Instances of voting interference or fraud

[Dashinka 24,956]

3 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

If the left will stay out of energy and let the market do what it’s doing (it’s nicely moving towards renewables) and will stay out of gun cabinets and the right will stay out of people’s bedrooms that would be a good start

Do you really expect this to happen?  Isn’t Beto slated to be gun Czar?

[Nitas_man 3,100]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Do you really expect this to happen?  Isn’t Beto slated to be gun Czar?

I dont have the slightest concern about this happening

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Do you really expect this to happen?  Isn’t Beto slated to be gun Czar?

The only thing worse than this is Robert Francis the burger czar. 

 

 

Or Robert Francis the tire czar:

 

 

 

Rather than Trump challenging ballots he should be demanding Beto prove he's a human from Earth. Haven't seen someone try so hard to look like a normal human since "David" in AI. 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

 

 

2 hours ago - Politics & Policy

Scoop: Inside Trump's legal warfare

Alayna Treene, author of Sneak Peek

 

 

 

 

Trump supporters gather to protest the election results at the Maricopa County Elections Department, Phoenix, Arizona, Nov. 6. Photo: Courtney Pedroza/Getty Images

President Trump plans to brandish obituaries of people who supposedly voted but are dead — plus hold campaign-style rallies — in an effort to prolong his fight against apparent insurmountable election results, four Trump advisers told me during a conference call this afternoon.

What we're hearing: Obits for those who cast ballots are part of the "specific pieces of evidence" aimed at bolstering the Trump team's so-far unsupported claims of widespread voter fraud and corruption that they say led to Joe Biden’s victory

 

 

https://www.axios.com/trump-legal-strategy-fraud-45ab43eb-c5bd-4710-a227-0dceacebb511.html

[laylalex 7,300]

Not cool: https://thehill.com/homenews/525075-republican-philadelphia-official-responsible-for-vote-counting-says-office-getting

Quote

 

Schmidt revealed in recent days, there have been "calls to our offices, reminding us that this is what the Second Amendment is for. People like us." 

"That's it that's-- a not so veiled death threat," "60 Minutes" reporter Bill Whitaker said.

"Yes, for counting votes in a democracy," Schmidt replied.

 

 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

That's not a threat at all, Dr. Suzanna Hupp said it right to the faces of people in Congress (at the end). And it's true. Spoiler alert, she wasn't arrested for making threats.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Steeleballz 7,550]

9 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Not cool: https://thehill.com/homenews/525075-republican-philadelphia-official-responsible-for-vote-counting-says-office-getting

 

 

    Trump is going to drag this out till the bitter end and, as always, ferment discord all the way. He's still tweeting that he won and the election was stolen. Just like with Covid, he doesn't care if people get hurt or die. It's always about him. 

[OriZ 3,157]

On 11/7/2020 at 9:48 PM, Steeleballz said:

 

  Don't they typically use second digit Benford analysis for elections? I am curious why he chose first digit, giving the issues they have seen with election data in the past.

 

 

Not sure, do they?

[Prizm123 1,086]

2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Trump is going to drag this out till the bitter end and, as always, ferment discord all the way. He's still tweeting that he won and the election was stolen. Just like with Covid, he doesn't care if people get hurt or die. It's always about him. 

the only solace is that he is a coward and is afraid of real confrontation. he will back down eventually. he doesnt have the stones to go full dictator

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 minutes ago, Prizm123 said:

the only solace is that he is a coward and is afraid of real confrontation. he will back down eventually. he doesnt have the stones to go full dictator

 

  I don't think he is going to try that. He is trying to keep public opinion stirred up to pressure the election officials and the courts. He won't concede, but he will eventually run out of options.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

6 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Not sure, do they?

 

  Most of the data I browsed indicates they have had some luck with second digit analysis, but not much success using first digit. 

[laylalex 7,300]

11 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Trump is going to drag this out till the bitter end and, as always, ferment discord all the way. He's still tweeting that he won and the election was stolen. Just like with Covid, he doesn't care if people get hurt or die. It's always about him. 

My husband grew up shooting with long guns. He enjoys shooting for sport and I have agreed I will allow a rifle in my home in a gun safe when he is eligible to buy one in this state. This was a massive concession I made -- it goes against very strong personal beliefs I hold. Personal beliefs -- I do not hold others to them. But he is very disturbed right now by some of the rhetoric he is hearing about "exercising Second Amendment rights." I grew up in America, he did not (obviously), and I am used to what is usually just hyperbolic ranting. He is worried enough that he is concerned about my safety just walking or driving around right now. I explained I'm fine, nothing's going to happen to me, but he's terrified of some lunatic deciding he's going to wave around a gun in pursuit of his "rights" and I'll get caught in the crossfire. Honestly, at one point today I thought he was going to punch a hole in the wall he was so angry at this thought. Note -- I do not live in an area with much gun violence,

 

His answer is not to insist I get a gun, which I would not do anyway. His answer is to let himself realize that this is the society we unfortunately live in right now, and to let the heat dim, not make it rise. He raised the other day for the first time in a while the idea of eventually moving back to the UK, which I am not keen on. But if he isn't comfortable here, I have to respect that, too. 

 

What I believe is that calling election officials on the phone and threatening to shoot them is not acceptable in a civil society. Period. I do not know why this is a controversial point of view.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,386]

56 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Trump is going to drag this out till the bitter end and, as always, ferment discord all the way. He's still tweeting that he won and the election was stolen. Just like with Covid, he doesn't care if people get hurt or die. It's always about him. 

In this one instance I cant blame him for holding out a few days. Remember Gore called to concede and then called back to un concede 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

23 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

In this one instance I cant blame him for holding out a few days. Remember Gore called to concede and then called back to un concede 

 

  I don't mind that part. He can ask for recounts in every state and then sue every state after that until he's convinced. There are venues that exist for that.

 

  Just stop tweeting about fraud and stolen elections and "stop the counts". Those words are not going to change anything with regards to the election, and they are not going to help his case. All they are going to do is make people who are already upset liable to do all kinds of stupid things because they start believing the BS. 

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

32 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

In this one instance I cant blame him for holding out a few days. Remember Gore called to concede and then called back to un concede 

True but if you are claiming fraud, you better be able to show it. My bet is the enterprise will fold like a cheap suit  early in the week.

Edited November 9, 2020 by CanAm1980