How can I report birth of US Citzen abroad when the Embassies are not taking CRBAs?

[kankerot 0]

I live in the UK and just before the virus struck and everything was locked down we were planning to register our youngest child as a US Citizen in the Embassy in London.

 

My wife is  a US Citizen and my two other chldren already have their US passports.

 

So how can I register the birth of my child and confirm their citizenship? What other options are there? Can we travel to the US to do it in DC?

[JFH 12,190]

London embassy has resumed all US citizen services, including issuing CRBAs. 
 

https://uk.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/

 

How do you plan to get the child to the US to register the birth here with no passport for the baby? You need the CRBA to get a passport for him/her. 

*~*~*moved from “DCF” to “CRBAs”*~*~*

[kankerot 0]

1 minute ago, JFH said:

London embassy has resumed all US citizen services, including issuing CRBAs. 
 

https://uk.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/

 

How do you plan to get the child to the US to register the birth here with no passport for the baby? You need the CRBA to get a passport for him/her. 

 

They have not resumed CRBAs? I have been on the website daily and they never have appt available. Always booked up. The message on their telephone says to only call if you are travelling within 2 days.

 

My child has a UK passport.

Edited September 21, 2020 by kankerot

[JFH 12,190]

1 minute ago, kankerot said:

 

They have not resumed CRBAs. I have been on the website daily and they never have appt available. Always booked up. The message on their telephone says to only call if you are travelling within 2 days.

 

My child has a UK passport.

A USC (even a dual national) must enter the US with their US passport. Your child cannot use the British passport to travel to the US. 
 

Did you read the link I posted? It says if appointments are not available you have to keep checking each day for newly released appointments and cancellations. They will not give you an appointment over the phone so you are wasting your time even calling. You have to keep checking the website for an appointment. 

[kankerot 0]

Just now, JFH said:

A USC (even a dual national) must enter the US with their US passport. Your child cannot use the British passport to travel to the US. 
 

Did you read the link I posted? It says if appointments are not available you have to keep checking each day for newly released appointments and cancellations. They will not give you an appointment over the phone so you are wasting your time even calling. You have to keep checking the website for an appointment. 

We have already travelled to the US twice on his UK passport.

 

I think my other children travelled twice on their UK passports before they were issued their US passports. They were 3 and 2 yrs old when I had their US passports issued.

[JFH 12,190]

1 minute ago, kankerot said:

We have already travelled to the US twice on his UK passport.

 

I think my other children travelled twice on their UK passports before they were issued their US passports. They were 3 and 2 yrs old when I had their US passports issued.

Then you not only lied on their ESTA applications (assuming you used the VWP) or visa application (if they entered with a visa) concerning their other nationalities but you were lucky you weren’t pulled up about it at the border. Just because you got away with it once it twice, doesn’t mean it’s legal. A visa or ESTA application cannot be approved for someone who holds US citizenship. 
 

I would check the London embassy website at the very start of each business day and then several times through the day to see if appointments have become available. 
 

 

[kankerot 0]

51 minutes ago, JFH said:

Then you not only lied on their ESTA applications (assuming you used the VWP) or visa application (if they entered with a visa) concerning their other nationalities but you were lucky you weren’t pulled up about it at the border. Just because you got away with it once it twice, doesn’t mean it’s legal. A visa or ESTA application cannot be approved for someone who holds US citizenship. 
 

I would check the London embassy website at the very start of each business day and then several times through the day to see if appointments have become available. 
 

 

Until we actually process the application my son isn't a US citizen unless the embassy confirms it. We have to claim the citizenship - it is not given automatically.

 

At the time he wasn't a US citizen as it wasn't confirmed? What happens if they reject the application. That means if I claimed he was a US citizen on the Esta that would have been false. Also you are not obliged to get the CRBA immediately.

 

The question on the ESTA is

 

Are you now, a citizen or national of any other country?

 

With the next question - how did you acquire it - well at the time of travel he had not acquired it.

Edited September 21, 2020 by kankerot

[Mollie09 1,543]

9 hours ago, kankerot said:

Until we actually process the application my son isn't a US citizen unless the embassy confirms it. We have to claim the citizenship - it is not given automatically.

 

At the time he wasn't a US citizen as it wasn't confirmed? What happens if they reject the application. That means if I claimed he was a US citizen on the Esta that would have been false. Also you are not obliged to get the CRBA immediately.

 

The question on the ESTA is

 

Are you now, a citizen or national of any other country?

 

With the next question - how did you acquire it - well at the time of travel he had not acquired it.

Your son is a US citizen and has been since birth whether or not he claims it:

"The Department only issues CRBAs to children born abroad who acquired U.S. citizenship or nationality at birth and, in general, are under the age of 18 at the time of the application."

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html

[kankerot 0]

8 hours ago, Mollie09 said:

Your son is a US citizen and has been since birth whether or not he claims it:

"The Department only issues CRBAs to children born abroad who acquired U.S. citizenship or nationality at birth and, in general, are under the age of 18 at the time of the application."

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/while-abroad/birth-abroad.html

So will it cause an issue when we apply for it because he has travelled to the US on his British Passport?

[Mollie09 1,543]

3 hours ago, kankerot said:

So will it cause an issue when we apply for it because he has travelled to the US on his British Passport?

Realistically? No. You're not the first person to do this nor will you be the last, it's not a huge deal. But it's good to be aware of the intricacies in case you find a CBP officer who decides to take issue.

And if you plan on traveling to the US, it's good to know that the best option is always to get the passport if possible. It complicates things if you make it to the US and decide to apply for the passport here without the CRBA, because a foreign birth certificate without a CRBA is considered secondary evidence for citizenship (https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply/citizenship-evidence.html) and you always want to go with primary if at all possible. And on top of that you'll have to explain entering without the US passport which, again, not the worst thing in the world but not ideal.

[kankerot 0]

4 hours ago, Mollie09 said:

Realistically? No. You're not the first person to do this nor will you be the last, it's not a huge deal. But it's good to be aware of the intricacies in case you find a CBP officer who decides to take issue.

And if you plan on traveling to the US, it's good to know that the best option is always to get the passport if possible. It complicates things if you make it to the US and decide to apply for the passport here without the CRBA, because a foreign birth certificate without a CRBA is considered secondary evidence for citizenship (https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply/citizenship-evidence.html) and you always want to go with primary if at all possible. And on top of that you'll have to explain entering without the US passport which, again, not the worst thing in the world but not ideal.

 

What I meant to ask is. Will it be an issue when we apply for the CRBA that he has travelled on his British Passport to the US? 

 

We don't intend to travel until next year so we have ample time to get his CRBA if we can find an appointment slot.

[Mollie09 1,543]

48 minutes ago, kankerot said:

 

What I meant to ask is. Will it be an issue when we apply for the CRBA that he has travelled on his British Passport to the US? 

 

We don't intend to travel until next year so we have ample time to get his CRBA if we can find an appointment slot.

 

Unlikely, but it could come up. Wouldn't prevent him from getting a passport, might lead to some questions.

[kankerot 0]

On 9/21/2020 at 2:54 PM, JFH said:

London embassy has resumed all US citizen services, including issuing CRBAs. 
 

https://uk.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/

 

How do you plan to get the child to the US to register the birth here with no passport for the baby? You need the CRBA to get a passport for him/her. 

*~*~*moved from “DCF” to “CRBAs”*~*~*

 

I have been on the website everyday for weeks and they are always booked up. You can't call them as they won't book over the phone. It's a joke.

[txdoc 35]

I've been looking everyday since the beginning of August, and nothing. They say it goes up on 2pm on Friday's and Wednesdays, but I've never seen anything come up. 

[rrrrrr 6]

Guys I have a question about tax filing if citizen is living out of country plz tell me and I m not working to I need to pay tax ?