‘Covid-19 made in Wuhan lab controlled by China govt’, claims virologist, offers evidence

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, yuna628 said:

I am not open to a suggestion that it is a modified (engineered partially or entirely) virus or a bioweapon. Could it have been collected, identified, studied, and escaped from a lab by accident? Perhaps, but I'm not willing to entirely bite on that theory either. 

You were doing really well right up until this point.  The fact that your mind is closed means meaningful discourse isn't really an option with you.  Personally, I believe in looking at all options.   And it's been my observations in my short lifespan that there exist some truly evil people who will try and do some really wicked things in this world.

 

I guess we shall see in time where covid 19 actually originated from.  For me, I think the claim of a wet market is purely CCP BS.

[yuna628 9,700]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

You were doing really well right up until this point.  The fact that your mind is closed means meaningful discourse isn't really an option with you.  Personally, I believe in looking at all options.   And it's been my observations in my short lifespan that there exist some truly evil people who will try and do some really wicked things in this world.

 

I guess we shall see in time where covid 19 actually originated from.  For me, I think the claim of a wet market is purely CCP BS.

Is discussing conspiracy theories as fact really a meaningful discourse though? Personally life is too short to entertain nonsense.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

16 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Is discussing conspiracy theories as fact really a meaningful discourse though? Personally life is too short to entertain nonsense.

ALL theories start out as conspiracy ones... until they aren't any longer.

[TBoneTX 45,956]

Something caused this young virologist to quite genuinely risk her life by speaking out.

[yuna628 9,700]

6 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Something caused this young virologist to quite genuinely risk her life by speaking out.

Money and 15 minutes of fame is usually a motivator.

[Dashinka 24,736]

2 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Money and 15 minutes of fame is usually a motivator.

For being watched by the CCP for the rest of one’s life?

 

On 9/18/2020 at 8:26 PM, yuna628 said:

Is discussing conspiracy theories as fact really a meaningful discourse though? Personally life is too short to entertain nonsense.

Considering that this story makes the CCP look bad and it has tentacles in many of the various social media sites that are now discrediting her what are we to expect.  There was another thread about a whistleblower at an immigration detention facility with just as outrageous a story, yet this person gets the benefit of the doubt.  I suppose that whistleblower was also out for their 15 minutes of fame.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

For being watched by the CCP for the rest of one’s life?

 

 

   Don't you feel worse for the co-authors? None of them has ever published anything before, and they don't have the support of Bannon behind them. Presumably they are still stuck in China.

 

   Maybe the best we can hope for them is that they are fictitious. That would fit with many other aspects of the report.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Money and 15 minutes of fame is usually a motivator.

Usually, I'd agree.  But I seriously doubt it in her case.  Her life is now in serious danger if she is telling the truth.  And if she's making it up, actually.  Typically death is not a motivator.

[Dashinka 24,736]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Don't you feel worse for the co-authors? None of them has ever published anything before, and they don't have the support of Bannon behind them. Presumably they are still stuck in China.

 

   Maybe the best we can hope for them is that they are fictitious. That would fit with many other aspects of the report.

So she should have stayed silent?  

[Steeleballz 7,550]

35 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So she should have stayed silent?  

 

  Maybe publish a report on how the earth is flat and being covered up. Just as much evidence for that and just as many people would believe it. All the hype with none of the risk. Everyone wins.

[Dashinka 24,736]

51 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Maybe publish a report on how the earth is flat and being covered up. Just as much evidence for that and just as many people would believe it. All the hype with none of the risk. Everyone wins.

Not sure everyone wins with the CCP watching.

[laylalex 7,300]

Good article in National Geographic discussing the report, well-sourced with plenty of quotes. Unfortunately the scientists behind the report have failed to respond to requests for comment. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/09/coronavirus-origins-misinformation-yan-report-fact-check-cvd/#close

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Second paper:

 

https://zenodo.org/record/4073131#.X38hRTlMG7o

 

Will be looking through it later. 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

 

   Nothing new science wise. The second paper repeats everything in the first paper but with a new title and additional accusations. 

[Dashinka 24,736]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Nothing new science wise. The second paper repeats everything in the first paper but with a new title and additional accusations. 

Kind of like the editorial in the NEJM.