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1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Yep sit down with Joe Rogan and have them both talk about the issues at hand without commercial breaks. Bernie, Tulsi, and Yang sat down with him and talked at length about serious issues. The other candidates didn't get to do it because HE (Joe Rogan) didn't want them to come in. 

 

Do you know anything about Joe or his platform?
 

 

I don't. ☹️ I see his name a lot but I don't know a lot about him other than he does radio and is popular. 

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21 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

I don't. ☹️ I see his name a lot but I don't know a lot about him other than he does radio and is popular. 

He is a Lefty that loves to shoot guns and eat meat. So he has on many people from different backgrounds and they discuss a wide range of topics. He is personified as "everyday Joe" because he has views that differ on many things but is usually a Democratic leaning person. He gets a lot of flak on the Left though for having people on like Alex Jones, Dan Crenshaw, Jordan Peterson. So they give him flak because he is "platforming people of hate" even though he has said repeatedly that he voted for Bernie. 

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3 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

He is a Lefty that loves to shoot guns and eat meat. So he has on many people from different backgrounds and they discuss a wide range of topics. He is personified as "everyday Joe" because he has views that differ on many things but is usually a Democratic leaning person. He gets a lot of flak on the Left though for having people on like Alex Jones, Dan Crenshaw, Jordan Peterson. So they give him flak because he is "platforming people of hate" even though he has said repeatedly that he voted for Bernie. 

Funny, I'm old enough to remember when the left considered right wing efforts to rid the internet of the anarchist's cookbook to be censorship. Rightfully, I agreed with them. Fast forward a mere 15-20 years and now the left have no room for people they disagree with on the internet, including conspiracy nuts that are easy as hell to ignore. They take it so far where they largely spend their time on the internet finding things to get offended by and the mental gymnastics is so convoluted one can't even talk to someone that doesn't have approved views, or invoke some six degrees of separation level nonsense (that person talked to a person that was seen in a photo with another person who retweeted this conspiracy nut!) to justify "no-platforming" someone. Things have gone completely stupid and upside down.

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17 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

I'll take you up on your offer, any links would be appreciated.

Well, that capitalization should have flagged to you that I was being facetious. There are any number of people who have claimed over the past four years that Trump is in severe mental decline, that he's "sundowning," he rambles on incoherently, can't walk down stairs, has to use two hands to drink a glass of water, gets confused on which direction to walk, and on and on. Unless you have been living on the Mongolian Steppe with no access to the internet, I don't know how anyone could have missed these pronouncements. 

 

But I am not a doctor, and I suspect you are not, either. More importantly, none of us are Biden or Trump's doctor. We are not qualified to make diagnoses for these men. We can say what we think we see, but we do so at a remove, through various lenses, some of which are clearly partisan, some not, some hiding their partisanship more effectively. We have our biases and prejudices. When I see Biden stumble, I see a man who has a serious, lifelong speech impediment. He slows himself down to prevent stuttering. Recordings of Biden over the years show him doing this again and again. I highly doubt you will agree with me, and that's okay. I am going on my perception, and what I have read about his stutter, and what others with speech impediments have said about how they work to control their own. Your perception says something different to you.

 

And when I see Trump, no, hear Trump, I hear a man whose speech patterns are sometimes rambling, who sounds confused at times, who speaks in run on sentences that begin on one topic and end on another altogether. And I also sometimes hear and see a man who is functioning just fine. I tend to think Trump sounds like he's doing just fine when there is no audience, like on the Woodward tapes. I do not think you will agree with me, and that's okay.

 

The likelihood of either of us convincing the other of our individual points of view is low -- were I to provide link after link of incidents, you could still say, yeah, don't see it. Which goes back to my greater point: we are not qualified to say this one or that one is suffering from mental decline. Nor any of the people saying "he's just like Grandpa Wilbur in his last years, so sad." We have only our biased perceptions -- we see what we wish to see. 

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I am not a doctor....I am a retired Registered Nurse with a background in adult Psych.  I see  troubling signs when I see Biden speak..... not so much when Trump speaks....just my opinion based on experience.

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55 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

I am not a doctor....I am a retired Registered Nurse with a background in adult Psych.  I see  troubling signs when I see Biden speak..... not so much when Trump speaks....just my opinion based on experience.

Could you be more specific? 

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Wherever they go, US Presidents are accompanied by a military aide carrying the launch codes for Nuclear weapons, should the President need to use them, and yet we don't require a mental screenings for the Presidency?   

Giving Biden the launch codes is like giving a child a book of matches and a stick of dynamite. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, nykolos said:

Wherever they go, US Presidents are accompanied by a military aide carrying the launch codes for Nuclear weapons, should the President need to use them, and yet we don't require a mental screenings for the Presidency?   

Giving Biden the launch codes is like giving a child a book of matches and a stick of dynamite. 

 

 

And that doesn't apply to Trump and every other candidate?

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37 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

And that doesn't apply to Trump and every other candidate?

My point is that it should apply,  not only to the Presidency but to every member of the House and Senate, and all 9 Justices of the Supreme court... But of course that will never happen, it would be like asking Congress to pass term limits or to vote themselves a pay cut.

 

As for Trump and Biden, if the voting public demanded that both undergo a mental evaluation, who do you think would give the most resistance?  honestly.

 

 

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7 hours ago, laylalex said:

when I see Trump, no, hear Trump, I hear a man whose speech patterns are sometimes rambling, who sounds confused at times, who speaks in run on sentences that begin on one topic and end on another altogether.

Some of this is perhaps because he's from Queens.

1 hour ago, nykolos said:

As for Trump and Biden, if the voting public demanded that both undergo a mental evaluation, who do you think would give the most resistance?

Regarding Biden, it would be the Democrats in elective office, the Democratic National Committee, and the legacy media.

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11 hours ago, laylalex said:

There are any number of people who have claimed over the past four years that Trump is in severe mental decline, that he's "sundowning," he rambles on incoherently, can't walk down stairs, has to use two hands to drink a glass of water, gets confused on which direction to walk, and on and on.

Correction;

 

"There are left leaning media outlets who have claimed over the past four years that Trump is in severe mental decline, that he's "sundowning," he rambles on incoherently, can't walk down stairs, has to use two hands to drink a glass of water, gets confused on which direction to walk, and on and on."

 

As for Trump using 2 hands to drink a glass of water, the MS media conveniently left out the "Fact" that Trump saluted 1000 West Point Graduates shortly before taking that drink of water,  If that were Biden, he would have likely given up after 50 salutes and needed to be carted off in a gurney. 

 

CNN and MSNBC deal in "Facts" all right, Facts that support their bias anti Trump narrative.

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

And that doesn't apply to Trump and every other candidate?

Hasn't Trump already taken a cognitive test that measures early signs of dementia?

 

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Hasn't Trump already taken a cognitive test that measures early signs of dementia?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/21/donald-trump-cognitive-test-closer-look 

Yes, he did.....I would bet that Biden has also been evaluated recently.....but I seriously doubt we will hear about his results.

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