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45 minutes ago, Surrey19 said:

See AstoriaAoS' post above. I ended up getting married between 30 and 60 days after my entry during that period and nobody cared and nobody asked or scrutinized. It's not a rule or regulation. There's also a search bar on this site that will produce many threads explaining this.

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3 hours ago, Surrey19 said:

Where your petition gets routed to depends on what state the petitioner lives in and there are four possibilities

Clearly you have no concept of immigration.  The Service Center has nothing to do where the petitioner lives regarding an I-130.

 

2 hours ago, Surrey19 said:

Department of State issues visas.  USCIS does not.  One department can not dictate what other department does.  Again you have no concept of US administrative law.

 

Let's just say for the point of your 30/60/90 day argument that you do enter the US.  When the agent asks you "Why are are visiting the US?" I take it that you have no intention of telling them the truth that your are entering the US to get married and adjust.  You wouldn't tell them that because you know it it illegal.  So you lie and say to visit your friend / finance / whatever.  Then you marry and AOS, (1 day or 180 days later) and USCIS pulls the I-94 and looks at the video of you telling the agent you are just here to visit.  Then you are going to be explaining.  The 90 days doesn't apply to what the USCIS can look at.  You will be disclosing your social media handles at some point.  That includes this site.  And guess what you have already made a pretty clear intentions to not follow the law let alone the advice you have received.  Neither of these options are going to work for.   Your friend can file for a fiance or spousal visa.  

 

And for those that do an adjustment based upon proper intent, their lives aren't very easy.  They cant work or travel internationally for many months, sometime even a year.

 

 

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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@Surrey19 You either don't know what's in your own best interest, or you're just trolling. Either way, you got really good pieces of advice - it's up to you what you do with it. 

"Life is a journey." At this moment, it's taking me to the USA to the woman I love.

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4 hours ago, Surrey19 said:

Where your petition gets routed to depends on what state the petitioner lives in and there are four possibilities

News to me...pretty sure there are thousands of cases on VJ that would demonstrate otherwise.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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6 hours ago, Surrey19 said:

Where your petition gets routed to depends on what state the petitioner lives in and there are four possibilities

Check it it used to be 30 day’s and then 60 and now 90 days 

This is getting silly. If you prefer your cowboy sites then use them. You are misinformed and outdated with your information. Service centers are no longer allocated based on petitioner residency anymore.

 

Anyways. I will no longer respond back. All the information you are looking for is on this site if you bothered to look instead or on the appropriate sites. Since you prefer non official sites that seem to work with whatever angle you are aiming for.. good luck with your journey.. you're going to need it.

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Came to the country with every intention to return On a tourist visa. Even had a pending i130. Due to covid and extended border closures and the uncertainty of everything we had to file for an AOS. Talked to a lawyer and even she said it makes sense in our case. As 90% of my clothes are still in my country, and I had to cancel my apartment after I came... tons of evidence that I had every intention of going back.

 

point being that there are some cases you can file AOS from tourist visa! 

 

 

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5 hours ago, INF said:

Came to the country with every intention to return On a tourist visa. Even had a pending i130. Due to covid and extended border closures and the uncertainty of everything we had to file for an AOS. Talked to a lawyer and even she said it makes sense in our case. As 90% of my clothes are still in my country, and I had to cancel my apartment after I came... tons of evidence that I had every intention of going back.

 

point being that there are some cases you can file AOS from tourist visa! 

 

 

This is irrelevant for op. Intent is determined upon entry, at the border. As you just mentioned you did not have immigration intent. Op has clearly stated that they have immigration intent, hence this is an entirely different case than yours. 

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8 hours ago, geowrian said:

News to me...pretty sure there are thousands of cases on VJ that would demonstrate otherwise.

Regional assignment occurred 15 years ago but times have changed.   OPs other information is likely similarly out of date.

YMMV

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17 hours ago, Surrey19 said:

Ok I thought it was legal as most people do it so CR1 is the solution .is it true it is taking 18 month to process 

Most people? Nah, most people go the legal and correct route for their situation. Even if that involves considerable time apart. I’ve been on this forum for many years now (I’m almost at the end of the citizenship process) and I’ve yet to see of a case where anyone has died due to being apart.
 

Don’t pay attention to other people’s processing times. When I started this journey CR-1s were taking over a year to process. That was back in the days before online form submission. Everything had to go by mail back and forth. So it took generally longer. But my case was completed in 10 months and 1 day from sending the I-130 to having my interview at the embassy. Every case is different. Preparation and organization are the key. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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14 hours ago, Surrey19 said:

Where your petition gets routed to depends on what state the petitioner lives in and there are four possibilities

Check it it used to be 30 day’s and then 60 and now 90 days 

You really should study the process.  You made several inaccurate statements........

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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*** One post removed for advocating fraud. AOS should only be an option if the beneficiary is already in the US.

 

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“When starting an immigration journey, the best advice is to understand that sacrifices have to be made... whether it is time, money, or separation; or a combination of all.” - Unlockable

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1 hour ago, jules98 said:

This is irrelevant for op. Intent is determined upon entry, at the border. As you just mentioned you did not have immigration intent. Op has clearly stated that they have immigration intent, hence this is an entirely different case than yours. 

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Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Ah, I've missed topics where OP can't stand the truth and gets snippy about it. 

 

CR-1 would really be your best option if you are still residing outside of the United States. You, or your significant other, can travel here on the existing tourist visa, marry, and then return home to start the process. Using the tourist visa to enter the US with intending to stay is considered fraud, so no recommendation on that one. 

 

Overall, lots of people have given you good advice, It's just up to you if you want to do it the legal or less legal way. 

01/13/2016: I-129F filed  07/15/2016: K-1 visa in hand
10/13/2016: Filed AOS + EAD/AP.   07/07/2017: Permanent resident (Conditional)
04/16/2019: Filed ROC  11/17/2020: Approved. (10 yr GC)

 

Naturalization                                                        
09/02/2020: Filed (Online)    09/08/2020: NOA1: (NBC
10/22/2020: Biometrics Reuse Notice.  12/22/2020: Online Status Changed to Interview Was Scheduled.  
01/29/2021: N-400 Interview - PASSED! 01/29/2021: Same-day oath ceremony.  

'Merica. 

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***Thread closed to additional discussion; do not restart this thread or refer to it in future discussions.***

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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