USCIS launches SAVE feature today

[jskibo 588]

Happy they are finally holding people accountable for their actions. 

[travusb 69]

I feel like the better approach would be to stop leechers that are abusing the system than to stop people that need help from getting help.

[USAjune2016 101]

5 minutes ago, travusb said:

Don't immigrants that move here and start working pay taxes for the programs that they are not allowed to us? 

If they are tax payers then why are they not allowed to use a program they are paying into?

 

 Seems like a bad system that allows one tax payer to receive a benefit another tax payer legally can't use.

Of course you’re right. It’s like you pay an insurance premium but if an accident happens the insurance company won’t  cover you.  

[Divided States 33]

No wonder 

1 minute ago, travusb said:

I feel like the better approach would be to stop leechers that are abusing the system than to stop people that need help from getting help.

Just a thought about they would go in full force after shoeless immigrants rather than big tech company likes Amazon which has a record of paying zero tax to the federal makes me sick.

[USAjune2016 101]

3 minutes ago, travusb said:

I feel like the better approach would be to stop leechers that are abusing the system than to stop people that need help from getting help.

Of course, tons of US citizens are on disability for fake reasons or on unemployment but working under the table... in addition to the healthcare system corruption... but they can only target the weak communities.

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

33 minutes ago, USAjune2016 said:

That’s why you support this SAVE because you already sponsored who you want and now you don’t care about others , you already got what you want, right?

I think you’re not well informed , I’m not saying that we should be able to bring someone here and give them free money that was never what I meant. They are making it impossible to even petition someone. People are trying to petition their parents and they are saying it’s impossible now to pass the new application in place. This is a slap of every immigrant in this country. Look up and read what’s happening! 

Based on this and previous posts you seem to be the one uninformed. You need to look at facts and not others opinions and put your opinion aside to review the facts. US citizens can petition family members much easier than the majority of the rest of the world can. Immigration anywhere is not a right it is a privilege that comes with stipulations such as the petitioner making sure they immigrant can supported by the petitioner, not the entire US population.  Yes, it will be harder for some than others to bring certain family members here. But again, why should I have to support someone you CHOSE to bring to this country? Should there be no requirements for immigration and whomever wants to come to the US is entitled? I mean there has to be guidelines to follow and not everyone will like them but you will never find 100% consensus for anything in life. 

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

24 minutes ago, USAjune2016 said:

Of course, tons of US citizens are on disability for fake reasons or on unemployment but working under the table... in addition to the healthcare system corruption... but they can only target the weak communities.

Based on your thinking then you'd be fine with "tons of US citizens" AND tons of immigrants on disability for fake reasons. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. Immigration isn't perfect, nothing in life is perfect but people need to be held accountable. Don't sign a contact if you aren't willing to agree to the terms of it. You have no one to blame but yourself. 

May I ask why did you and your spouse decide NOT to immigrate to Lebanon?

Edited September 10, 2020 by Luckycuds

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1 hour ago, USAjune2016 said:

 This is not relevant because If you’re petitioning someone it’s required that you sponsor them or their application will be denied. If you like it or not you’d have to sign it I don’t know what you find wrong in this. 

You are out of your line.

[travusb 69]

15 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

Based on your thinking then you'd be fine with "tons of US citizens" AND tons of immigrants on disability for fake reasons. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. Immigration isn't perfect, nothing in life is perfect but people need to be held accountable. Don't sign a contact if you aren't willing to agree to the terms of it. You have no one to blame but yourself. 

May I ask why did you and your spouse decide NOT to immigrate to Lebanon?

I think you're reading their statement incorrectly. They were responding to my post of "I feel like the better approach would be to stop leechers that are abusing the system than to stop people that need help from getting help."  and he was agreeing with me on who we could get to stop using the system to pay for others that might need it temporarily.

 

I think that yes you need to prove that you can currently support the partner you bring over. I don't mind providing my income and making sure it's at a sufficient level to support everyone I bring to this country.

That said, if something happens and we both lost our jobs and we need support temperately it'd be nice to be able to use the systems I've been paying into my whole working life. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by travusb

[Divided States 33]

13 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

Based on your thinking then you'd be fine with "tons of US citizens" AND tons of immigrants on disability for fake reasons. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. Immigration isn't perfect, nothing in life is perfect but people need to be held accountable. Don't sign a contact if you aren't willing to agree to the terms of it. You have no one to blame but yourself. 

May I ask why did you and your spouse decide NOT to immigrate to Lebanon?

Why not both move to the immigrant country, is this your favorite sarcasm question? I don’t know whatever the reason is but i guess it’s the same as when you chose USA over HAITI. FAIR!

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

4 minutes ago, travusb said:

I think you're reading their statement incorrectly. They were responding to my post of "I feel like the better approach would be to stop leechers that are abusing the system than to stop people that need help from getting help."  and he was agreeing with me on who we could get to stop using the system to pay for others that might need it temporarily.

 

I think that yes you need to prove that you can currently support the partner you bring over. I don't mind providing my income and making sure it's at a sufficient level to support everyone I bring to this country.

That said, if something happens and we both lost our jobs and we need support temperately it'd be nice to be able to use the systems I've been paying into my whole working life. 

OP should have quoted you if he was referring to your post. The thing is in your scenario if you are the American, you CAN use public benefits! And if you are the immigrant and paid into the system your whole working life I would have to question why you chose to never become an American. Because if you did... you could get public benefits as well. 

[travusb 69]

1 minute ago, Luckycuds said:

OP should have quoted you if he was referring to your post. The thing is in your scenario if you are the American, you CAN use public benefits! And if you are the immigrant and paid into the system your whole working life I would have to question why you chose to never become an American. Because if you did... you could get public benefits as well. 

Well they did but I think you missed it. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by travusb

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

5 minutes ago, Divided States said:

Why not both move to the immigrant country, is this your favorite sarcasm question? I don’t know whatever the reason is but i guess it’s the same as when you chose USA over HAITI. FAIR!

Have you seen me mention this one before? Because pretty sure this is the first time. I'm not the one complaining about sponsoring an immigrant in the US am I? So I have to ask the OP why in his situation they chose to not immigrate to Lebanon.  I have no problem supporting my husband. I chose an education and a career and with those 2 things I can "afford" to sponsor him. 

[USAjune2016 101]

1 hour ago, Luckycuds said:

Based on your thinking then you'd be fine with "tons of US citizens" AND tons of immigrants on disability for fake reasons. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. Immigration isn't perfect, nothing in life is perfect but people need to be held accountable. Don't sign a contact if you aren't willing to agree to the terms of it. You have no one to blame but yourself. 

May I ask why did you and your spouse decide NOT to immigrate to Lebanon?

We don’t want to go back to Where I came from because this country need us the immigrants. Who kept the US running during the pandemic? Essential workers right? A lot of the nurses, restaurant workers, the people that pick up your trash, transporters, truck drivers... are immigrants. Without them the economy would have collapsed. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by USAjune2016

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

8 minutes ago, USAjune2016 said:

We don’t want to go back to Where I came from because this country need us the immigrants. If the US needs immigrants that don't complain that they can't utilize pubic benefits. That defeats the whole purpose of bringing people in to this county who can self sustain. Who kept the US running during the pandemic? Essential workers right? A lot of the nurses, restaurant workers, the people that pick up your trash, transporters, truck drivers... are immigrants. Without them the economy would have Maybe collapsed. True. But they are working. Not collecting public benefits so I'm not sure how this helps your case?

No one in this post has been against immigration... we are on a DIY immigration site after all... but having a system in place that ensures people are compliant with federal laws.. to think there is something wrong with that would lead me to believe you think you were entitled to immigrate to the country...as would be anyone else who just "wants" to come here.