I-864 by Parent or Parent/s as joint sponsor. Include I864a?

[JeffinSeoul 0]

Hello, 

 

I am using my parents as a joint sponsor. They are both  retired and a household of 2 so need $27,150, with $33,000 of retirement income. To offer support does one parent need to fill-out the I-864 and the other one the I-864a? Or since they've always filed jointly do I just need one parent to complete the I-864?

 

Sorry, I find this really confusing. I'm not sure if the I-864a is only for the SPONSOR and not needed for married joint sponsors. 

Edited August 26, 2020 by JeffinSeoul

[pushbrk 13,181]

1 hour ago, JeffinSeoul said:

Hello, 

 

I am using my parents as a joint sponsor. They are both  retired and a household of 2 so need $27,150, with $33,000 of retirement income. To offer support does one parent need to fill-out the I-864 and the other one the I-864a? Or since they've always filed jointly do I just need one parent to complete the I-864?

 

Sorry, I find this really confusing. I'm not sure if the I-864a is only for the SPONSOR and not needed for married joint sponsors. 

You have it right. I-864 from one and I-864a from the other, BECAUSE they file taxes jointly.

 

Don't forget that YOU are the primary sponsor as petitioner and must provide your own I-864 whether you have any income or not.

 

$33,000 is marginal, particularly if your parents are elderly, as they may not be around to fulfil the obligation.  

[JeffinSeoul 0]

So what does “marginal” mean? I thought it was just a 125% threshold? My parents also have some  stocks and some other assets, but I understand they can’t use their house since they live In it. Are you saying to need to document above and beyond the %125? 
 

I'm moving back to the USA at the end of September after living overseas for years. I’ll turn in the I-864 as well as my tax returns, but they won’t be considered as that income will not continue. 
 

I’ll be returning with cash assets enough, to meet the 3x $21,150 for the Sponsor of a spouse, but it will be from severance pay and housing deposits, and would only be deposited in my account about a week before I left. A lawyer told that might be rejected for not being in my account long enough, and that once I had a joint sponsor it would be a moot point. 
 

I have to get all kinds of documents translated for my bank assets. Should I still do that? 
 

 

[pushbrk 13,181]

10 hours ago, JeffinSeoul said:

So what does “marginal” mean? I thought it was just a 125% threshold? My parents also have some  stocks and some other assets, but I understand they can’t use their house since they live In it. Are you saying to need to document above and beyond the %125? 
 

I'm moving back to the USA at the end of September after living overseas for years. I’ll turn in the I-864 as well as my tax returns, but they won’t be considered as that income will not continue. 
 

I’ll be returning with cash assets enough, to meet the 3x $21,150 for the Sponsor of a spouse, but it will be from severance pay and housing deposits, and would only be deposited in my account about a week before I left. A lawyer told that might be rejected for not being in my account long enough, and that once I had a joint sponsor it would be a moot point. 
 

I have to get all kinds of documents translated for my bank assets. Should I still do that? 
 

 

I wouldn't bother showing your assets if they must be translated.  Yes, show your parents' liquid assets and document them with a few statements.  It's ok to just use one page of the statement, as long as it shows names and beginning and ending balance.

 

Marginal means what it sounds like.  Just meeting the minimum requirement is not an assurance the Consular Officer will make the judgment call in your favor.  They are trained to consider the totality of circumstances, including whether elderly sponsors will even be around to fulfill their contractual obligations.  One thing you can do is have your spouse bring an updated I-864 package from you to the interview, showing your current US income etc.  That can make a big difference.  You are several months away from the interview normally, when you submit the AOS package to NVC.  With COVID, that's going to be an even longer gap.  Lots of things can change in your financial picture in the interim.