Is There Any Limit To What We'll Do To 'Stop Coronavirus'?

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

sToP sInGiNg cHuRcHeS!! 

 

Church bad, riot good! 

 

[Cheburashka34 228]

On 8/26/2020 at 5:47 AM, Neonred said:

I saw, in a recent interview, that Biden is willing to shut the country down again to control the virus.

Yes he also said something about trying to enforce everyone to wear masks. Yeah, that's gonna work

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

SIX PERCENT.

 

Our nation was sold down the tubes for 6%.  That is just sad.

[Dashinka 24,109]

11 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

SIX PERCENT.

 

Our nation was sold down the tubes for 6%.  That is just sad.

The interesting thing everyone seems to forget is that the overall death rate of humanity is 100%.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

17 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

SIX PERCENT.

 

Our nation was sold down the tubes for 6%.  That is just sad.

CDC Did Not ‘Admit Only 6%’ of Recorded Deaths from COVID-19

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/

 

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email.

 

So, it’s misleading to say that 94% of those who died with COVID-19 also had other ailments without explaining that the disease causes other serious illnesses

 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

CDC Did Not ‘Admit Only 6%’ of Recorded Deaths from COVID-19

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/

 

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email.

 

So, it’s misleading to say that 94% of those who died with COVID-19 also had other ailments without explaining that the disease causes other serious illnesses

 

 

 

  The problem is when someone mentions co-morbidities, we conjure up a mental image of someone in poor health barely able to get around. We imagine that only the very old or the very ill are at high risk. The truth is these co-morbidities are often relatively benign. Most of us over 50 have something going on, whether we know it or not. Sure some people have obvious signs of poor health, but many do not. Sixty percent of Americans are considered overweight or obese. Thirty percent have hypertension. They don't all have obvious health issues. I did a 100 mile bike ride last week with a guy who is diagnosed with both (overweight and hypertension), and he had no problems cycling hard for 6 hours. You wouldn't necessarily think he is at higher risk, but he is. I am too, being on the wrong side of 50. A lot more people are than think they are. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  The problem is when someone mentions co-morbidities, we conjure up a mental image of someone in poor health barely able to get around. We imagine that only the very old or the very ill are at high risk. The truth is these co-morbidities are often relatively benign. Most of us over 50 have something going on, whether we know it or not. Sure some people have obvious signs of poor health, but many do not. Sixty percent of Americans are considered overweight or obese. Thirty percent have hypertension. They don't all have obvious health issues. I did a 100 mile bike ride last week with a guy who is diagnosed with both (overweight and hypertension), and he had no problems cycling hard for 6 hours. You wouldn't necessarily think he is at higher risk, but he is. I am too, being on the wrong side of 50. A lot more people are than think they are. 

Kinda like if you have aids and die of Kaposi Sarcoma. Kaposi sarcoma killed you but aids caused it.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

CDC Did Not ‘Admit Only 6%’ of Recorded Deaths from COVID-19

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/

 

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email.

 

So, it’s misleading to say that 94% of those who died with COVID-19 also had other ailments without explaining that the disease causes other serious illnesses

 

 

You can believe all the BS spin put on it, or you can simply go to the CDC website which explains it clearly.  It is up to the individual as to what they are willing to accept.

 

It all comes down to politics and an election year.  The reality is that the mean age for covid deaths is 78.  And the mean death age for Americans is 78.5.  You do the math.  Or believe the MSM.  It's all a personal choice, at the end of the day.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

Edited September 3, 2020 by Voice of Reason

[Lemonslice 4,710]

Since so many Americans have preexisting conditions, few are safe(r) from these new stats anyway.

 

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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Since so many Americans have preexisting conditions, few are safe(r) from these new stats anyway.

 

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Obesity being chief among them.  

 

BLUF:  If you're at risk, avoid strangers.  If you're not at risk. avoid strangers.  Everything else about staying in quarantine is simply political BS.

[Lemonslice 4,710]

If nothing works, how do you explain the increased rate of deaths from Covid (or whatever is killing them) in the US vs other countries?

[Ban Hammer 13,109]

51 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Since so many Americans have preexisting conditions, few are safe(r) from these new stats anyway.

 

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a real marathon runner would outrun the bear........

[Dashinka 24,109]

11 hours ago, Lemonslice said:

If nothing works, how do you explain the increased rate of deaths from Covid (or whatever is killing them) in the US vs other countries?

The overall death rate from everything is higher this year and is outside the norm over the past 6.5 years and it is obvious why.  I tried to go back to the pandemic from the late 1960's to do a comparison, but I could not find that data.  The total deaths peaked at Week 15.  Note, the data is taken from NCHS.

 

Edited September 3, 2020 by Dashinka

[yuna628 9,646]

It's with a heavy heart and still an intense anger that I type this. Having already lost a family friend to this virus and saw how quickly it destroyed every part of their body, a sense of dread overcame me when I received frantic messages from my family yesterday.

 

My BiL is in the ICU fighting for his life this very moment, but there is not much fight left. The virus took him away into a coma within the space of 24hrs. 24....hours! My sister is not in good mental state, and I fear knowing how fragile she is, what will come after this is all over. I have tried so hard to spare my family of the grief that has afflicted so many, and bit my tongue in the face of those who simply think that this virus is a joke or that it is somehow the afflicted person's fault and praying that this pain will never ever reach their doorsteps. Yesterday, my soul felt so heavy I went out to the mountains to spend some time with the vastness of creation in the hope to find some peace and answers. This is what I've came home to. Grief and more pain.

 

So please guys, while you're all arguing about 'statistics' and your interpretations of them and have numerous heated matches about politics while you always do... please don't forget what really matters in life. I'm taking some time off from the internet atm... emotions are too raw. Hug and keep your families close - if they aren't within your bubbles then in whatever socially distanced way you can.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,366]

15 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

It's with a heavy heart and still an intense anger that I type this. Having already lost a family friend to this virus and saw how quickly it destroyed every part of their body, a sense of dread overcame me when I received frantic messages from my family yesterday.

 

My BiL is in the ICU fighting for his life this very moment, but there is not much fight left. The virus took him away into a coma within the space of 24hrs. 24....hours! My sister is not in good mental state, and I fear knowing how fragile she is, what will come after this is all over. I have tried so hard to spare my family of the grief that has afflicted so many, and bit my tongue in the face of those who simply think that this virus is a joke or that it is somehow the afflicted person's fault and praying that this pain will never ever reach their doorsteps. Yesterday, my soul felt so heavy I went out to the mountains to spend some time with the vastness of creation in the hope to find some peace and answers. This is what I've came home to. Grief and more pain.

 

So please guys, while you're all arguing about 'statistics' and your interpretations of them and have numerous heated matches about politics while you always do... please don't forget what really matters in life. I'm taking some time off from the internet atm... emotions are too raw. Hug and keep your families close - if they aren't within your bubbles then in whatever socially distanced way you can.

So sorry friend