SEPTEMBER 2020 I-129F K-1 FILERS

[JobbinsKnobbins 240]

5 hours ago, KSVJ said:

I'm just curious - for those that are rejected - I know a lot of them are rejected initially due to things like incorrect fee, wrong edition of the form, etc. If someone corrects their error, do they move from rejected to in process? Or do they get a whole new case number? I'm just not sure whether or not the "rejected" will move or if they're permanent.

I have a hunch that they generally get a new case number; I have seen a small handful of the rejected items move.  It's not an absolute state, when I file these into categories its based on the text in the return statement from the USCIS; so its not perfect.  Though rejections tend to happen early in the process and they aren't as mobile as say RFEs in changing status.

[quinnscribe 121]

I got my RFE today (~6 business days out from hearing about it) and I figured I'd tell people about it. The RFE text says:

 

"Intent to Marry:

 

Submit evidence of the bona fide nature of your and the beneficiary's intent to marry within 90 days of his admission to the United States. Such evidence may consist of a signed statement from you and the beneficiary; evidence of wedding preparations; evidence of ongoing communications; correspondence discussing your future and/or marriage; evidence of financial support; evidence of subsequent meetings; evidence of an engagement ceremony; birth certificates of children born to the relationship; and/or any other evidence that might shed light on your and the beneficiary's intent to marry."

 

What really frustrates me is I thought my original submission had all of that. We provided a joint letter of intent to marry within 90 days of his arrival with the original packet like we were required to. In addition I provided a packet with all our other evidence they wanted (like the proofs of meeting in person, of our financial ties, etc). Here's a screenshot of the table of contents of the Ongoing Relationship Evidence part showing the parts I thought should have qualified for the above. This has chatlogs about what we'd do if we became disabled, whether or not we want to have children, when we decided we were engaged and going for the K-1, what we were thinking about the importance of weddings, 2 birthday gifts (evidence of financial support), and the order form and bank statement referring to the engagement jewelry I bought for him. All of that went with our original packet and I genuinely thought that was enough to qualify as the above evidence, so uh...

 

Right now our plan looks like this:

1.) we're going to find all the chatlogs of additional wedding planning we've done between NOA-1 and the RFE and put those in

a.) a guest list for the wedding

b.) discussion of which last name we're taking

c.) discussions over my engagement ring

2.) we will rewrite two separate letters of intent to marry within 90 days

 

Would it be a bad idea to re-include the old documentation, or better to just include a note saying "for pre-NOA-1 evidence of wedding planning and correspondence discussing our planned future and marriage, please see documents 3.7 through 3.13 of our original packet"? I don't want to look like I am sassing them, but all of that was there.

 

What did other people put in as additional support besides their "90 day letter"?

[AishaniA93 108]

42 minutes ago, quinnscribe said:

I got my RFE today (~6 business days out from hearing about it) and I figured I'd tell people about it. The RFE text says:

 

"Intent to Marry:

 

Submit evidence of the bona fide nature of your and the beneficiary's intent to marry within 90 days of his admission to the United States. Such evidence may consist of a signed statement from you and the beneficiary; evidence of wedding preparations; evidence of ongoing communications; correspondence discussing your future and/or marriage; evidence of financial support; evidence of subsequent meetings; evidence of an engagement ceremony; birth certificates of children born to the relationship; and/or any other evidence that might shed light on your and the beneficiary's intent to marry."

 

What really frustrates me is I thought my original submission had all of that. We provided a joint letter of intent to marry within 90 days of his arrival with the original packet like we were required to. In addition I provided a packet with all our other evidence they wanted (like the proofs of meeting in person, of our financial ties, etc). Here's a screenshot of the table of contents of the Ongoing Relationship Evidence part showing the parts I thought should have qualified for the above. This has chatlogs about what we'd do if we became disabled, whether or not we want to have children, when we decided we were engaged and going for the K-1, what we were thinking about the importance of weddings, 2 birthday gifts (evidence of financial support), and the order form and bank statement referring to the engagement jewelry I bought for him. All of that went with our original packet and I genuinely thought that was enough to qualify as the above evidence, so uh...

 

Right now our plan looks like this:

1.) we're going to find all the chatlogs of additional wedding planning we've done between NOA-1 and the RFE and put those in

a.) a guest list for the wedding

b.) discussion of which last name we're taking

c.) discussions over my engagement ring

2.) we will rewrite two separate letters of intent to marry within 90 days

 

Would it be a bad idea to re-include the old documentation, or better to just include a note saying "for pre-NOA-1 evidence of wedding planning and correspondence discussing our planned future and marriage, please see documents 3.7 through 3.13 of our original packet"? I don't want to look like I am sassing them, but all of that was there.

 

What did other people put in as additional support besides their "90 day letter"?

I reckon what they are asking for specifically is an individual letter from each of you that is signed. I was reading a case here a few days ago (thread has been locked now) where a petitioner was trying to get a 16 year old over from somewhere with her parent's consent to marry her. I don't think she child (let's call it what it is) had signed the document herself, her parents had. I think USCIS is trying to make sure all beneficiaries are signing their intent to marry letters of their own free will. 

 

Wouldn't hurt to send some of that evidence again though, that you sent previously. I think even the further evidence you have of additional planning for the wedding and maybe your engagement ring would help along with the new letters of intent. Definitely take other opinions but this is what I take from this

 

Good luck!

[JustineC85 119]

11 hours ago, quinnscribe said:

I got my RFE today (~6 business days out from hearing about it) and I figured I'd tell people about it. The RFE text says:

 

"Intent to Marry:

 

Submit evidence of the bona fide nature of your and the beneficiary's intent to marry within 90 days of his admission to the United States. Such evidence may consist of a signed statement from you and the beneficiary; evidence of wedding preparations; evidence of ongoing communications; correspondence discussing your future and/or marriage; evidence of financial support; evidence of subsequent meetings; evidence of an engagement ceremony; birth certificates of children born to the relationship; and/or any other evidence that might shed light on your and the beneficiary's intent to marry."

 

What really frustrates me is I thought my original submission had all of that. We provided a joint letter of intent to marry within 90 days of his arrival with the original packet like we were required to. In addition I provided a packet with all our other evidence they wanted (like the proofs of meeting in person, of our financial ties, etc). Here's a screenshot of the table of contents of the Ongoing Relationship Evidence part showing the parts I thought should have qualified for the above. This has chatlogs about what we'd do if we became disabled, whether or not we want to have children, when we decided we were engaged and going for the K-1, what we were thinking about the importance of weddings, 2 birthday gifts (evidence of financial support), and the order form and bank statement referring to the engagement jewelry I bought for him. All of that went with our original packet and I genuinely thought that was enough to qualify as the above evidence, so uh...

 

Right now our plan looks like this:

1.) we're going to find all the chatlogs of additional wedding planning we've done between NOA-1 and the RFE and put those in

a.) a guest list for the wedding

b.) discussion of which last name we're taking

c.) discussions over my engagement ring

2.) we will rewrite two separate letters of intent to marry within 90 days

 

Would it be a bad idea to re-include the old documentation, or better to just include a note saying "for pre-NOA-1 evidence of wedding planning and correspondence discussing our planned future and marriage, please see documents 3.7 through 3.13 of our original packet"? I don't want to look like I am sassing them, but all of that was there.

 

What did other people put in as additional support besides their "90 day letter"?

Yes the separate intent to marry letters are key. I would lead off that as your primary and first document and use the others as support. 

[NB5347 43]

12 hours ago, quinnscribe said:

I got my RFE today (~6 business days out from hearing about it) and I figured I'd tell people about it. The RFE text says:

 

"Intent to Marry:

 

Submit evidence of the bona fide nature of your and the beneficiary's intent to marry within 90 days of his admission to the United States. Such evidence may consist of a signed statement from you and the beneficiary; evidence of wedding preparations; evidence of ongoing communications; correspondence discussing your future and/or marriage; evidence of financial support; evidence of subsequent meetings; evidence of an engagement ceremony; birth certificates of children born to the relationship; and/or any other evidence that might shed light on your and the beneficiary's intent to marry."

 

What really frustrates me is I thought my original submission had all of that. We provided a joint letter of intent to marry within 90 days of his arrival with the original packet like we were required to. In addition I provided a packet with all our other evidence they wanted (like the proofs of meeting in person, of our financial ties, etc). Here's a screenshot of the table of contents of the Ongoing Relationship Evidence part showing the parts I thought should have qualified for the above. This has chatlogs about what we'd do if we became disabled, whether or not we want to have children, when we decided we were engaged and going for the K-1, what we were thinking about the importance of weddings, 2 birthday gifts (evidence of financial support), and the order form and bank statement referring to the engagement jewelry I bought for him. All of that went with our original packet and I genuinely thought that was enough to qualify as the above evidence, so uh...

 

Right now our plan looks like this:

1.) we're going to find all the chatlogs of additional wedding planning we've done between NOA-1 and the RFE and put those in

a.) a guest list for the wedding

b.) discussion of which last name we're taking

c.) discussions over my engagement ring

2.) we will rewrite two separate letters of intent to marry within 90 days

 

Would it be a bad idea to re-include the old documentation, or better to just include a note saying "for pre-NOA-1 evidence of wedding planning and correspondence discussing our planned future and marriage, please see documents 3.7 through 3.13 of our original packet"? I don't want to look like I am sassing them, but all of that was there.

 

What did other people put in as additional support besides their "90 day letter"?

We, as well, sent a joint letter of intent to marry and signed it both. I’ve re-read the instructions and it does not specify that two separate letters of intent to marry are required... but it seems that could be the issue. We have already written up our two separate letters and if that’s our reason, will be sending that in. I should receive mine tomorrow or Tuesday and will let group know if that was the “missing piece.” 
 

Question for those who sent in two separate letters, did you send in originals of this statement or was a copy okay for this? My RFE will go to my address in USA but we live in Spain and id like to just scan a copy to my parents back home and they can print and Mail off with the RFE cover. It would be much quicker than waiting for parents to send me RFE and then mailing it back to USA complete.

[yvonme 124]

2 hours ago, NB5347 said:

did you send in originals of this statement or was a copy okay for this?

Hi ! I sent my signed copy to my lawyer, my fiancé scanned and sent theirs, this did not affect us. I think what they are looking for are to separate documents stating “I [name] intend to marry [name of fiancé] … “. 
 

We included 20 pictures with times & dates, 50 pages of chat communication (no edits), engagement ring receipt, my wedding coordinator contract, passport stamps visiting each other, Statement of how we first met,  Any receipts spent doing things together.. intent to marry letters. 
Good luck you got this. 

Edited May 9, 2021 by yvonme
Added supplement documentation I provided

[quinnscribe 121]

Thanks to everyone who is saying they think it is two separate letters. We will be sure to do 2 letters for the RFE, but will also include extra documentation about the wedding ring and copies of our chat communications where we discussed who would take whose last name and then when we eventually decided on the issue, draft wedding invites, as well, in hopes that that helps.

 

I think what makes me most frustrated is that even on the RFE it says "a signed statement from you and the beneficiary". It does not say "please include TWO signed statements" or letters, it did not say the problem was not having two, so based just on the wording of the RFE, if I didn't have here to ask, I could still have assumed that one statement was enough because it kind of implies ambiguously that 'a statement [from both you and the beneficiary]' or '[a statement from you] and [a statement from the beneficiary]'.

[J&D1008 376]

16 minutes ago, quinnscribe said:

Thanks to everyone who is saying they think it is two separate letters. We will be sure to do 2 letters for the RFE, but will also include extra documentation about the wedding ring and copies of our chat communications where we discussed who would take whose last name and then when we eventually decided on the issue, draft wedding invites, as well, in hopes that that helps.

 

I think what makes me most frustrated is that even on the RFE it says "a signed statement from you and the beneficiary". It does not say "please include TWO signed statements" or letters, it did not say the problem was not having two, so based just on the wording of the RFE, if I didn't have here to ask, I could still have assumed that one statement was enough because it kind of implies ambiguously that 'a statement [from both you and the beneficiary]' or '[a statement from you] and [a statement from the beneficiary]'.

 I have read many RFE's for those sending in 1 joint letter, I agree they do not make it clear. Best wishes to you! 

[J&D1008 376]

5 hours ago, NB5347 said:

We, as well, sent a joint letter of intent to marry and signed it both. I’ve re-read the instructions and it does not specify that two separate letters of intent to marry are required... but it seems that could be the issue. We have already written up our two separate letters and if that’s our reason, will be sending that in. I should receive mine tomorrow or Tuesday and will let group know if that was the “missing piece.” 
 

Question for those who sent in two separate letters, did you send in originals of this statement or was a copy okay for this? My RFE will go to my address in USA but we live in Spain and id like to just scan a copy to my parents back home and they can print and Mail off with the RFE cover. It would be much quicker than waiting for parents to send me RFE and then mailing it back to USA complete.

My Fiancé scanned me a copy of his letter of intent and I had my original letter. I believe the scanned copy should be fine. But of course see what other say. 

[JL & JT 135]

5 hours ago, quinnscribe said:

Thanks to everyone who is saying they think it is two separate letters. We will be sure to do 2 letters for the RFE, but will also include extra documentation about the wedding ring and copies of our chat communications where we discussed who would take whose last name and then when we eventually decided on the issue, draft wedding invites, as well, in hopes that that helps.

 

I think what makes me most frustrated is that even on the RFE it says "a signed statement from you and the beneficiary". It does not say "please include TWO signed statements" or letters, it did not say the problem was not having two, so based just on the wording of the RFE, if I didn't have here to ask, I could still have assumed that one statement was enough because it kind of implies ambiguously that 'a statement [from both you and the beneficiary]' or '[a statement from you] and [a statement from the beneficiary]'.

Not entirely sure on this, but I think the wording is also super important. Some couples do only send one letter and don't get RFEs. I think if you send one joint letter, there needs to be 2 statements in that letter that cover both perspectives (i.e. “I [petitioner] intend to marry [beneficiary] …" and I [beneficiary] intend to marry [petitioner] …").

[Keithn85 400]

10 hours ago, NB5347 said:

Question for those who sent in two separate letters, did you send in originals of this statement or was a copy okay for this? 

My fiancée scanned her signed copy and emailed to me.  I printed and signed my copy.  We used a template that had us "print" each of our names in the I _____ intend to marry ______ type format.  I do believe having either 2 separate copies or a joint copy with 2 separate "statements" for each person is the best way to go.

[AishaniA93 108]

7 hours ago, quinnscribe said:

Thanks to everyone who is saying they think it is two separate letters. We will be sure to do 2 letters for the RFE, but will also include extra documentation about the wedding ring and copies of our chat communications where we discussed who would take whose last name and then when we eventually decided on the issue, draft wedding invites, as well, in hopes that that helps.

 

I think what makes me most frustrated is that even on the RFE it says "a signed statement from you and the beneficiary". It does not say "please include TWO signed statements" or letters, it did not say the problem was not having two, so based just on the wording of the RFE, if I didn't have here to ask, I could still have assumed that one statement was enough because it kind of implies ambiguously that 'a statement [from both you and the beneficiary]' or '[a statement from you] and [a statement from the beneficiary]'.

Agreed. They really don't make it easy. A lot of people here say 'take the instructions literally, don't make it more complicated than it is' but 3/4 of the time the instructions require a touch more digging. If I didn't have VJ I don't know what I would do! 

[JustineC85 119]

We got approved right now! I could cry. I am so happy. 

 

NOA 1: 9/21

RFE: 9/14

NOA 2: 5/10

 

Now on to Sydney we go! 

[macorbin 25]

15 hours ago, AishaniA93 said:

Agreed. They really don't make it easy. A lot of people here say 'take the instructions literally, don't make it more complicated than it is' but 3/4 of the time the instructions require a touch more digging. If I didn't have VJ I don't know what I would do! 

 

15 hours ago, AishaniA93 said:

Agreed. They really don't make it easy. A lot of people here say 'take the instructions literally, don't make it more complicated than it is' but 3/4 of the time the instructions require a touch more digging. If I didn't have VJ I don't know what I would do! 

i saw your time line your received date is on december like mine why there is no december 2020 fillers ?so we can join

[HAand CJ 2]

3 hours ago, JustineC85 said:

We got approved right now! I could cry. I am so happy. 

 

NOA 1: 9/21

RFE: 9/14

NOA 2: 5/10

 

Now on to Sydney we go! 

Congratulations! Could you please share what your RFE was about and how you responded?