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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Australia
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Hi, I just wanted to ask how the new Public Charge Rule affects K1 visa applications. Does the petitioner need to have 250% of the required minimum income?

 

Thank you! @Greenbaum

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The 250% level was never required. it was a heavily weighted positive factor.

 

For a K-1 specifically, the CO really just looks at a totality of the circumstances. The I-134 is just a tool to help them do so. Some countries don't regularly even ask for the I-134. One even let you self-sponsor. A handful are much more strict.

I would suggest looking at what your consulate typically wants to see, albeit often you can get a pretty good idea if you are sufficient or not.

 

FAM: https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/09FAM030208.html#M302_8_2_B_2

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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3 hours ago, Jen27062019 said:

Hi, I just wanted to ask how the new Public Charge Rule affects K1 visa applications. Does the petitioner need to have 250% of the required minimum income?

 

Thank you! @Greenbaum

See @geowrian answer as I concur with his assessment.

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Adjustment of Status

AOS March 5, 2014 Submitted AOS with EAD/AP package to Chicago USICS

Delivered March 8, 2014 AOS packaged delivered to USCIS drop box

Accepted March 19, 2014 Text message with receipt numbers

Biometrics April 16, 2014 Biometrics completed

EAD May 23, 2014 Employment Authorization Document approved and went to card production

TD May 23, 2014 Travel Document approved and went for card production

Receipt EAD/AP May 30, 2014 Received combo card EAD/AP

Green Card Approved July 11, 2014 Approved, no interview. Went to card production.

Green Card received July 17, 2014 GC received without interview

Removal of Conditions

Mailed I-751 Dec 16, 2015 Submitted ROC (removal of conditions)

Received Dec 18, 2015 USPS notification of successful delivery

Check Cashed Dec 21, 2015 Check was cashed

NOA-1 Issued Dec 21, 2015 NOA-1 for ROC issued

NOA-1 Issued Dec 26, 2015 NOA-1 Received

Biometrics Appt. Jan 29, 2016 Biometrics Appointment Scheduled [Completed]

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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@geowrian @Greenbaum

 

would you guys know if a petitioner receiving healthcare by government is consider public charge? I have healthcare for my children through the government Currently due through this pandemic and job change. 

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36 minutes ago, In4theJourney said:

@geowrian @Greenbaum

 

would you guys know if a petitioner receiving healthcare by government is consider public charge? I have healthcare for my children through the government Currently due through this pandemic and job change. 

Define "healthcare by the government". You mean an ACA plan (healthcare.gov)? Or Medicaid? What state?

Do you already have a green card or are you a financial sponsor for somebody else?

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

Define "healthcare by the government". You mean an ACA plan (healthcare.gov)? Or Medicaid? What state?

Do you already have a green card or are you a financial sponsor for somebody else?

Medicaid I believe. I’m a US citizen in Arizona. I’m sponsoring my fiancé. 

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5 hours ago, In4theJourney said:

Medicaid I believe. I’m a US citizen in Arizona. I’m sponsoring my fiancé. 

Depending on the exact public charge rule in effect at the time of the interview (1999 FAM guidance, 2018 FAM guidance, 2019 FAM guidance, or something new), it could be a factor as it is a means-tested public benefit. It is not a basis for refusal in itself, just part of the totality of the circumstances.

 

Your fiance won't be able to use that plan. That is a means tested benefit that he generally won't qualify to use for at least 5 years after getting a green card (or if he becomes a USC sooner). There should be plans in place for alternative health insurance after his arrival (like an ACA/healthcare.gov plan, which he can use once he applies for AOS).

Only 2 states generally fund Medicaid without federal money for new immigrants: NY and CA.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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On 8/18/2020 at 5:10 PM, Jen27062019 said:

Hi, I just wanted to ask how the new Public Charge Rule affects K1 visa applications. Does the petitioner need to have 250% of the required minimum income?

 

Thank you! @Greenbaum


In my recent experience at the consulate in Sydney, my husband did even close to 250% but they wanted a joint sponsor. He did return back to the states that year and previous tax return was $0.

 

its case by case, but depending how close you are to the 125% as required and how long the petitioner has been in that position, I would consider a joint sponsor. Just to be safe. Getting a joint sponsor added 2 weeks to our case being approved. 
 

also, the consular assistant said that the consular official may request our public charge form too. He never did but wanted a joint sponsor. 

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Our Visa Journey:

 

2 April 2018: Married in Santa Ana, California 💒

6 June 2019: Birth of our daughter 👶👨‍👩‍👧

14 October 2019: Sent I-130 package via AusPost 📮 

18 October 2019: NOA1 received - sent to Texas Service Centre :D

24 October 2019: USCIS processed filing fee 🤑 waiting game 🕰️

22 January 2020: Andy moved back to the USA😞 🇺🇸 - re-establish domicile & to get a job 👨‍⚕️

23 February 2020: Petition transferred from Texas Service Centre to Nebraska Service Centre 😞

15 May 2020: I-130 petition approved! 😭😍 Date changes leading up to the approval were: 1 May, 12 May, 13 May. 

16 May 2020: Received NVC email, paid all fees. Waiting for fees to process so we can upload and submit all documents

19 May 2020: Immigrant visa Fees PROCESSED; affidavit of support fee PROCESSED 

28 May 2020: Submitted VISA application, civil documents & affidavit of support documents. Patiently awaiting DQ. 

2 June 2020: Email received from NVC stating that we have been Documentary Qualified and that they will liaise with US Consulate in Sydney for Interview 🐨

27 June 2020: Expedite request submitted 🤞

7 July 2020: Expedite request APPROVED! 😃😭

15 July 2020: Email received advising of interview date and time. 
20 July 2020: Medical i: n Melbourne CBD 🏥     
28 July 2020: US visa interview at US consulate Sydney - refused 221(g) issued. Request for joint sponsor 😞

31 July 2020: uploaded joint sponsor to NVC, emailed consulate 

5 August 2020: emailed received advising they have received the joint sponsor 

7 August 2020: case i0n “administrative processing” 🤞

10 August 2020: visa ISSUED 😭 

12 August 2020: passport and visa in hand!

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