Can I ask for a supervisor?

[little immigrant 801]

The birth certificate gets rejected because the child wasn't born and registered in Managua. I need to explain this to them. Can I get a call them and ask for a supervisor? 

[jan22 3,056]

Not sure where you case is since you don't say, but I know the following is required if at NVC and believe it applies to USCIS as well.

 

Have you followed the procedure for what to do if a birth is not registered at the Central Registry as outlined in the State Department's website:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Nicaragua.html ?  If so, you need to submit the documents obtained during that process.  If not, that is what you need to do.  A supervisor cannot change the requirements no matter how much you explain things.

Edited August 17, 2020 by jan22

[igoyougoduke 1,674]

43 minutes ago, little immigrant said:

The birth certificate gets rejected because the child wasn't born and registered in Managua. I need to explain this to them. Can I get a call them and ask for a supervisor? 

there is nothing you can explain. They are asking you to submit the proper birth certificate. you need to address the issues in the RFE, correct and submit the documents 

[little immigrant 801]

8 minutes ago, jan22 said:

Not sure where you case is since you don't say, but I know the following is required if at NVC and believe it applies to USCIS as well.

 

Have you followed the procedure for what to do if a birth is not registered at the Central Registry as outlined in the State Department's website:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Nicaragua.html ?  If so, you need to submit the documents obtained during that process.  If not, that is what you need to do.  A supervisor cannot change the requirements no matter how much you explain things.

I have a time line it says Nicaragua 

 

I have followed the link and I sent someone to pick up the birth certificate but it doesn't say that the child was registered in Managua and they rejected it. The boy was born and registered in his home town where he lives today which is 4 hours away from Managua 

5 minutes ago, James120383 said:

there is nothing you can explain. They are asking you to submit the proper birth certificate. you need to address the issues in the RFE, correct and submit the documents 

I have submitted one certificate from the town the boy was born in and the other from the central registry from Managua. Both were rejected. I understood why they rejected the first one but not the second. 

[igoyougoduke 1,674]

10 minutes ago, little immigrant said:

I have a time line it says Nicaragua 

 

I have followed the link and I sent someone to pick up the birth certificate but it doesn't say that the child was registered in Managua and they rejected it. The boy was born and registered in his home town where he lives today which is 4 hours away from Managua 

I have submitted one certificate from the town the boy was born in and the other from the central registry from Managua. Both were rejected. I understood why they rejected the first one but not the second. 

yeah you need to read the instructions of the format of birth certificate for your country. they wont tell you what is wrong. RFE says what is the cause. if you feel it meets the requirements than send it back explaining that it is correct

[Villanelle 4,122]

Ive read some of your other posts about this. I dont know much about that area but from what I gather births there can be registered at the local town or at the main central registry. You can register late with the central registry. 

 

For USCIS they only want it from the central registry. If you were issued one late (1 yr or more after birth) then they want it from the central registry + secondary evidence. Secondary evidence can be a baptismal certificate- you say you dont have that. It can also be statements from the parents/grandparents. Statements arent as strong of evidence though. You can match the statements with some other type of evidence like school records.  

 

So your second submission of the central registry one was rejected because you didnt include secondary evidence. The webpage linked above only has limited info on secondary evidence for there, mainly baptism certificates - but you can google secondary birth evidence USCIS in general to find examples of other things USCIS considers secondary evidence. 

 

[little immigrant 801]

I will get 2 affidavits because I can't provide a baptismal certificate because we don't baptize babies.

 

Another issue came up. I uploaded I-864a and it was rejected because it says we didn't sign it. But we did. I know now they're making stuff up and just delaying us on purpose. I really wish to bring it up with them. I know when you call USCIS you can ask for a tier 2 and I was wondering if you can do that with NVC?

[little immigrant 801]

On 8/17/2020 at 11:18 AM, James120383 said:

yeah you need to read the instructions of the format of birth certificate for your country. they wont tell you what is wrong. RFE says what is the cause. if you feel it meets the requirements than send it back explaining that it is correct

There wasn't a RFE and yes they do tell me in the messages what's wrong but most of the time I can't read them. They clearly said they want the place of inscription to be Managua but the boy wasn't born there he was born and registered in a different town when he was born.

[little immigrant 801]

On 8/17/2020 at 11:28 AM, Villanelle said:

Ive read some of your other posts about this. I dont know much about that area but from what I gather births there can be registered at the local town or at the main central registry. You can register late with the central registry. 

 

For USCIS they only want it from the central registry. If you were issued one late (1 yr or more after birth) then they want it from the central registry + secondary evidence. Secondary evidence can be a baptismal certificate- you say you dont have that. It can also be statements from the parents/grandparents. Statements arent as strong of evidence though. You can match the statements with some other type of evidence like school records.  

 

So your second submission of the central registry one was rejected because you didnt include secondary evidence. The webpage linked above only has limited info on secondary evidence for there, mainly baptism certificates - but you can google secondary birth evidence USCIS in general to find examples of other things USCIS considers secondary evidence. 

 

I got it from the central registry but they want his place of registration to say Managua but he was first registered in somoto because that's where he was born at. The certificate is from the central registry of Managua and I can't falsify a document to say the boy was registered somewhere else. It's like if I was born in Texas but they want it to say California. The fact that I was born and registered in Texas will never ever change (that's just an example) I called NVC and they said I needed a letter of explanation which I did. They never mentioned secondary evidence. 😔

 

They say I didn't sign the I-864a but I did. Where is says print I typed it. I signed with a black ink pen. I entered the date with the computer as well. What could I have done wrong? Is it the ink color? 😐

 

Guys this whole process is wearing me out and I'm getting depressed. 

 

Edit the instructions say black ink so I did it right. I'm crying now 

Edited August 18, 2020 by little immigrant

[little immigrant 801]

On 8/17/2020 at 11:28 AM, Villanelle said:

Ive read some of your other posts about this. I dont know much about that area but from what I gather births there can be registered at the local town or at the main central registry. You can register late with the central registry. 

 

For USCIS they only want it from the central registry. If you were issued one late (1 yr or more after birth) then they want it from the central registry + secondary evidence. Secondary evidence can be a baptismal certificate- you say you dont have that. It can also be statements from the parents/grandparents. Statements arent as strong of evidence though. You can match the statements with some other type of evidence like school records.  

 

So your second submission of the central registry one was rejected because you didnt include secondary evidence. The webpage linked above only has limited info on secondary evidence for there, mainly baptism certificates - but you can google secondary birth evidence USCIS in general to find examples of other things USCIS considers secondary evidence. 

 

So they boy is turning 15 this year and you say we need to register him in Managua late? How do you know this is possible? I don't want to send him to Managua (4 hour trip) if it's not possible. Have you seen cases before that I can see?

[Lemonslice 4,947]

Could you/did you post the birth certificates you have here (removing the private details).  Maybe one of us could look at it and see if we notice anything amiss.  You can certainly ask to speak to a supervisor if you are convinced they made a mistake.  It happens.  

[little immigrant 801]

1 hour ago, Lemonslice said:

Could you/did you post the birth certificates you have here (removing the private details).  Maybe one of us could look at it and see if we notice anything amiss.  You can certainly ask to speak to a supervisor if you are convinced they made a mistake.  It happens.  

Why did you put a confused face on my topic? I can't write right so maybe I made a mistake. I know I did in my other topic that I opened when I said I signed it and they said I didn't. Still don't know what to do about it. But I'm really freaking out right now and I think it's ridiculous because I signed it and they said I didn't. I want to cry again. I will never get my boy here they are already so against it. 😭

Edited August 19, 2020 by little immigrant

[Troy B 224]

8 hours ago, little immigrant said:

They say I didn't sign the I-864a but I did. Where is says print I typed it. I signed with a black ink pen. I entered the date with the computer as well. What could I have done wrong? Is it the ink color? 😐

 

Guys this whole process is wearing me out and I'm getting depressed. 

 

Edit the instructions say black ink so I did it right. I'm crying now 

 

Typically when signing something you are expected to write in the date.

 

Also despite the instructions saying to use black ink,  I have seen it mentioned here to sign with blue ink, as the black ink can make it look like it's a copy.   Seems you have two choices,  either upload the signature page again.  Or call USCIS and hope they will tell you exactly what they did not like about what you had provided.

[little immigrant 801]

9 hours ago, Troy B said:

 

Typically when signing something you are expected to write in the date.

 

Also despite the instructions saying to use black ink,  I have seen it mentioned here to sign with blue ink, as the black ink can make it look like it's a copy.   Seems you have two choices,  either upload the signature page again.  Or call USCIS and hope they will tell you exactly what they did not like about what you had provided.

I uploaded it again. I have no idea what will happen 

[little immigrant 801]

So about the birth certificate, we did submit what we had. They wanted the birth certificate to say that the boy was registered somewhere else but I cannot lie on a document. I went ahead and clicked on Ask NVC and sent them an email with the ask to please forward this to an officer who can approve my case. They did. It was Documentarily qualified today. Just wanted to give a quick update in case anyone reads this. I included an apostille, 2 statements of mom and grandma including translations for everything and the birth certificate from the Central Registry of Managua plus translation.

 

About the signature, I mixed up mine with his and his with mine. Haha. Embarrassing.

Edited January 5, 2021 by little immigrant