UK posts being made invisible

[Mags 112]

TO EVERYONE: Stay on topic and lets make this a constructive conversation. If you want a side bar take it to PM please. No attcking each other, no digging up the past. This post was doing great and getting some constructive new ideas so lets keep it on topic please .

Seriously, this is what I'm talking about. The ADMIN & mods are in this topic, yet Joe has been allowed to go on & on & insult?

He did three posts in the space of about 5 minutes. We are not superhuman, we do not have the ability to type at 2000 wpm! I'm not sitting here monitoring this thread.

You are all for leaving posts visible. Are you now saying that you feel these posts SHOULD be made invisible?

Edited June 22, 2007 by mags

[JoeCanuk 3]

TO EVERYONE: Stay on topic and lets make this a constructive conversation. If you want a side bar take it to PM please. No attcking each other, no digging up the past. This post was doing great and getting some constructive new ideas so lets keep it on topic please .

Seriously, this is what I'm talking about. The ADMIN & mods are in this topic, yet Joe has been allowed to go on & on & insult?

I haven't insulted you. However, the one who said my posts were pointless and inflammatory insulted me. But I'm not going to make a big deal about it.

If I were going to insult you I'd do it via PM so as not to cause a disturbance. You would then be free to report it. However, I did not insult you. Why would I insult someone who inspired me to make a great signature?

[Dr_LHA 3]

I completely understand what you mean, and by the way, I did think that you had a right to the statement that you made, as I told Ewok. The problem, for me, is consistency, not censorship. I think if deleting posts were a *more* regular occurrence, people would just get used to it.

*runs and hides*

If it became more common, I'd stop posting here.

[Sinergy 3]

example on how NOT to act on a thread so a flame war doesnt start i nominate the behavior of JoeCanuk

[Marilyn. 340]

how do we know it doesn't happen more often?? maybe it does and we just don't notice...

Edited June 22, 2007 by MarilynP

[chri'stina 190]

I have seen in several threads lately people tattling saying things like "well let's just see what Ewok has to say about this.." or yelling for the Mods like they are going to run to be there instantly, etc. Just report something or contact a Mod if you think it goes against the TOS. They move as fast as they can on something I'm sure.

And if you are in the process of attacking someone back, don't think the mods will only support your side. It goes both ways. I'm not even just referring to this situation but recently in other situations too. It's like "I'm reporting you, Stupid, for calling me dumb!"

I don't have any suggestions at the moment about the moderating. I think they are doing a good job. I'm sure they will figure out some ways to do things better, it's a learning process.

[no name 1]

TO EVERYONE: Stay on topic and lets make this a constructive conversation. If you want a side bar take it to PM please. No attcking each other, no digging up the past. This post was doing great and getting some constructive new ideas so lets keep it on topic please .

Seriously, this is what I'm talking about. The ADMIN & mods are in this topic, yet Joe has been allowed to go on & on & insult?

He did three posts in the space of about 5 minutes. We are not superhuman, we do not have the ability to type at 2000 wpm! I'm not sitting here monitoring this thread.

You are all for leaving posts visible. Are you now saying that you feel these posts SHOULD be made invisible?

Capn replied twice about it during that time, yet nothing has happened.

[Mags 112]

how do we know it doesn't happen more often?? maybe it does and we just don't notice...

Exactly!

[JoeCanuk 3]

It's not censorship when you don't have the right to say what you want in the first place. You prove it with your last sentence. Even though I did nothing wrong. And I'll repeat what someone else said on the first page of this thread: The OP was inflammatory...along with being pointless.

censorship |ˈsensərˌ sh ip|

noun

the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts : details of the visit were subject to military censorship.

Censorship has nothing to do with if you had the right to say something in the first place. If you post something, and someone removes it, its censorship. Plain and simple. You don't seem to understand this, and appear to be mixing up censorship with "The right to Free Speech". Nobody has the right to free speech here, as anything can be censored.

It has everything to do with it. If you don't have the right to freedom of speech, then you are not being censored. If you're in the military and you are not allowed to tell the enemy your nation's secrets are you going to say that's censorship? If you post something and someone removes it, that is not censorship because a) you are a guest and you do not have the right to just say whatever you want and B) the mods feel it broke the rules. Ergo, that is not censorship. You're right, nobody has the right to free speech here (I've been saying that), therefore, nothing is censored.

[Traviesa 0]

I guess I just don't understand what the big deal is about a censored post, really.

I would have said the same thing before it happened to me! I just don't think it's fair that in the past, one thread always sticks out in my mind-the one where I told everyone what happened at our interview and instead of getting support literally it was like a gang attack-and other more recent situations where people are getting away with saying things that are downright HATEFUL and cruel, and I can't speak my mind the one time when I decide to do so...it pretty much sucks.

I completely understand what you mean, and by the way, I did think that you had a right to the statement that you made, as I told Ewok. The problem, for me, is consistency, not censorship. I think if deleting posts were a *more* regular occurrence, people would just get used to it.

*runs and hides*

Thanks, and I think you're probably right. We would get used to it. Only thing I would like to see is that policy to be applied equally and fairly. I feel like it will be difficult to make that happen.

[*julez* 124]

Going forward, I'd like to see:

- invisibility as last result. It is big brother & unneccessary unless racist, threatening, etc.

- warnings to chill out

- consistency in which posts get censored

- less bias

-If a threadmust be name changed, say why. This thread had no business being renamed, or moved.

I do appreciate your work, mods!

I have to say, devilette, I agree with this post entirely!

[Boiler 44,857]

I stumbled across this, I do not think I have previously crossed swords with anybody invloved.

I went and looked at the thread, it looked very tame, the OP was the one geting emotonal it seemed to me.

I also went back and looked at her previous posts, just to get a flavour. All I can say is that she is hardly in a position to complain about a brusque approach anyway.

When it comes down to it if you want to get personal on an open board, then you live of die with the consequences.

[JoeCanuk 3]

TO EVERYONE: Stay on topic and lets make this a constructive conversation. If you want a side bar take it to PM please. No attcking each other, no digging up the past. This post was doing great and getting some constructive new ideas so lets keep it on topic please .

Seriously, this is what I'm talking about. The ADMIN & mods are in this topic, yet Joe has been allowed to go on & on & insult?

He did three posts in the space of about 5 minutes. We are not superhuman, we do not have the ability to type at 2000 wpm! I'm not sitting here monitoring this thread.

You are all for leaving posts visible. Are you now saying that you feel these posts SHOULD be made invisible?

Capn replied twice about it during that time, yet nothing has happened.

And what did he say? He said there was no TOS violation and he asked us ALL to keep it constructive. He was talking to you too.

[no name 1]

Going forward, I'd like to see:

- invisibility as last result. It is big brother & unneccessary unless racist, threatening, etc.

- warnings to chill out

- consistency in which posts get censored

- less bias

-If a threadmust be name changed, say why. This thread had no business being renamed, or moved.

I do appreciate your work, mods!

I have to say, devilette, I agree with this post entirely!

[Mags 112]

TO EVERYONE: Stay on topic and lets make this a constructive conversation. If you want a side bar take it to PM please. No attcking each other, no digging up the past. This post was doing great and getting some constructive new ideas so lets keep it on topic please .

Seriously, this is what I'm talking about. The ADMIN & mods are in this topic, yet Joe has been allowed to go on & on & insult?

He did three posts in the space of about 5 minutes. We are not superhuman, we do not have the ability to type at 2000 wpm! I'm not sitting here monitoring this thread.

You are all for leaving posts visible. Are you now saying that you feel these posts SHOULD be made invisible?

Capn replied twice about it during that time, yet nothing has happened.

That's not what I asked you, D. I asked you about your opinion regarding the posts and making them invisible.