UK posts being made invisible

[Aniomaman 0]

I would think a lot of people on here have better things to than all this bickering....this is all really childish to say the least but then as one member said....it does make for a good read

Edited June 23, 2007 by Justchillin

[PlatyPius 5]

And it you posted in the same thread, 35 minutes after his post, as well, hardly 2 hours.

We have a winner!

She said "2 hours" to see who would be ####### enough to actually check and then smugly comment on it.

Thanks for playing.

[no name 1]

And it you posted in the same thread, 35 minutes after his post, as well, hardly 2 hours.

We have a winner!

She said "2 hours" to see who would be ####### enough to actually check and then smugly comment on it.

Thanks for playing.

Selective reading (& answering) should not be what a mod does. It's not hard to see it's 35 minutes, as she posted on the same page as yours.

Grow up.

[Mags 112]

And it you posted in the same thread, 35 minutes after his post, as well, hardly 2 hours.

We have a winner!

She said "2 hours" to see who would be ####### enough to actually check and then smugly comment on it.

Thanks for playing.

Selective reading (& answering) should not be what a mod does. It's not hard to see it's 35 minutes, as she posted on the same page as yours.

Grow up.

Okay, the pair of you stop. You are achieving nothing by this petty behaviour.

D ~ I was mistaken, it seemed longer. I'm very busy off line at the moment and lose track of time. It is hardly a reason for you to drag me over hot coals constantly.

P ~ Stop the baiting. Add something useful to this thread, otherwise I suggest you avoid this topic for now.

Thanks.

Edited June 23, 2007 by mags

[Dr_LHA 3]

Yes, thank you. That was the example of the sort of modding that works mags! Locking the thread for a period to allow a cooling off works much better than trying to re-write the thread into something it wasn't by censoring posts.

[TracyTN 237]

Despite the fact that it goes against something Ewok said in the thread earlier, I think this should be closed.

My internet was down last night, so I left work thinking this thread may be a way for the mods to get some good ideas about certain topics going forward. I come back today and find it has deteriorated into this. Its serving no purpose now except for people to show who they don't like and why they don't like them.

[Mags 112]

Despite the fact that it goes against something Ewok said in the thread earlier, I think this should be closed.

My internet was down last night, so I left work thinking this thread may be a way for the mods to get some good ideas about certain topics going forward. I come back today and find it has deteriorated into this. Its serving no purpose now except for people to show who they don't like and why they don't like them.

I see your point, Tracy. I locked this thread temporarily this morning as a calming measure and I'm hoping that, now everyone has had a chance to take a breath, we can get back on track!

[mRx 16]

What I am thinking is that when a post is set invisible (like can be done now) a place holder is put in its place that indicates that the text has been hidden versus totally not being visible. In place of the original message text would be a notice that it was removed by an admin/mod and possibly a reason.

Captain Ewok, I believe that is what has always been done in the pre-moderator days. I remember many times when you had edited posts and typed something like " I love pizza". Then you signed it, so people knew it was removed per TOS violation, and knew that you did it. Problem now is, all the mods are "anonymous", so no one knows who is reading or deleting, and no reason is given for deleted posts. If the mods feel compelled to edit a post, I think a reason should be given, and we should know who performed the edit. It may eliminate some of the "####### just happened?" posts. Just my input, since you we're asking for suggestions.

[RaspberrySwirl 20]

What I am thinking is that when a post is set invisible (like can be done now) a place holder is put in its place that indicates that the text has been hidden versus totally not being visible. In place of the original message text would be a notice that it was removed by an admin/mod and possibly a reason.

Captain Ewok, I believe that is what has always been done in the pre-moderator days. I remember many times when you had edited posts and typed something like " I love pizza". Then you signed it, so people knew it was removed per TOS violation, and knew that you did it. Problem now is, all the mods are "anonymous", so no one knows who is reading or deleting, and no reason is given for deleted posts. If the mods feel compelled to edit a post, I think a reason should be given, and we should know who performed the edit. It may eliminate some of the "####### just happened?" posts. Just my input, since you we're asking for suggestions.

Party pooper, we were discussing hats, here.

Yeah, I don't see why that's not possible currently. But I do see where Ewok's coming from, knowing what happened with the previous batch of mods a few years back.

But you have to realize, VJ is a different place and our mods now are different peeps, Captain.

I'm not for making posts invisible; it's just confusing when, as someone who isn't on here 24/7, catching up with a thread and then having to read two other threads to find out what the heck's going on.

[MichelleandCraig 1]

Just as I stated with the organizers a while back, I don't think the mods should *have to* acknowledge which one of them did what to anyone. It only opens them up even further for backlash..that will happen occasionally anyway since there are only 3 of them, but why make it even worse for them? It's only MY opinion, of course, and I'm more than happy to go with the flow whatever happens. Lisa and I have been known to disagree on the odd occasion but I agreed with her last post on this particular part of things wholeheartedly....we hope for certain things to happen/not to happen, but in the end, this is Captain Ewok's site, and he will do as he sees fit with it. I haven't liked certain things that have happened here recently, others didn't care at all about it, but in the end you just deal and get over it or don't come here...yanno? As to the FBI thing, yeah...I think that is what started a lot of it...and I *love* that site and think Wenchie did/does a fantastic job with it...but I also love VJ and will to continue to come here. In order to do so, I'll do what Cap. says....mods, IMO, with the limited time we've had to "judge" you, I think you're doing a great job. Keep it up! M.

...and no, that's not sucking up...because I rarely do anything that would get me even close to banned....and if I'm ever *that* angry, then I won't be giving a rat's hiney about being banned from a stinkin' message board!!!!

[mRx 16]

Just as I stated with the organizers a while back, I don't think the mods should *have to* acknowledge which one of them did what to anyone. It only opens them up even further for backlash..that will happen occasionally anyway since there are only 3 of them, but why make it even worse for them?

I guess I just don't understand why they should ever be afraid to identify themselves or their actions.

[MichelleandCraig 1]

They shouldn't be afraid to per say...and I do get what you're saying...if you did it, there's a reason, so say so...etc. ...and there's every possibility they wouldn't mind saying what they are doing, why, and by posting it would automatically show *who* they are....and that's fine too, of course..if they want to. It's only my opinion, after all, that they shouldn't have to...Ewok made them mods for their general likeability, fairness and how they acted on the boards before becoming mods...if he trust them, why shouldn't we? I just don't think they should have to justify their every move to anyone/everyone..if they did, that would open everything they did up for questioning and/or "well you did this for such and so, why did you do THIS to me..." you know? We can agree to disagree at any rate... M.

[PlatyPius 5]

What I am thinking is that when a post is set invisible (like can be done now) a place holder is put in its place that indicates that the text has been hidden versus totally not being visible. In place of the original message text would be a notice that it was removed by an admin/mod and possibly a reason.

Captain Ewok, I believe that is what has always been done in the pre-moderator days. I remember many times when you had edited posts and typed something like " I love pizza". Then you signed it, so people knew it was removed per TOS violation, and knew that you did it. Problem now is, all the mods are "anonymous", so no one knows who is reading or deleting, and no reason is given for deleted posts. If the mods feel compelled to edit a post, I think a reason should be given, and we should know who performed the edit. It may eliminate some of the "####### just happened?" posts. Just my input, since you we're asking for suggestions.

1) Posts are not "deleted". Mods cannot do that. They can only make them invisible.

2) Mods cannot edit posts. At all. When Ewok would delete a post and leave his little messages, he was editing the post - hence the "edited by:" line. He can edit posts, since he's an administrator. Mods cannot.

3) Ergo, the only way for a Mod to leave some notification that he/she has "invisibled" a post is to post a new reply. If the post that was hidden is on page 3 and the new reply from the Mod is on page 6, it ain't gonna make a lot of sense to people, is it?

4) I think the only way to keep the Mods doing what they do is to give them some level of invisibility. Y'all have seen the amount of ####### that Mags just took. Why would the Mods WANT to expose themselves to judgement and sentencing by the crowd?

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

4) I think the only way to keep the Mods doing what they do is to give them some level of invisibility. Y'all have seen the amount of ####### that Mags just took. Why would the Mods WANT to expose themselves to judgement and sentencing by the crowd?

mags and lal, not seen yodrak get any gried directly yet. i've read all of the accusations and grief leveled at the mods, and lal and mags have lots of patience

[Dr_LHA 3]

1) Posts are not "deleted". Mods cannot do that. They can only make them invisible.

What is the difference, out of interest? If the post is never made visible again, then its the same as deleting to the reader, no?