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12 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

The K1 bashing is coming from people like me that actually used the K1, that's why we don't recommend it, we're not bigoted against the K1 or anything like that. 

Sure I understand that. There are some pretty major disadvantages of the K1. My frustration from this site comes from many times when someone asks about the K1, some people automatically reply about how much it sucks, when each couple has their own circumstances and priorities.

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9 minutes ago, lucardo3 said:

Unfortunately, Change org petititons are known as not being effective.

Let me have this hope 🥺 

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15 hours ago, J&A1234 said:

I mean different people have different circumstances..... I get the CR1 has big advantages, especially during the pandemic, but the amount of K1 bashing I see on this site can be discouraging 

 

34 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

The K1 bashing is coming from people like me that actually used the K1, that's why we don't recommend it, we're not bigoted against the K1 or anything like that. 

Agree with @Orangesapples. I did the K1 with no major problems at all. But I would not refer it as a first choice. For some people the K1 is better. But we see way too often people choose it incorrectly.

 

There even were recent threads about people coming on a K1 and wanting to know about working or going back home right away. 

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2 hours ago, lucardo3 said:

Because it is the Nation of Immigrants. We need to remember that and remind everyone who forgets.

It is a nation made from descendents of immigrants. Not a nation of immigrants. 

 

There is a HUGE difference.

 

The mere definition of an immigrant is someone born in another country but migrates to another.

 

I was born here and several generations of my family were born here. So the immigrant side of us were removed centuries ago.

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2 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

It is a nation made from descendents of immigrants. Not a nation of immigrants. 

 

There is a HUGE difference.

Eventually we are on the same page: 

 

Here is a good read :

 

https://www.americanheritage.com/nation-immigrants

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18 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

It is a nation made from descendents of immigrants. Not a nation of immigrants. 

 

There is a HUGE difference.

 

The mere definition of an immigrant is someone born in another country but migrates to another.

 

I was born here and several generations of my family were born here. So the immigrant side of us were removed centuries ago.

I understand your point however USA, by far has the most immigrants in the world. This definitely makes "the Nation of Immigrants" title a valid one.

 

 the United States has the highest number of immigrants (foreign-born individuals), with 48 million in 2015, five times more than in Saudi Arabia (11 million) and six times more than in Canada (7.6 million) .

 

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/which-countries-have-the-most-immigrants-51048ff1f9/

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16 minutes ago, lucardo3 said:

Eventually we are on the same page: 

 

Here is a good read :

 

https://www.americanheritage.com/nation-immigrants

I'm not arguing the immigrant side of it at all. Just clarifying the technicality of the statement. I have seen first hand how deep it can get. There is a very deep rabbit hole you can fall into when discussing American history and immigration. One topic of contention is how a group of people weren't even considered immigrants, but property (slaves). Even after slavery ended many were not given their due rights as a human. It is one of the reasons birthright citizenship was implemented in the Constitution. 

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4 minutes ago, lucardo3 said:

I understand your point however USA, by far has the most immigrants in the world. This definitely makes "the Nation of Immigrants" title a valid one.

 

 the United States has the highest number of immigrants (foreign-born individuals), with 48 million in 2015, five times more than in Saudi Arabia (11 million) and six times more than in Canada (7.6 million) .

 

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/which-countries-have-the-most-immigrants-51048ff1f9/

That is true. And I am also not arguing that. But make sure that this point is clarified in the "Nation of Immigrants" argument. I have heard the statement referring to all Americans as immigrants because of the county's history.

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9 hours ago, SoSol said:

When we made our decision for the K1 it was around the same time frame. 

K1 8-9 months arrival + 7 - 9 month AOS for green card. 

CR1 14-18 months arrival with Green Card.

We took the quickest path of arrival. 

 

Thats is so true! We couldn’t didnt have a chance to get married. Plus our son is in the states now. Because of covid he couldn’t come back. The most important reason for me is to get there asap for my fiancé and our son. If i can stay with them and wait for a green card there, its not a problem. I can wait for years, i just want to be with them

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2 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

I had a similar experience living in suburban hell... The solution was to move out to a more urban area and to learn how to drive. I still miss real urban life but I didn't have to stay in suburban hell to be with my husband. 

 

And the culture shock is way worse with a K1. Having a job makes things much, much better. 

To counter this some people love suburban life. My husband was from a city /walked everywhere and hates cities - he loves where we live and coming in the winter there was no way he would have gone walking About if we lived in a city. Culture shock will happen whether it’s CR1 or K1. Also for some there is no way they’d be able to work when the enter the US. When English isn’t your first language, you’ve never been in a grocery store before, seen a highway, used a vacuum gosh even had 24/7 electricity there’s no doubt the US will be a culture shock. I could go on- it took a LONG time for him to be accustomed to US life. For some the time between arrival and EAD is a time to adjust. Now if you were coming from the UK, Canada, Australia etc it wouldn’t be the same experience as someone who comes from an impoverished country.

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Well as of now, I can’t even apply for a CR1 because I’m not married. Borders are closed, my country isn’t letting people out, and unmarried persons can’t come in. 
 

So the only thing I can apply for is K1. 
 

sure, if my borders opened, I’d get married and do CR1. But they aren’t opening. 

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30 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

To counter this some people love suburban life. My husband was from a city /walked everywhere and hates cities - he loves where we live and coming in the winter there was no way he would have gone walking About if we lived in a city. Culture shock will happen whether it’s CR1 or K1. Also for some there is no way they’d be able to work when the enter the US. When English isn’t your first language, you’ve never been in a grocery store before, seen a highway, used a vacuum gosh even had 24/7 electricity there’s no doubt the US will be a culture shock. I could go on- it took a LONG time for him to be accustomed to US life. For some the time between arrival and EAD is a time to adjust. Now if you were coming from the UK, Canada, Australia etc it wouldn’t be the same experience as someone who comes from an impoverished country.

All I'm saying is, initial culture shock is not a reason to give up on the relationship, there are ways to work around it. And the first few months are the toughest, culture shock is serious even if you come from a non impoverished country and you are well familiar with grocery stores, vacuums and electricity. 

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3 hours ago, Scandi said:

Also seems like some people believe the K-1 visa is a "try before buy" visa. 

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that, especially within this thread!

I don't think shows like 90 day fiance helps with the mindset. Even though you're required to write a "yes I'll marry this person" letter, it seems like a lot of people want to test run the relationship in a more "real" setting at home by using the visa.

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27 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

All I'm saying is, initial culture shock is not a reason to give up on the relationship, there are ways to work around it. And the first few months are the toughest, culture shock is serious even if you come from a non impoverished country and you are well familiar with grocery stores, vacuums and electricity. 

Oh yeah of course. If a relationship is to work these things are to be worked through not to run away and go back home.

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25 minutes ago, Ash. said:

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that, especially within this thread!

I don't think shows like 90 day fiance helps with the mindset. Even though you're required to write a "yes I'll marry this person" letter, it seems like a lot of people want to test run the relationship in a more "real" setting at home by using the visa.

And it's not a good test anyway since the immigrant is going through a culture shock and doesn't have her own friends and social circle, cannot start working, often cannot even get a driver's license and the USC is going to work like normal. It's a very different dynamic from when you're actually accustomed to the new country and have your own social life.