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10 hours ago, laylalex said:

Developing story -- it's unclear right now that the shooting was connected. I saw an AP headline to that effect. 

 

The indictment was pathetic imo. 

How so?

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6 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Mayor Ted is really a joke.  Hatred has no place in Portland?  What has been going on there since late May?

Hatred he agrees with.

 

4 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

How so?

Honestly, they should've charged the cop with murder so they'd have just been released. Was obviously not murder, but I say lets give the emotional people (I see them up and down social media right now) what they want, even though there's no chance a conviction happens as it was clearly not a premeditated nor deliberate act of killing her. Clearly they'd rather the cop go free so they can peddle this victimhood angle rather than spend many years behind bars for an actual crime they might have committed.

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3 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Hatred he agrees with.

 

Honestly, they should've charged the cop with murder so they'd have just been released. Was obviously not murder, but I say lets give the emotional people (I see them up and down social media right now) what they want, even though there's no chance a conviction happens as it was clearly not a premeditated nor deliberate act of killing her. Clearly they'd rather the cop go free to peddle this victimhood angle. 

So if the police were charges and walked free later, wouldn't that just be kicking the can down the road?  Some might think tensions would be less in a few months to a year, but the BLM/Antifa groups and their ignorant influencer sheep would inflame those tensions in a heartbeat.

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27 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So if the police were charges and walked free later, wouldn't that just be kicking the can down the road?  Some might think tensions would be less in a few months to a year, but the BLM/Antifa groups and their ignorant influencer sheep would inflame those tensions in a heartbeat.

Doesn't matter to me, they're gonna do what they do. If they want to charge the guy with an actual crime he might have committed, he stands a good chance of being behind bars for a handful of years. If they wanna stupidly try for murder, he's gonna walk. I don't really care about strategically thinking about what the Marxists are gonna do, if people really wanna push for murder this hard, go ahead, and watch the guy walk. 

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1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Doesn't matter to me, they're gonna do what they do. If they want to charge the guy with an actual crime he might have committed, he stands a good chance of being behind bars for a handful of years. If they wanna stupidly try for murder, he's gonna walk. I don't really care about strategically thinking about what the Marxists are gonna do, if people really wanna push for murder this hard, go ahead, and watch the guy walk. 

I completely agree.  Nothing short of stringing these three police officers up would placate the mob.  As you said, they are Marxist, they have no respect for the Judicial system of this country, nor the governmental structure and want nothing less than a full implementation of some version of Marxism/Leninism/Cubaism.

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12 hours ago, laylalex said:

Developing story -- it's unclear right now that the shooting was connected. I saw an AP headline to that effect. 

 

The indictment was pathetic imo. 

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On 9/22/2020 at 6:37 PM, JoBri said:

 To those who are protesting: You can thank my wife, the wounded warriors, law enforcement and President Trump that you still have the right to do so.

im not a protestor but dont you mean we can thank the constitution? 😂

 

i was with you up until all the self-righteousness/blatant sycophancy 😂

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13 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Thats what i just discovered. I dont see the big deal other than its a tragedy a good decent human died needlessly.  Had nothing to do with race. Results would have been the same had they been white 

Not tryna disparage Breonna Taylor, but if you go back and watch the video I posted, you will learn more about her.  She was an EMT for about 5 months, and various reports declare she resigned, some say she was let go.  All agree that the "do not rehire" box was checked.  (Not that any of this matters, really)  

 

The part that makes her less of a victim in my mind is that she got a call from a drug dealer in prison requesting that she take Walker into her apartment to "get him off the streets".  When you live with/deal with/have close contact with known drug dealers, you are liable to get caught up in the fallout.  It's very similar to not following instructions when the police tell you to do something.  Usually doesn't end well.  I feel she is a victim of her own personal choices.  Not murder, and no "racism" involved.

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15 minutes ago, kumbaya said:

im not a protestor but dont you mean we can thank the constitution? 😂

 

i was with you up until all the self-righteousness/blatant sycophancy 😂

The constitution is simply a document.  The people who enforce that document deserve our thanks, daily.

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7 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

The constitution is simply a document.  The people who enforce that document deserve our thanks, daily.

 

 

we are all thanked for doing the jobs we chose to do with the paychecks we receive. if someone does not want a job, then dont take it and find another job.

 

daily praise for your personal choices is cultish

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32 minutes ago, kumbaya said:

im not a protestor but dont you mean we can thank the constitution? 😂

 

i was with you up until all the self-righteousness/blatant sycophancy 😂

 

9 minutes ago, kumbaya said:

 we are all thanked for doing the jobs we chose to do with the paychecks we receive. if someone does not want a job, then dont take it and find another job.

 

daily praise for your personal choices is cultish

The constitution is indeed only a document, but what gives meaning to it is the people that put down their lives to protect what it means. For the police, it really isn't their job to sacrifice their lives, nor to take society's garbage that's coming from institutions like mayors, council members, and politicians in general.

 

Relating the constitution to the job example, what gives meaning to a job isn't the written SOP/policies of the company but the person that takes the job seriously enough to excel beyond the written minimal expectations. Our society clearly expects police to do that.. and the result is, they get praise beyond what people working other jobs get. They are, in fact, human, and do screw up, and they do have limitations on what they can take. There are indeed bad ones, and much like people hate their boss, people also hate other authority.

 

So no, we don't "thank the constitution", marxists and these local politicians having police stand down, releasing them immediately to burn down more buildings and attack others, demonstrate its utter uselessness when its not respected. The only thing that sounded cultish was that argument, and it gave me the wuhan wheezer. 

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6 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

 

The constitution is indeed only a document, but what gives meaning to it is the people that put down their lives to protect what it means. For the police, it really isn't their job to sacrifice their lives, nor to take society's garbage that's coming from institutions like mayors, council members, and politicians in general.

 

Relating the constitution to the job example, what gives meaning to a job isn't the written SOP/policies of the company but the person that takes the job seriously enough to excel beyond the written minimal expectations. Our society clearly expects police to do that.. and the result is, they get praise beyond what people working other jobs get. They are, in fact, human, and do screw up, and they do have limitations on what they can take. There are indeed bad ones, and much like people hate their boss, people also hate other authority.

 

So no, we don't "thank the constitution", marxists and these local politicians having police stand down, releasing them immediately to burn down more buildings and attack others, demonstrate its utter uselessness when its not respected. The only thing that sounded cultish was that argument, and it gave me the wuhan wheezer. 

point blank, if you sign up for something by your own free will, that is your decision. your paycheck is your reward.

 

the taxes we pay that funds the paychecks is a daily thanks in an of itself, esp for military and police.

 

requiring daily allegiance and praise to the state and its offices is actually peak marxism/communism (ie. china, north korea, etc)

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point blank, if you sign up for something by your own free will, that is your decision. your paycheck is your reward.

 

the taxes we pay that funds the paychecks is a daily thanks in an of itself, esp for military and police.

 

requiring daily allegiance and praise to the state and its offices is actually peak marxism/communism (ie. china, north korea, etc)

Lie. These high taxing local jurisdictions are trashing their police, refusing to enforce the law, letting criminals rioting go instantly to commit further crimes, I don't see them suggesting to lower people's taxes on top of their pathetic abdication of their authority to ensure safety of their jurisdictions.

 

Actually marxism is praise of the state and its representative personification of the "collective", not merely those serving the country specifically (police, military). Notice how the "praise" is levied to people who actually are far more useful to a functional society. Police are not held to a standard, in their pre-employment screenings, nor their conduct, just as any other worker, so comparing them to such is simply a lie, one you need to tell to justify denigrating those who actually make that document you cited have any meaning. Interestingly enough it sounds exactly like the kind of stuff these very marxists and their supporters say.

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2 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Lie. These high taxing local jurisdictions are trashing their police, refusing to enforce the law, letting criminals rioting go instantly to commit further crimes, I don't see them suggesting to lower people's taxes on top of their pathetic abdication of their authority to ensure safety of their jurisdictions.

 

Actually marxism is praise of the state and its representative personification of the "collective", not merely those serving the country specifically (police, military). Notice how the "praise" is levied to people who actually are far more useful to a functional society. Police are not held to a standard, in their pre-employment screenings, nor their conduct, just as any other worker, so comparing them to such is simply a lie, one you need to tell to justify denigrating those who actually make that document you cited have any meaning. Interestingly enough it sounds exactly like the kind of stuff these very marxists and their supporters say.

 

 

i would love for my taxes to be lowered, as im sure much of it goes to helping fly over states (socialism) rather than any state/city ive lived and paid taxes in (nyc, dc and cali) nyc is one of the safest places in america/the world, even during protests/"riots". would choose nyc over st. louis, memphis, jacksonville, baton rouge, any day. the law is being enforced, just not in an overtly authoritarian way. and if its not being enforced as you claim, id say people are doing a great job of governing themselves them

 

and i was speaking about the marxist theory that states there will be civil unrest when police/army are valued more than every other citizen who has chosen their job, which exactly what america is going through and which you exhibit by agreeing they need daily praise. i also notice you did not mention communism. perhaps because we all know communist armies/police are beholden to the state and speaking out against state backed police/military that follows the states orders is is still not allowed by the state

 

in capitalism we all choose our jobs and the reward we receive is pay on a scale. we are not born into or relegated to certain professions. we know the risks, duties. expectations, etc. associated and we choose which career we think will provide us the most benefits in society. free college, health services, etc are the many ways in which all of us inadvertently thank the military already. im big on capitalism, if a company fails, let it. social security is a boomer scam/ponzi, etc. i love the stock market. not being authoritarian !== someone being a marxist lol do you know what marxism is? lol

 

making the constitutional a political/partisan document ruins it. bc just as there are veterans/police who moved from 'kapernick kneeling is disrespect to the flag' to ' why cant you all peacefully protest?' there are veterans/police who believe police brutality/militarization is a real issue as well, who see nothing wrong with protests, who think police help incite violence at protests, etc. my father was one of them.

 

the constitution does not need anyone credentials on either side of the things to make it just. all of the military, police, etc. are just as replaceable as with any worker in capitalism. its not like our military/police are full of people who would have otherwise cured cancer lol.

 

 

 

 

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