Nationwide riot megathread

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2 hours ago, Boiler said:

It was however a mainly peaceful event.

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

And that event and the far right idiots were soundly rejected by the President.  I have yet to hear Old Joe reject Antifa, or the BLM organization which are just as bad hate groups as those on the far right.  Heck, Senator Kamala Harris expressed her overwhelming support for Jacob Blake an accused rapist.  I guess her support for the #metoo movement is another flip/flop on her part.

 

Ms. Harris offered her support Monday for Mr. Blake, 29, who remains hospitalized after being shot in the back by an officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, speaking with him by phone and visiting with several of his relatives and attorneys at Mitchell International Airport in Milwaukee.

She later called the meeting “really wonderful,” adding that she wanted to “express concern for their well-being and of course, for their brother and their son’s well-being, and to let them know that they have support.”

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/8/kamala-harris-support-jacob-blake-calls-metoo-cred/

I wasn't mentioning the president at all with my comments. I was addressing the Breitbart article that minimized the violence that occured in Charlotte.

The majority of Americans do not view the BLM movement as a hate group. They also don't oppose peaceful protest or demonstration.

What they don't want to see is arson, looting and weapons used in the street.  If I watch some Fox programing, it all blends into one narrative, people are smarter than that.

 

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4 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

I wasn't mentioning the president at all with my comments. I was addressing the Breitbart article that minimized the violence that occured in Charlotte.

The majority of Americans do not view the BLM movement as a hate group. They also don't oppose peaceful protest or demonstration.

What they don't want to see is arson, looting and weapons used in the street.  If I watch some Fox programing, it all blends into one narrative, people are smarter than that.

 

Where is your proof that most Americans don't look at the BLM organization as a hate group?  Anyone that does any research on this group will see that they are not a Civil Rights group, but rather a group intent on transforming the US into their version of a Marxist country.  Most folks know that Marxism in any form does not work, and the fact that the BLM organization is using some very violent methods to get their message out is really starting to come to light.  Of course if one only watches CNN one would not know how violent they actually are.  Peaceful protests are just fine, and I fully support those, but that is not what is happening.

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It's a very mixed picture right now, and not completely clear, if you look at all the latest polls. Now we all know polls are polls, but they are better than our own anecdotal experiences and preferences. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-law-and-order-message-isnt-resonating-with-most-americans/

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6 minutes ago, laylalex said:

It's a very mixed picture right now, and not completely clear, if you look at all the latest polls. Now we all know polls are polls, but they are better than our own anecdotal experiences and preferences. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-law-and-order-message-isnt-resonating-with-most-americans/

Interesting change in attitude.  Sort of within the margin of error now between "peaceful" and "violent".

 

This week’s survey from The Economist/YouGov found that 41 percent of Americans considered the protesters themselves “mostly peaceful,” while 40 percent said they were “mostly violent.” This marked a sizable departure from early July, when the pollster last asked this question — back then, 54 percent viewed the protesters as more peaceful, while only 31 percent viewed them as more violent. And late last week, a Yahoo News/YouGov survey found that a majority of Americans — 54 percent — thought the protests had gone too far, compared with 31 percent who said that they hadn’t.

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Mostly "xxxx"... blah blah.

 

It's very simple.  Shut down the ones that ARE violent, arrest those creating unrest, and the message that the actual protesters are intending to put out may reach the intended audience(s).  The majority of Americans will support peaceful protest, I am sure.  But the violence, burning, rioting, etc. hurts everyone.

 

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3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Where is your proof that most Americans don't look at the BLM organization as a hate group? 

Go ahead and show your proof, majority is a 50/50 proposition.

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

 

Anyone that does any research on this group will see that they are not a Civil Rights group, but rather a group intent on transforming the US into their version of a Marxist country. 

Anyone that does any research? In your opinion then.

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

 

 

Most folks know that Marxism in any form does not work, and the fact that the BLM organization is using some very violent methods to get their message out is really starting to come to light. 

I have seen protestors (anarchists IMO) who claim to be against or for BLM goals on the streets bringing violence and mayhem. I doubt they truly have the mission they profess.  

 

I have not seen the BLM organization advocate breaking any laws or bones.

 

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

 

 

Of course if one only watches CNN one would not know how violent they actually are.  Peaceful protests are just fine, and I fully support those, but that is not what is happening.

 

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6 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Go ahead and show your proof, majority is a 50/50 proposition.

Anyone that does any research? In your opinion then.

I have seen protestors (anarchists IMO) who claim to be against or for BLM goals on the streets bringing violence and mayhem. I doubt they truly have the mission they profess.  

 

I have not seen the BLM organization advocate breaking any laws or bones.

 

 

You are the one that asserted most people don’t consider the BLM organization a hate group.  I guess that is just an opinion as well.

 

If you believe Marxism is better than regulated capitalism, I would like to hear of a success story?

 

What is clear is that the BLM organization is not for what it professes to advocating.  The statistics are clear, and their message is clearly political and has nothing to do with civil rights,  it believe what you want.

 

When people see the BLM rioters assaulting people on the street trying to enjoy a meal and trying to force a political opinion through violence it will become clearer and clearer.

Edited September 9, 2020 by Dashinka

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5 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Go ahead and show your proof, majority is a 50/50 proposition.

Anyone that does any research? In your opinion then.

I have seen protestors (anarchists IMO) who claim to be against or for BLM goals on the streets bringing violence and mayhem. I doubt they truly have the mission they profess.  

 

I have not seen the BLM organization advocate breaking any laws or bones.

 

 

BLM leader: If change doesn’t happen, then ‘we will burn down this system’

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-leader-if-change-doesnt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/

 

I could post these all day.

 

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19 minutes ago, Boiler said:

BLM leader: If change doesn’t happen, then ‘we will burn down this system’

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-leader-if-change-doesnt-happen-we-will-burn-down-this-system/

 

I could post these all day.

 

What copy/paste?

 

In a statement released on June 25, 2020, Kailee Scales, described as the Managing Director of BLM Global Network, said:

Hawk Newsome has no relation to the Black Lives Matter Global Network (“BLM”) founded by Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza, and Opal Tometi — and is not the “president” of BLM or any of its chapters.^[1]

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41 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

You are the one that asserted most people don’t consider the BLM organization a hate group.  I guess that is just an opinion as well.

You are the one that said they were a hate group and then you posted an article with a link to the survey that shows 50% of Americans viewed  BLM as somewhat or very favorably on  Aug 28th. So either most Americans are in favor of left wing ,marxist, violent radical hate groups or they don't share your perception of the group.

 

 

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If you believe Marxism is better than regulated capitalism, I would like to hear of a success story?

 

What is clear is that the BLM organization is not for what it professes to advocating.  The statistics are clear, and their message is clearly political and has nothing to do with civil rights,  it believe what you want.

 

When people see the BLM rioters assaulting people on the street trying to enjoy a meal and trying to force a political opinion through violence it will become clearer and clearer.

 

Edited September 9, 2020 by CanAm1980

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3 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

You are the one that said they were a hate group and then you posted an article with a link to the survey that shows 50% of Americans viewed  BLM as somewhat or very favorably on  Aug 28th. So either most Americans are in favor of left wing ,marxist, violent radical hate groups or they don't share your perception of the group.

 

 

 

You clearly stated the majority of Americans as a hate group or in my opinion a violent group.  The poll posted by @laylalex showed a definite split almost 50/50 within the margin of error which is clearly not a majority.

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11 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

You clearly stated the majority of Americans as a hate group or in my opinion a violent group.  The poll posted by @laylalex showed a definite split almost 50/50 within the margin of error which is clearly not a majority.

Okay layla posted and you quoted to make a point, whatever. 

 

So do you project that out the other 49.9999% who are undecided or view the group unfavourably, every single one of those folks would agree with the statement that "BLM is a hate group? "

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3 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Okay layla posted and you quoted to make a point, whatever. 

 

So do you project that out the other 49.9999% who are undecided or view the group unfavourably, every single one of those folks would agree with the statement that "BLM is a hate group? "

It is certainly getting that way with their new tactics of terrorizing innocent people trying to live their lives in peace.  I am sure you would be fine sitting down for a meal only to be assaulted for no reason.