I-693 Deficiency Notice, but DS 3025 is complete, correct, and current (attached). Do we actually need 693?

[Mark11 36]

Hi Everyone,

 

We submitted the 485 packet in June 2020.  Included was the  DS-3025 completed in January 2020.  According to the excellent pinned post embedded below regarding when you actually need the additional I-693 and when the DS 3025 is truly complete and sufficient, it seemed that a 693 was not necessary.  I have attached the DS-3025 for anyone who would be willing to review my analysis for completeness.  However, we just received a yellow "I-693 Deficiency Notice" saying that if an AOS interview is granted, a complete I-693 will need to be brought to the interview, and if an interview is not required, then an RFE for the I-693 will be sent out.  The notice also explicitly states not to mail in additional information.  So, as I said, my analysis indicates that the attached DS-3025 meets all the requirements (please double check me if you have time) and the I-693 shouldn't be needed. All shots are up to date and dated,  waiver rows are filled in with the correct waiver codes, Section 2 is marked correctly, and the form is signed and dated.  Plus this is the Consulate-designated physician in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil who is extremely experienced with the AOS process and is fully fluent in English.  He seemed to know the full AOS process, regarding the medical and vaccines.   But . .  .  I recall several VJ'ers saying in past posts they received similar notices and simple ignored it and took the DS-3025 with them to interview and things were fine.  Looking for advice from those who have been through this similar situation.  Thanks everyone.

DS 3025 .pdf

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Mark11

[Sandyl 128]

Hi!

Im preparing for my interview now and I sent my DS3025 to the USCIS in my AOS package. I forgot to copy this form myself and now I need the whole entire medical examination again. You do need the I-693 for the interview. Usually it seems if you still have the DS3025 and your vaccination report that they will just sign the I-693 or do something with it. This is what the surgeon told me.

[Mark11 36]

All,

 

I just copied these from the current I-693 instructions, and they duplicate the material in Nich-Nick's pinned post.  It seems to clearly state that if you have your medical exam within one year of the 485 AND your DS-3025 is filled out correctly, then no I-693 is needed.

 

3. What if I am a K nonimmigrant visa holder and already had a medical examination overseas?
If you were admitted as a:
      A. K-1 fiancé(e) or a K-2 child of a K-1 fiancé(e); or
      B. K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen or a K-4 child of a K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen; and
       C. You received a medical examination prior to admission, then:
           (1) You are not required to have another medical examination as long as you file your Form I-485 within one year
           of an overseas medical examination; and
                 (a) The panel physician did not find a class A medical condition during your overseas examination; or
                 (b) The panel physician did find a class A medical condition, you received a waiver of inadmissibility, and
                 you have complied with the terms and conditions of the waiver.
          (2) Even if a new medical examination is not required, you must still show proof that you complied with the
          vaccination requirements. If the vaccination record (DS 3025) was not properly completed and included as
          part of the original overseas medical examination report, you will need to have the Part 10. Vaccination
        Record completed by a designated civil surgeon. In this case, you must submit Parts 1. - 5., 7., and 10.
         of Form I-693.

 

--Mark and Sandra

[Sandyl 128]

5 minutes ago, Mark11 said:

All,

 

I just copied these from the current I-693 instructions, and they duplicate the material in Nich-Nick's pinned post.  It seems to clearly state that if you have your medical exam within one year of the 485 AND your DS-3025 is filled out correctly, then no I-693 is needed.

 

3. What if I am a K nonimmigrant visa holder and already had a medical examination overseas?
If you were admitted as a:
      A. K-1 fiancé(e) or a K-2 child of a K-1 fiancé(e); or
      B. K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen or a K-4 child of a K-3 spouse of a U.S. citizen; and
       C. You received a medical examination prior to admission, then:
           (1) You are not required to have another medical examination as long as you file your Form I-485 within one year
           of an overseas medical examination; and
                 (a) The panel physician did not find a class A medical condition during your overseas examination; or
                 (b) The panel physician did find a class A medical condition, you received a waiver of inadmissibility, and
                 you have complied with the terms and conditions of the waiver.
          (2) Even if a new medical examination is not required, you must still show proof that you complied with the
          vaccination requirements. If the vaccination record (DS 3025) was not properly completed and included as
          part of the original overseas medical examination report, you will need to have the Part 10. Vaccination
        Record completed by a designated civil surgeon. In this case, you must submit Parts 1. - 5., 7., and 10.
         of Form I-693.

 

--Mark and Sandra

Guess that means we’ll just have to wait for the interview notice and see what they ask for documents. Uscis told me I would have to submit a I-693 even when I submitted the DS3025.

[Ayrton 965]

2 hours ago, Mark11 said:

Hi Everyone,

 

We submitted the 485 packet in June 2020.  Included was the  DS-3025 completed in January 2020.  According to the excellent pinned post embedded below regarding when you actually need the additional I-693 and when the DS 3025 is truly complete and sufficient, it seemed that a 693 was not necessary.  I have attached the DS-3025 for anyone who would be willing to review my analysis for completeness.  However, we just received a yellow "I-693 Deficiency Notice" saying that if an AOS interview is granted, a complete I-693 will need to be brought to the interview, and if an interview is not required, then an RFE for the I-693 will be sent out.  The notice also explicitly states not to mail in additional information.  So, as I said, my analysis indicates that the attached DS-3025 meets all the requirements (please double check me if you have time) and the I-693 shouldn't be needed. All shots are up to date and dated,  waiver rows are filled in with the correct waiver codes, Section 2 is marked correctly, and the form is signed and dated.  Plus this is the Consulate-designated physician in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil who is extremely experienced with the AOS process and is fully fluent in English.  He seemed to know the full AOS process, regarding the medical and vaccines.   But . .  .  I recall several VJ'ers saying in past posts they received similar notices and simple ignored it and took the DS-3025 with them to interview and things were fine.  Looking for advice from those who have been through this similar situation.  Thanks everyone.

DS 3025 .pdf 303.33 kB · 3 downloads

 

Sometimes the officer at NBC send the latter by mistake. It happens. 

 

It doesn't mean you need a new medical as long as you filed within one year and you completed vaccination.

[Sandyl 128]

36 minutes ago, Ayrton said:

Sometimes the officer at NBC send the latter by mistake. It happens. 

 

It doesn't mean you need a new medical as long as you filed within one year and you completed vaccination.

So it is possible that, in my case, I had my medical in October and I’m scheduled for an interview. Just have to receive the letter, that I won’t even have to submit the I693? I sent in the DS3025 but my smart ### forgot to send a copy and I sent the original one.. 

[Letspaintcookies 2,310]

47 minutes ago, Sanella&Dylan said:

So it is possible that, in my case, I had my medical in October and I’m scheduled for an interview. Just have to receive the letter, that I won’t even have to submit the I693? I sent in the DS3025 but my smart ### forgot to send a copy and I sent the original one.. 

Yes you don't have to do a new medical even if you received the letter. For your own sake you could contact the physician where you took your medical and ask for another copy of your DS3025 so you have something on file but that's only to make you feel better 😊

2 hours ago, Sanella&Dylan said:

Guess that means we’ll just have to wait for the interview notice and see what they ask for documents. Uscis told me I would have to submit a I-693 even when I submitted the DS3025.

The letter you'll get is a generic one and not tailored to your case.

[Sandyl 128]

4 minutes ago, Letspaintcookies said:

Yes you don't have to do a new medical even if you received the letter. For your own sake you could contact the physician where you took your medical and ask for another copy of your DS3025 so you have something on file but that's only to make you feel better 😊

The letter you'll get is a generic one and not tailored to your case.

Thank you so much! I was going to call them tomorrow since the time difference in the Netherlands lol. I was like, are you for real Sanella, you really didn’t make a copy of this or even scanned it!? 

[Mark11 36]

Hi Everyone,

 

Did anyone (with AOS experience) have time to look over our DS-3025 (certainly understandable if no one has time) and agree (or disagree) that it's truly complete, and thus no 693 is needed?  It's attached in the first post on this thread.

 

--Mark and Sandra

[Ayrton 965]

1 hour ago, Mark11 said:

Hi Everyone,

 

Did anyone (with AOS experience) have time to look over our DS-3025 (certainly understandable if no one has time) and agree (or disagree) that it's truly complete, and thus no 693 is needed?  It's attached in the first post on this thread.

 

--Mark and Sandra

Is it marked completed?

[payxibka 10,045]

8 hours ago, Mark11 said:

Hi Everyone,

 

Did anyone (with AOS experience) have time to look over our DS-3025 (certainly understandable if no one has time) and agree (or disagree) that it's truly complete, and thus no 693 is needed?  It's attached in the first post on this thread.

 

--Mark and Sandra

Box #2 at the bottom is the critical item.