August 2020 - AOS Filers

[partyintheUSA 86]

29 minutes ago, mbssss said:

I actually think that is exactly what happened. The post office told me that it is possible that they just never scanned it and just delivered it anyway, even though I picked signature confirmation. I'll give it until the end of the week and if I haven't seen anything by then i'll call USCIS and see if I should send in a new one or not 😣

 

 

Tough situation! I agree that you should wait for as long as possible for them to process your package before sending in a second one (and only if USCIS tells you to -- I wouldn't do it without their go ahead).

 

If you end up going with mailing a second package, ironically I would recommend using USPS again, because this is the rule on the fee change:

 

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This final rule is effective Oct. 2, 2020. Any application, petition, or request postmarked on or after this date must include payment of the new, correct fees established by this final rule.

 

From: https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-adjusts-fees-to-help-meet-operational-needs

 

USPS is the only carrier that provides a "postmark"  . FedEx / UPS / DHL cannot. So if you use a non-usps carrier, you'll have to overnight it end of week and cross your fingers that it actually arrives and gets processed by EOD on October 1st. There's usually a couple day lag between arrival and actual processing. You'll be cutting it close.

 

Whereas if you use USPS, you can wait the full 30 days for the original application to post, and then however long the transit time takes as well, for signs of life from your original application. Of course there's always the possibility that some careless lockbox employee doesn't look at the postmark date and rejects anyway, but I think the chance of that happening is lower than getting rejected for a late non-USPS carrier, and you'll have an opportunity to contest it.

 

Hopefully everything posts for you sometime this week/end.Really annoying. (I feel your pain on a much smaller level, USPS has lost my passport for the past 30 days and counting.)

 

 

[mbssss 111]

2 minutes ago, partyintheUSA said:

 

 

Tough situation! I agree that you should wait for as long as possible for them to process your package before sending in a second one (and only if USCIS tells you to -- I wouldn't do it without their go ahead).

 

If you end up going with mailing a second package, ironically I would recommend using USPS again, because this is the rule on the fee change:

 

 

From: https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-adjusts-fees-to-help-meet-operational-needs

 

USPS is the only carrier that provides a "postmark"  . FedEx / UPS / DHL cannot. So if you use a non-usps carrier, you'll have to overnight it end of week and cross your fingers that it actually arrives and gets processed by EOD on October 1st. There's usually a couple day lag between arrival and actual processing. You'll be cutting it close.

 

Whereas if you use USPS, you can wait the full 30 days for the original application to post, and then however long the transit time takes as well, for signs of life from your original application. Of course there's always the possibility that some careless lockbox employee doesn't look at the postmark date and rejects anyway, but I think the chance of that happening is lower than getting rejected for a late non-USPS carrier, and you'll have an opportunity to contest it.

 

Hopefully everything posts for you sometime this week/end.Really annoying. (I feel your pain on a much smaller level, USPS has lost my passport for the past 30 days and counting.)

 

 

That's a really good point actually. I'll consider using USPS again just to minimize the risk. Hopefully they're just taking their time processing my application. I'll have another application ready to go so I can send it off early next week with USPS since it will have been over 30 days at that point. I'll make sure to call USCIS and confirm with them at that point, though.

Thank you. This is just bringing me so much unneccesary anxiety so I hope that i can be resolved soon. I hope you get your passport soon too! 

Spoiler

 

 

[BearxBelle 23]

Just wanted to jump in the convo.

 

AOS filed 8/26

Delivered 8/28

 

Money orders have not been cashed yet. No other information. A bit nervous because sent in the old I-765 but hopeful that only that gets rejected and not the whole thing. Fingers crossed.

[BearxBelle 23]

8 minutes ago, Carolina G said:

It will just be the i765 that gets rejected. But you will have to pay the new fee For that application  as you won’t get to send it back before 10/2

Oh no... I hadn't even thought about that. What a mess.

[Ayrton 965]

44 minutes ago, Carolina G said:

It will just be the i765 that gets rejected. But you will have to pay the new fee For that application  as you won’t get to send it back before 10/2

 

Some people are getting the whole package rejected and not only the expired form. So they will have to wait and see.

 

And no, they won't have to pay for EAD if their AOS was sent before Oct 2nd. Only people that file for AOS after that will have to pay for EAD and AP. Everybody that filed before that can still file for EAD and AP for free, including renewals.

[DanCode7703 20]

Just an update for my case. I received all receipts in my mailbox today (6 days after the payment and text messages).

 

Package delivered: 08/17

Debit card charged: 09/15

Text messages: 09/15

Receipt letter: 09/21

[mbssss 111]

1 hour ago, Ayrton said:

 

Some people are getting the whole package rejected and not only the expired form. So they will have to wait and see.

 

And no, they won't have to pay for EAD if their AOS was sent before Oct 2nd. Only people that file for AOS after that will have to pay for EAD and AP. Everybody that filed before that can still file for EAD and AP for free, including renewals.

Wait, really? I thought you had to pay the new fee if you send in the I-131 and/or the I-765 after then? That's great news though. 

[Ayrton 965]

29 minutes ago, Carolina G said:

Hi Ayrton- where did you read that? I was under the impression after Oct 2nd you have to pay individual fees for i765 and i131 application regardless if you filed the AOS application prior oct 2nd

On the final rule, Table 4. They can't change the requirements for those who filed under the old law. The new fee only applies to people who files for AOS after Oct 2nd.

[LBee1592 17]

On 9/18/2020 at 8:40 AM, Paul & Mary said:

You either get a text of an email even if you put both on the form.   Typically takes a week for us to get notices in Arizona.  I think the notices are printed in Missouri and, as  usual, they are backlogged.  I'd add a day or two more for where you live.

So should I bother calling them or should I just be more patient?

I live in Arizona too and I got my text messages on 09/13 but still no physical notices in the mail, it's been 9 days so I'm a little anxious..

[theflyhigh 63]

Just now, LBee1592 said:

So should I bother calling them or should I just be more patient?

I live in Arizona too and I got my text messages on 09/13 but still no physical notices in the mail, it's been 9 days so I'm a little anxious..

If you check online status it would say "If you don't receive mail by <date>". So better to wait till date.

[LBee1592 17]

5 minutes ago, Geekosnap said:

If you check online status it would say "If you don't receive mail by <date>". So better to wait till date.

Oh yea it says by September 19, that's why I was thinking that maybe I should have contacted them.

 

6 minutes ago, Carolina G said:

Well as long as you know you got your text messages you are fine. People are having delays on receiving their mail notices. It will take some time. They can’t really do anything. Unless you want them to resend. I know people who got their text messages 9/3 and just received their notices last night 

Oh it's actually reassuring so I guess I'm freaking out for nothing lol I'll just keep waiting. Did you get yours by the way yet? 

[theflyhigh 63]

Just now, LBee1592 said:

Oh yea it says by September 19, that's why I was thinking that maybe I should have contacted them.

 

Oh it's actually reassuring so I guess I'm freaking out for nothing lol I'll just keep waiting. Did you get yours by the way yet? 

Well i think in that case you can request them to send a copy again. Good Luck. But since we all know USPS mails are delayed nowadays. You can wait till Friday. You already have receipt numbers and mailed copy doesn't really have anything else in it so i won't go crazy if i get them late.

[Just Paul 4,595]

24 minutes ago, LBee1592 said:

So should I bother calling them or should I just be more patient?

I live in Arizona too and I got my text messages on 09/13 but still no physical notices in the mail, it's been 9 days so I'm a little anxious..

I think it took Mary 3 or 4 weeks to get her paper copy for her ROC NOA.  And then they sent 2 copies.

[Ayrton 965]

On 9/18/2020 at 11:40 AM, Paul & Mary said:

You either get a text of an email even if you put both on the form.   Typically takes a week for us to get notices in Arizona.  I think the notices are printed in Missouri and, as  usual, they are backlogged.  I'd add a day or two more for where you live.

I always received both. All emails go straight to the junk folder though.

[RD7712 143]

For those of of us that have filed AOS in August without sending in Form I-944, looks like we will have to be sending in that form with supporting docs. DHS will now enforce the rule. See below. 

 

Alert: On Sept. 11, 2020, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit issued a decision that allows DHS to resume implementing the Public Charge Ground of Inadmissibility final rule nationwide, including in New York, Connecticut and Vermont. The decision stays the July 29, 2020, injunction, issued during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, that prevented DHS from enforcing the public charge final rule during a national health emergency.

Therefore, we will apply the public charge final rule and related guidance in the USCIS Policy Manual, Volumes 2, 8 and 12, to all applications and petitions postmarked (or submitted electronically) on or after Feb. 24, 2020. If you send your application or petition by commercial courier (for example, UPS, FedEx, or DHL), we will use the date on the courier receipt as the postmark date.

For information about the relevant court decisions, please see the public charge injunction webpage

 

https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-processes-and-procedures/public-charge/injunction-of-the-inadmissibility-on-public-charge-grounds-final-rule