Wife came to the US and left me 3 days later

[Pelmeni 39]

59 minutes ago, geowrian said:

She doesn't need his support to agree to a divorce.

An annulment itself does not change anything immigration-wise. A divorce and annulment are equal to USCIS - they both dissolve a marriage.

If there is a court finding of fraud, that may or may not be something USCIS would consider if they ever reviewed her file.

 

I'm not buying it, at least as described (I'm going to assume there was a lot of other details). CBP cannot "take your green card". They can refer you to an immigration judge if they have reason to suspect grounds for removal, although there would be no need to go through the whole CBP side of things. The same process (NTA -> court hearing) applies whether they do it in the US or at the border. Getting CBP involved is just adding complexity.

Hmmm...I guess she doesn't need his permission but I guess it will take longer if he doesn't help out? Thankfully, I don't have a lot of experience with divorce. I'm thinking of the type of divorce where you don't go to court. You just agree on property and sign off with a notary and an attorney files with the court. That's the shortest and cheapest way. Everything takes longer if you have to go through court. At least there are no children involved. It does sound like the best thing to do is have the papers drawn up and ask her to sign them like 'what was mine is mine and what was yours is yours' kind of thing. If her main thing was to get a green card she will want it done ASAP. It hurts to be played but I think the best thing to do is get it done and then don't even start writing to another girl for at least three years.

Edited July 29, 2020 by Pelmeni

[ZirZai 36]

 

I didn't make that scenario up. It was a very similar situation to the OP's that I had heard off from a family friend and that was how  he said it was handled... 

 

And when it comes to 'obvious fraud' they can make your life miserable when you are at least applying for the citizenship. Just because you don't see the ppl punished come up here in visa journey it doesn't means they don't exist.

 

And reporting fraud doesn't cost a penny, blaming the guy for getting conned is not helping him and is just encouraging other fraudsters out there ( by reading your posts) that they cant be touched if they play their cards right and once they get the 10 years green card they are untouchable.

 

[Crazy Cat 41,903]

1 minute ago, Tim360 said:

Yes it would make me feel better because she used me and she should not be here, if they call me when she applies for citizenship i will for sure tell them that she scammed me 

Let it go, and seek happiness for yourself.......life is too short to be miserable due to the action of others.

[Cndn 98]

I would focus more on getting a divorce and removing this person from my life for good more than anything else, but of course you can report it if you view it as fraud. I wouldn’t expect a lot to come from it. 

Hey, I’m really sorry this happened. If it was a big scheme (sounds like it) then that is a really twisted thing to do to somebody. It takes somebody cruel to do something like this so you’re lucky this person is out of your life. 

[Pelmeni 39]

15 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

Let it go, and seek happiness for yourself.......life is too short to be miserable due to the action of others.

If he feels that way I can understand. I would send a letter to immigration stating fraud and what evidence I had. It may not change a thing as far as he is concerned but it may go in her file and it could help establish a pattern of behavior to help someone in the future or keep her from other fraud like bringing a new 'already selected' spouse into the country. It may make him feel a little closure knowing he did all he could do, too. However, after doing that, being heard which he deserves if he needs it, then he needs to move on, not check back or keep tabs. Let them handle it. If they want to talk with him them the will but let it go. All this in my opinion only of course. 

Hey, most of us have been used at least once in our lives so you are in good company and there are a lot of people here who genuinely wish you good things and are doing their best to give you good advice. That's something. Sorry, it happened to you! 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Pelmeni

[ZirZai 36]

44 minutes ago, Tim360 said:

I wish this was true but I doubt it, where did you hear about this?

The 'victim' is a very close friend of our family. Heard it first hand from the husband. They live in Georgia.

[Crazy Cat 41,903]

3 minutes ago, Pelmeni said:

If he feels that way I can understand. I would send a letter to immigration stating fraud and what evidence I had. It may not change a thing as far as he is concerned but it may go in her file and it could help establish a pattern of behavior to help in the future. However, after doing that, being heard which he deserves if he needs it, then he needs to move on, not check back or keep tabs. Let them handle it. If they want to talk with him them the will but let it go. All this in my opinion only of course. 

The OP is free to report it, of course.......but I doubt it would have any result.  After all, he gave USCIS and DOS ample  evidence that the marriage was bona fide.......marriages go bad every day.

Edited July 29, 2020 by Lucky Cat

[JFH 12,190]

20 minutes ago, Tim360 said:

Yes it would make me feel better because she used me and she should not be here, if they call me when she applies for citizenship i will for sure tell them that she scammed me 

Unfortunately you don’t get to decide who stays and who doesn’t. 
 

They won’t call you if/when she decides to apply for citizenship. 

[Tim360 2]

7 minutes ago, ZirZai said:

The 'victim' is a very close friend of our family. Heard it first hand from the husband. They live in Georgia.

There was probably more to the story, I doubt it if anyone is gonna do anything to her green card at the airport if I simply report it, I even tried calling them and they don't answer there's just an answering machine 

[doggieandsam 765]

for what it's worth, i would suggest making the report anyway. from the details you've shared here OP, she seems to be pretty knowledgeable about the immigration process and knows how to work it in her favor, and so who knows if she might do something somehow in the future to get you court to enforce the I-864 you filed for her. reporting her would, (at least i think so) get your side of the story documented in her file now. i feel like the sooner that report gets added on her the more credence it will have over time, just in case everything gets thrown into question. now, with this said, don't expect anything to come out of the report (as in, ICE or CBP investigating or doing any action at all) because i agree with what others have said on here in that they most likely will not do anything like that. report and take that as your closure.

[Pelmeni 39]

2 minutes ago, doggieandsam said:

for what it's worth, i would suggest making the report anyway. from the details you've shared here OP, she seems to be pretty knowledgeable about the immigration process and knows how to work it in her favor, and so who knows if she might do something somehow in the future to get you court to enforce the I-864 you filed for her. reporting her would, (at least i think so) get your side of the story documented in her file now. i feel like the sooner that report gets added on her the more credence it will have over time, just in case everything gets thrown into question. now, with this said, don't expect anything to come out of the report (as in, ICE or CBP investigating or doing any action at all) because i agree with what others have said on here in that they most likely will not do anything like that. report and take that as your closure.

Excellent advice!

[geowrian 22,337]

22 minutes ago, Tim360 said:

Yes it would make me feel better because she used me and she should not be here, if they call me when she applies for citizenship i will for sure tell them that she scammed me 

They won't contact you for her citizenship application.

Honestly, her getting citizenship would be best as that gets you off the hook for the I-864.

 

21 minutes ago, Pelmeni said:

Hmmm...I guess she doesn't need his permission but I guess it will take longer if he doesn't help out? Thankfully, I don't have a lot of experience with divorce. I'm thinking of the type of divorce where you don't go to court. You just agree on property and sign off with a notary and an attorney files with the court. That's the shortest and cheapest way. Everything takes longer if you have to go through court. At least there are no children involved. It does sound like the best thing to do is have the papers drawn up and ask her to sign them like 'what was mine is mine and what was yours is yours' kind of thing. If her main thing was to get a green card she will want it done ASAP. It hurts to be played but I think the best thing to do is get it done and then don't even start writing to another girl for at least three years.

Yes, an amicable divorce is usually much simpler. Although I doubt that was really on the table in the OP's case. haha They're long past the point of that being realistic. It's pretty much assured to go through court at this point, it sounds like.

 

21 minutes ago, ZirZai said:

I didn't make that scenario up. It was a very similar situation to the OP's that I had heard off from a family friend and that was how  he said it was handled... 

Honestly, they probably were just told something to make him feel better. Or he said it to make others think he got back at them.

Unless they can verify something was actually done (i.e. they were removed from the country for fraud, or even sent to removal proceedings), it just doesn't make sense.

 

21 minutes ago, ZirZai said:

And when it comes to 'obvious fraud' they can make your life miserable when you are at least applying for the citizenship. Just because you don't see the ppl punished come up here in visa journey it doesn't means they don't exist.

"He hit me (or threatened to do so), so I left."

Still obvious fraud? This isn't VAWA or anything...they aren't going to go back and determine if there was actual abuse. They don't have the time, money, or resources to go back and do that every time a spouse says their ex committed fraud.

 

Can't prove a negative..."Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". I'm not saying that nobody who commits marriage fraud isn't caught later at naturalization, but that would depend on their specific circumstances. The timing alone would not be sufficient to prove fraud.

 

21 minutes ago, ZirZai said:

And reporting fraud doesn't cost a penny, blaming the guy for getting conned is not helping him and is just encouraging other fraudsters out there ( by reading your posts) that they cant be touched if they play their cards right and once they get the 10 years green card they are untouchable.

No harm in reporting. Just don't expect anything to happen and move on.

By that logic, the OP posting about their experience is encouraging other fraudsters. The reality is fraudsters generally already know this...that's what they do. Sure, some are awful at it, but this thread isn't going to change that. The other reality is a good fraudster will generally get away with it by playing their cards right...sorry to say it happens, but it is what it is.

[Unlockable 7,314]

59 minutes ago, Tim360 said:

Yes it would make me feel better because she used me and she should not be here, if they call me when she applies for citizenship i will for sure tell them that she scammed me 

The wound still stings so I get how eager you are to get justice. But trust us, the more you spend effort trying to find some way for her to pay for what she did the more you will keep that wound open. A good example is how you mentioned how they will call you when she applies for citizenship. The problem is that she can apply for citizenship without the help of you in 5+ years. That is probably one of the main reasons why she waited after the 2 year marriage mark to leave. So that is an unrealistic expectation you have about her citizenship.

 

We really are trying to help you by telling you to move on. We really are. As you can tell, you are not the first person to come on this site with a story of fraud. That is why this section of the forum exist. And trust me, if there was an effective way for fraudsters like him to pay for what they did, it would be on top of the forum.

[Bebe Love 4]

Change all passwords;  make sure you have Nothing financially together, no charge cards.. no checking accounts... no ties at all..   then just sit back and let her do the filing and let her pay for it....No kids together?   Dont' sweat it...just close/stop any credit or credit cards if you ever got anything joint.. if nothing joint... Let her pay for the divorce....Been There Done That.... karma 's a ...Or let new boyfriend pay for it...

 

True also... you can not do anything about reporting her for fraud.. or get her GC canceled....We just finished our Citz and it cost ? $850 plus our 2 kids;  So forget her... she'll be paying for anything from now on also..

ask anyone on here how "easy" it is to live in the land of the Free.. its not free... be glad your rid of her... I've tossed a few out... Happy 4th Year anniversary to us... 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Bebe Love

[Amadia 711]

First off, sorry this has happened to you 😕 

Second....like others told you - she did it all for the Green Card...yup...the Green Card 🎶

 

Now that reality has set in for you (hopefully!)....find things that bring you joy and forget her. Situations like this are one of the reasons VJ exists so people can share their experiences.

Best believe that karma always comes full circle so I hope she can handle it when it knocks down her door