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3. AT THAT time name checks are ordered...

THIS is where i have the issue.......This is no longer about WHOSE name checks come back first...MINE weren't even pulled yet...NOTHING has been touched on my file since June 19. SOOOOOOOOO HOW are others getting approved from JULY, SEPT, OCT????????????????? No excuse to use it for training, why not just grab the NEXT create??? This isn't making sense...dont get me wrong..im HAPPY for those approved...NOT happy with the system.

4. After name checks come back, the file is worked

EAch file DOES take about 15 minutes, up to 30 minutes she said. THAT means that ONE create is only 2 days worth of work. So, the idea of my file sitting on someones desk waiting for name checks, or under a HUGE pile of backlog doesn't add up to WHY others so much later are getting approved.....

Anyone else find this odd???? Does this make sense how Im seeing it??? Its a broken system to say the least.

Look at it this way, in each box there are 30 petitions. Lets say, for arguments sake the the first 5 petitons in that box (which are at the bottom) are the last of the May petitions in the mailroom, that means that the other 25 are June petitions. So the officer snags a box and puts it on his desk. The first 25 petitions he works on are from june, then gets to the may petitions. Now, since that guy got the last of the May petititons, all the other adjudicators are pulling june petitions. Maybe the guy who got the last of the Mays is slow, or there are a lot of problems with the petitions, or whatever, then you are seeing Junes adjudicated before Mays. Now add in the additional variables of adjudicators who work from home, and they pull that box and doesnt come back for a week, then everyone in that box is a week behind. Or and adjudicator goes on vacation and leaves the box on his desk because he already ordered the name checks. Multiply this by however many adjudicators there are and it becomes overwhelming. And dont forget the shear numbers game that we have. Using VJ numbers only, there is only about 1 box of may, 2 boxes of june, 4 boxes of july, 1 box august and 1 box sept. Multiply those numbers by whatever to account for nationwide, and you can see how a fast adjudicator could already be working some boxes of june and july while a slow guy is still working on may.

With no understanding of the actual nuts n bolts of the process due to no transparency, there are so many variables that you cant account for them all.

I know everyone will shoot holes in this theory, and I am not condoning these actions or saying that it doesnt suck, because it does. I also know that I could be perfectly correct or perfectly incorrect. No one knows for sure except the people in the cube farm at VSC.

Well, one problem with that theory is it doesn't match what we have seen. When I joined vj in june they had just started to work on may and had some april leftover. They worked on those exclusively for almost 5 months before ANY june got approved.

So it does not make sense that they skip to july (or september/october) a couple weeks after starting june. It seems more likely they are flying by seat of their pants and giving in to whatever political muscle comes at them than that how they are working is logical somehow. :angry:

You will notice in my post, I specifically did not mention the Sept. stuff :devil: because it is some kind of an abboration. I am just pointing out that it is possible to have quite a bit of overlap, however, I also believe that you are correct, that this much overlap has some other explanation, but that explanation is lost to me.

--- AOS Timeline ---

07/22/08 --- Mailed AOS packet to Chicago

07/25/08 --- NOA for I-131, I-485, and I-765

08/27/08 --- Biometrics

10/01/08 --- AP received

10/14/08 --- EAD received

11/13/08 --- Notice of transfer to CSC

02/09/09 --- Permanent Resident Card Ordered Notice

02/09/09 --- 2 Yr Permanent Resident Card Received

--- Lifting Conditions ---

11/10/10 --- Mailed I-751 packet to VSC

11/12/10 --- NOA1

12/22/10 --- Biometrics

03/15/11 --- RFE

05/10/11 --- Approved

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Nigeria
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Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I cannot belive it, I got approved (NOA2). I checked my online status, and here it says:

Receipt Number: EAC0720******

Application Type: I129F, PETITION FOR FIANCE(E)

Current Status: Approval notice sent.

On November 25, 2007, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E). Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.

Congratulations. I am happy for you; at least you're not one of those using this board to vent their innate frustrations in life generally. You waited on the Lord and He answered you. Goodluck.

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04/16/12: Package sent to TX LOckbox

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Nigeria
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Approved!!!!!!!!!!!

Yayyy... just wanted to let you all know - VSC is still working!!

I've had NO touches since my NOA-1, not even when I changed my address!! Also, I remember some people wondering whether they were issuing RFE's for not having including the beneficiary's birth certificate - I didn't include that, and was starting to freak out... but I guess you don't need it!

Congratulations, and God continued blessings on the rest of your journey. Faith, hope and patience together with prayers, ALWAYS WORKS!!!! :)

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04/16/12: Package sent to TX LOckbox

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Well, I'm tired of being on a limbo...waiting to know what is going on...I don't know how many times I've been complaining but this is just all ridiculous! Enough is enough man.....!! And this whole christmas spirit is just driving me freakin nuts! I'm running away from christmas and from all the houses (neighbors), stores who have their christmas decorations since the first week of november. Here, I'm the one who does the xmas decoration....I'm not doing anything this year.....my dad will have to find someone else to do it...or maybe himself! :angry:

Mirla, i can understand your frustration you know how long i've been waiting and im still waiting just like you. I invited myself into my aunt's house in austria and that's where i will spend christmas and New Year at. I will use this Christmas and New Year as a kind of a goodbye-thing because i know next year by this time i will be with Mel. I met him over 4 years ago and yes i want to spend the rest of my life with him BUT i have known my family all my life. So try to spent time with your family and keep the tradition going as long as you can. You will soon leave them to live with Pat and nobody knows if and when you will get the chance to be with them for christmas again so try to look at it from that point. Of course you need to call Vermont and see if you can get some Info but don't forget that everything happens for a reason so don't punish your dad for the unprofessional doings of Vermont. You are in my prayers everyday and i hope we gone have a great christmas present which will be our APPROVAL so please keep the faith, you are not alone. (L)

OMG!! I forgot to congrats the recent approvees, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU!!

Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart.

Prov. 3:3

REMOVING OF CONDITION

08/02/2010 I-751 sent with K2 & my son

08/12/2010 Check cashed

08/06/2010 NOA (received 08/16/2010)

08/18/2010 My son's check was cashed

09/27/2010 Biometrics appointment

10/26/2010 APPROVED

11/1/2010 10yrs GC in the mail

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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3. AT THAT time name checks are ordered...

THIS is where i have the issue.......This is no longer about WHOSE name checks come back first...MINE weren't even pulled yet...NOTHING has been touched on my file since June 19. SOOOOOOOOO HOW are others getting approved from JULY, SEPT, OCT????????????????? No excuse to use it for training, why not just grab the NEXT create??? This isn't making sense...dont get me wrong..im HAPPY for those approved...NOT happy with the system.

4. After name checks come back, the file is worked

EAch file DOES take about 15 minutes, up to 30 minutes she said. THAT means that ONE create is only 2 days worth of work. So, the idea of my file sitting on someones desk waiting for name checks, or under a HUGE pile of backlog doesn't add up to WHY others so much later are getting approved.....

Anyone else find this odd???? Does this make sense how Im seeing it??? Its a broken system to say the least.

Look at it this way, in each box there are 30 petitions. Lets say, for arguments sake the the first 5 petitons in that box (which are at the bottom) are the last of the May petitions in the mailroom, that means that the other 25 are June petitions. So the officer snags a box and puts it on his desk. The first 25 petitions he works on are from june, then gets to the may petitions. Now, since that guy got the last of the May petititons, all the other adjudicators are pulling june petitions. Maybe the guy who got the last of the Mays is slow, or there are a lot of problems with the petitions, or whatever, then you are seeing Junes adjudicated before Mays. Now add in the additional variables of adjudicators who work from home, and they pull that box and doesnt come back for a week, then everyone in that box is a week behind. Or and adjudicator goes on vacation and leaves the box on his desk because he already ordered the name checks. Multiply this by however many adjudicators there are and it becomes overwhelming. And dont forget the shear numbers game that we have. Using VJ numbers only, there is only about 1 box of may, 2 boxes of june, 4 boxes of july, 1 box august and 1 box sept. Multiply those numbers by whatever to account for nationwide, and you can see how a fast adjudicator could already be working some boxes of june and july while a slow guy is still working on may.

With no understanding of the actual nuts n bolts of the process due to no transparency, there are so many variables that you cant account for them all.

I know everyone will shoot holes in this theory, and I am not condoning these actions or saying that it doesnt suck, because it does. I also know that I could be perfectly correct or perfectly incorrect. No one knows for sure except the people in the cube farm at VSC.

Well, one problem with that theory is it doesn't match what we have seen. When I joined vj in june they had just started to work on may and had some april leftover. They worked on those exclusively for almost 5 months before ANY june got approved.

So it does not make sense that they skip to july (or september/october) a couple weeks after starting june. It seems more likely they are flying by seat of their pants and giving in to whatever political muscle comes at them than that how they are working is logical somehow. :angry:

You will notice in my post, I specifically did not mention the Sept. stuff :devil: because it is some kind of an abboration. I am just pointing out that it is possible to have quite a bit of overlap, however, I also believe that you are correct, that this much overlap has some other explanation, but that explanation is lost to me.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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You will notice in my post, I specifically did not mention the Sept. stuff :devil: because it is some kind of an abboration. I am just pointing out that it is possible to have quite a bit of overlap, however, I also believe that you are correct, that this much overlap has some other explanation, but that explanation is lost to me.

That is just the thing thats getting to me...a MONTH overlap or more is not understandable. I do understand say 2 weeks...but a MONTH? And as far as the explanation that some are slower..no excuse..thats just poor management to not know where these files stand and which adjudicators need a push. These are peoples lives they are dealing with. I know most probably are working hard...but to me...this big of an overlap is just unexcusable.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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.....OK....more new news......After finding out yesterday bout the RFE i called my lawyer right away.....I let her know that i knew for a fact that it was sent on the 18th and that there is no way it would take more than this week to arrive...I left that on an aswering machine....well today first thing i called her again and explained everything...she said "well i have a huge pile of mail which i will try to get to today or tomorrow" i told her i want news by friday the latest.....Well late this afternoon she left a message on my cell telling me that the RFE letter was in the pile....And to top it off...the evidence that they want...your going to laugh!!!! She forgot to have me sign one of the forms...that is all they asked for... :wacko: .....NEVER EVER DEPEND ON A LAWYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well tomorrow im going to her office to sign it and im sending through my Fedex account right away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we had it to do all over again we would not have used an attorney for various reasons. Most and foremost you can pretty much do everything yourself. Not too mention you are cutiing out the middle guy which in turn saves on time. We sent everything to him, then we had to wait for him to get to it and then send it out. Then wait for VSC to process stuff to then send stuff back to him to wait for him to get to it and then send stuff back to us. Just think of all of the time we could have saved without the middle man.

Not too mention we hired an attorney for the simple fact that we assumed that they know what they are doing! To alleviate any mistakes that we might make as again we assume that they know what they are doing. Well we received and RFE from VSC for paperwork that they had already received in the initial package. We had to do all of the leg work to sort this out while our attorney' advice was to sit and wait. Do we not wait enough and at their mistake no less. Then getting hold of the attorneys is sometimes as hard as getting hold of the right answer from VSC! But boy they respond real fast when it is payment to them time. Needless to say we would not hire an attorney if we had it to do all over again, it was a waste of our time and our money.

CHEERS!

April 24th 2007 NOA1

July 11th 2007 touched

August 10th 2007 RFE (paperwork they already had)

August 13thFED EX RFE INFO

August 14 VSC Received

August 21st touched

August 22nd touched

August 23rd touched (cleared security checks)

August 24th touched

September 14th 2007 NOA2

September 20th 2007 Hard Copy of NOA2

September 20th 2007 Letter drawn up from NVC

with new case number. Within a week

Visa petition will be sent to London.

September 29th 2007 letter received from London Embassy

*they have it :D* Need to schedule Medical.

October 12th 2007 Medical complete and done....passed :D

November 5th 2007 Checklist sent to London Embassy

November 12th 2007 Checklist received by London Embassy

December 5th 2007 Interview Date London Embassy *Dances around room*

DECEMBER 5TH K1 APPROVED *Jumps up and down on bed*

*LONDON WAS EASY*

December 17th Fiance' arrived in the U.S. *MERRY CHRISTMAS*

December 19th Social Security applied for

Live first and foremost, don't judge others as they will eventually judge you!! Be the most for your heart and not your head. Above all remember every person you meet is a person!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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hello!!! we were approved on nov 26!!!!!

no touches....no nothing!!! we got an e mail at night time!!!! we are approved!!! It feels so good!!!!

K1 TIMELINE

JULY 10 SENT 129 PACKAGE VERMONT SERVICE CENTER

JULY 13 NOA1

JULY 25 TOUCHED

NOVEMBER 26 APPROVED!!!!

DECEMBER 4 FAXED & MAILED PACKET 3 (Shortcut)

DECEMBER 7 RECEIVED PACKET 3

DECEMBER 11 RECEIVED PACKET 4

JANUARY 9 LAB @ 7:00am

JANUARY 14 PHYSICAL EXAM @ 11:45am

JANUARY 17 FIANCE COMES TO BOGOTÁ FOR THE INTERVIEW!

JANUARY 18 INTERVIEW!! APPROVED!

JANUARY 25 VISA DELIVERED

JANUARY 27 POE NYC/JFK GOT EAD STAMP

FEBRUARY 13 APPLIED FOR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER

FEBRUARY 20 GOT MARRIED!!! RECEIVED SOCIAL SECURITY CARD IN THE MAIL

FEBRUARY 21 DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT GOT VACCINATION SUPPLEMENT

AOS - ED - AP TIMELINE

MARCH 20 AOS PACKAGE SENT

MARCH 21 RECEIVED

MARCH 28 CHECK CASHED

MARCH 31 NOAS RECEIVED

APRIL 17 BIOMETRICS APPOINTMENT DONE!!!

APRIL 26 RECEIVED NOTICE OF ACTION DATED 4/22- CASE TRANSFERRED TO CALIFORNIA SERVICE CENTER

APRIL 30 I-485 CASE TOUCHED!

MAY 18 I-485 TOUCHED

MAY 30 AP APPROVED EAD CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED!!!

JUNE 4 AP RECEIVED IN THE MAIL

JUNE 9 EAD RECEIVED IN THE MAIL

JULY 17 I-485 TOUCHED

JULY 18 CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED!!!!!!!

JULY 29 RECEIVED GC IN THE MAIL

OCTOBER 10 2008 RELIGIOUS WEDDING!!!!!!

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Lithuania
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hello!!! we were approved on nov 26!!!!!

no touches....no nothing!!! we got an e mail at night time!!!! we are approved!!! It feels so good!!!!

Congratulations !

K-1 Visa journey:

January '04: met in the USA

21st June '07: sent the I-129

06th November '07 - APPROVED, FINALLY !!!

19th December '07:Medical

20th December '07: Interview Date

21st December '07: VISA IN HAND

18th January '08: Leaving to US !

12th February '08: received SSN

14th March '08: WEDDING DATE

AOS journey:

04th April '08: AOS package sent

11th April '08: Notice date on all 3 NOA's (15 April in the mail)

07th May '08: Biometrics (done)

02nd May '08: Driver's license received

09th May '08: AOS transferred to CSC

15th May '08: AOS is pending at CSC (CRIS email)

18th May '08: AOS touched

04th/09th June '08: EAD Card production ordered (CRIS email) (2 e-mails on different days)

04th June '08: AP approved (CRIS email)

10th June '08: AP in the mail

12th June '08: Approval notice for I765 sent (EAD) (CRIS email)

14th June '08: EAD in the mail

17th June '08: 2nd visit to SS Office - changed my last name on the card

18th/19th June '08: AOS touched

28th June '08: SS card received with a new last name (in the mail)

14th August '08: GC ORDERED (Cris email) !!!

19th August '08: GC and welcoming letter received

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Congrats!

Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart.

Prov. 3:3

REMOVING OF CONDITION

08/02/2010 I-751 sent with K2 & my son

08/12/2010 Check cashed

08/06/2010 NOA (received 08/16/2010)

08/18/2010 My son's check was cashed

09/27/2010 Biometrics appointment

10/26/2010 APPROVED

11/1/2010 10yrs GC in the mail

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mozambique
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hello!!! we were approved on nov 26!!!!!

no touches....no nothing!!! we got an e mail at night time!!!! we are approved!!! It feels so good!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Omizo & Tusha

04/09/2008 - Send the AOS, EAD, AP

04/11/2008 - USCIS received my package

04/28/2008 - Money Order cashed

04/29/2008 - NOA for AOS+EAD+AP

05/02/2008 - Received Hardcopies of NOAs

05/20/2008 - Biometric (Fingerprint)

05/21/2008 - AOS & EAD touched

05/29/2008 - AOS tranfered to CSC

06/04/2008 - AOS touched

06/06/2008 - AOS touched

06/10/2008 - EAD approved

06/10/2008 - AP approved

06/19/2008 - AOS touched

07/22/2008 - Received CRIS e-mail (Notice mailed welcoming the new permanent resident)

07/23/2008 - AOS touched

07/25/2008 - Received

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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hello!!! we were approved on nov 26!!!!!

no touches....no nothing!!! we got an e mail at night time!!!! we are approved!!! It feels so good!!!!

Congratulations!!!!! :dance::dance::dance:

Here's hoping the rest of your journey is swift and effortless. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

K1 Visa Process
USPS Express Mail I-129F Package sent to USCIS VT Service Center 07/05/07
NOA-1 Received: Notice Date 07/11/07
NOA-2 Received: Notice Date 11/20/07
Medical conducted 12/21, 26, 28/07, 01/02/08
USEM Interview conducted 01/04/08
Visas picked up at USEM (request non-delivery) 01/08/08
Family (Mom & kids) arrive Washington, DC 01/13/08

AOS Process
USPS Priority Mail package to USCIS Chicago Lockbox 03/14/08
Arrived Chicago Lockbox 03/16/08
Checks Cashed for AOS fees 04/24/08
NOA1s received 04/25/08
Biometrics (spouse & 3 kids) 05/14/08
AOS transferred to CSC 05/23/08

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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If we had it to do all over again we would not have used an attorney for various reasons. Most and foremost you can pretty much do everything yourself. Not too mention you are cutiing out the middle guy which in turn saves on time. We sent everything to him, then we had to wait for him to get to it and then send it out. Then wait for VSC to process stuff to then send stuff back to him to wait for him to get to it and then send stuff back to us. Just think of all of the time we could have saved without the middle man.

Not too mention we hired an attorney for the simple fact that we assumed that they know what they are doing! To alleviate any mistakes that we might make as again we assume that they know what they are doing. Well we received and RFE from VSC for paperwork that they had already received in the initial package. We had to do all of the leg work to sort this out while our attorney' advice was to sit and wait. Do we not wait enough and at their mistake no less. Then getting hold of the attorneys is sometimes as hard as getting hold of the right answer from VSC! But boy they respond real fast when it is payment to them time. Needless to say we would not hire an attorney if we had it to do all over again, it was a waste of our time and our money.

CHEERS!

I originally contacted several lawyers about our process, but got that feeling. I had actually made a preliminary agreement with one lawyer, but she kept losing my number, forgetting to return calls, etc. So I decided to file on my own. I'm a smart, well-educated person and thought that I could do just as well as she could.

I'm glad I did now. They all seemed to imply that they could get approval faster than we could on our own, but that's not really true. The way I look at it, I was looking at paying way too much money for the limited service they were offering. It's not like they were going to fill out the forms for me.

All you need is a modest house in a modest neighborhood

In a modest town where honest people dwell

--July 22---------Sent I-129F packet

--July 27---------Petition received

--August 28------NOA1 issued

--August 31------Arrived in Terrace after lots of flight delays to spend Lindsay's birthday with her

--October 10-----Completed address change online

--January 25-----NOA2 received via USCIS Case Status Online

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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WE WERE TOUCHED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can not believe it. I know that we may still get RFE...but at LEAST we know someone is looking at our file. Im in tears. I cant decide weather to laugh or cry...weather to be happy or scared. WOW. Mixed emotions. Almost 6 months of seeing the same date. Just to know someone opened our file and is looking at it. I wonder if a touch means they ordered our background checks? Or if it means the name check is done and now they are reviewing it. Either way...

PRAISE BE TO GOD!!
 
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