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2 hours ago, dwheels76 said:

They don't come back and post here but they inbox some I know a boatload from West African Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal, Gambia that all did this and the men are still in Africa 3,4,5,6 years later.
I only know of one from Nigeria came to interview and before CO even started he owned up to the application lie saying he had wife and kids, The CO thanked him did interview he was approved. No one I know that lied and submitted fraudulent papers ever got approved. I don't see that EVER happening.

Are the spouses moving to them then?

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pushbrk
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The elephant in the room is that to solve the problem, the applicant must admit to having committed a material misrepresentation in the prior visa application process.  Once he does THAT, they have su

Lemonslice
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Are you absolutely sure he was not married before?  Hiding marriages and kids has happened before. 

dwheels76
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Lord I have seen this too many times in the West African forums. The twist here is he just didn't lie on an application he submitted fraudulent documentation. Like Pushbrk says  saying he lied he admi

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1 hour ago, Lemonslice said:

Are the spouses moving to them then?

Probably the only option after all Immigration is a 2 way street.

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3 hours ago, Boiler said:

Probably the only option after all Immigration is a 2 way street.

It is and I don't know about these specific cases.  The two cases I do know about, ended up giving up, divorcing and moving on.  This kind of fraud mostly happens in countries  in which few Americans want to spend their lives.  Many otherwise bona fide marriages, are still based on the idea the couple will share a life in the USA.  It's a small minority that will move to the foreigner's country, particularly when it's 3rd world and the US Citizen is the breadwinner.  

 

Notable exception would be the Philippines when the USC is able to retire there.

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23 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

It is and I don't know about these specific cases.  The two cases I do know about, ended up giving up, divorcing and moving on.  This kind of fraud mostly happens in countries  in which few Americans want to spend their lives.  Many otherwise bona fide marriages, are still based on the idea the couple will share a life in the USA.  It's a small minority that will move to the foreigner's country, particularly when it's 3rd world and the US Citizen is the breadwinner.  

 

Notable exception would be the Philippines when the USC is able to retire there.

Well it is something that should be discussed, especially when there are issues and only one option is acceptable.

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On 7/28/2020 at 1:19 PM, Lemonslice said:

Are the spouses moving to them then?

Nope. Separation or divorce. Cuz guess what in most cases  stuff got revealed like OH my he really was married or he has kids.

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19 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

Nope. Separation or divorce. Cuz guess what in most cases  stuff got revealed like OH my he really was married or he has kids.

You mean they lied....and lied about the lie? I'm shocked.

And people wonder why USCIS won't just accept "I lied" at face value.

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ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

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OP hasn't been back.  I guess they moved to Palestine to be with the significant other.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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For some reason Egypt comes to mind.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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On 7/29/2020 at 2:14 PM, geowrian said:

You mean they lied....and lied about the lie? I'm shocked.

And people wonder why USCIS won't just accept "I lied" at face value.

@geowrian we both been around these here parts a long time and about seen and heard it all. Yep the lie about the lie.

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From now on your VJ Member name will be verified. If the name you put on form to be added to spreadsheet comes up not found, you will not be added to the spreadsheet. If you don't have a timeline you will not be added to the spreadsheet.

Please Please put your VJ member name only. Not nicknames or real names whatever your VJ name is. It's below your profile picture!!

 

Come join the current Interview thread: 

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Case Complete to Interview Form

 

 

 

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5/21/2018: Filed i751 ROC
6/12/2018: NOA1 Date
3/5/2019: Biometrics Appt
12/28/2019: 18 month Extension has expired
1/9/2020: InfoPass Appt to get stamp in Passport
2/27/2020: Combo Interview (ROC and Citizenship)
3/31/2020: submitted service request for being pass normal processing time
4/7/2020: Card being produced
4/8/2020: Approved
4/10/2020: Card mailed
4/15/2020: 10 year green card received
 
 
N-400
5/21/2019: Filed Online
5/21/2019: NOA1 Date
6/13/2019: Biometrics Appt
2/27/2020: Citizenship Interview
4/7/2020: In queue for Oath Ceremony to be scheduled
6/19/2020: Notice Oath Ceremony scheduled
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Interview 03-12-08
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Entry 05-06-08
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AOS X5
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Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
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Cards Received02-22-11
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Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

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