I129F denied due to 2 year meeting requirement, next steps for person with flying phobia? (merged)

[pushbrk 12,876]

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

True, although the way the OP worded the initial post, it sounds like it was mentioned in the prior petition ("even with medical evidence and the financial support I had given (30K+ USD)..."). If that's correct, they'll know whether it's mentioned on the new one or not.

 

Yes, they might actually see it and might not.  Either way, three months together in Sri Lanka living as a married couple will carry the day over lots of red flags.  I still wouldn't wave one in their face on a new petition though.

[devusr 41]

7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

True, although the way the OP worded the initial post, it sounds like it was mentioned in the prior petition ("even with medical evidence and the financial support I had given (30K+ USD)..."). If that's correct, they'll know whether it's mentioned on the new one or not.

 

It was mentioned in the 129F, all the receipts of the wire transfers were included. Look, we did video chat 24/7 for a year, it is possible to figure out the mannerisms and ways during that time. Some people live together 40 years and end up not knowing each other......what mathematics equation do the CO/USCIS want to judge us by?!?!?!?

 

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by devusr

[pushbrk 12,876]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Seemingly not poor. Well not now.

In this context, she is poor and the Consular Officer would know it.  You need money, assets, and a good income by US Standards to get a visitor visa from Sri Lanka.  It's not going to happen.  The person who suggested it is from Belgium, where no visa is required.  Lots of first world folks used to extensive travel privileges with no visa or easy access to visas, have no clue what awaits a tourist visa applicant from second and third world countries.  That's the context, but you knew that.

[sl1pstream 551]

1 hour ago, devusr said:

As a christian and a libertarian

Not sure how those go together, or how they're relevant here. The rest of your rant doesn't really work either because countries have laws and it's always been like that. 

You can't just buy your way out of this and you can't expect to catch sardines anywhere on the planet. Which is why they can't get them fresh. 

[geowrian 22,337]

10 minutes ago, devusr said:

what mathematics equation do the CO/USCIS want to judge us by?!?!?!?

For USCIS:

Let x = not having met in person at least once prior to filing the I-129F

If x -> deny the petition

[other petition requirements not mentioned ITT]

Approve petition

QED

 

The CO looks at a more complete picture of the relationship. One-way support payments or gifts would not be favorable. Time spent physically together would be the most favorable.

Spending a few months together, as it seems is planned, would be a good sign.

Edited July 27, 2020 by geowrian

[sl1pstream 551]

12 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

In this context, she is poor and the Consular Officer would know it.  You need money, assets, and a good income by US Standards to get a visitor visa from Sri Lanka.  It's not going to happen.  The person who suggested it is from Belgium, where no visa is required.  Lots of first world folks used to extensive travel privileges with no visa or easy access to visas, have no clue what awaits a tourist visa applicant from second and third world countries.  That's the context, but you knew that.

He hasn't mentioned her trying to get a tourist visa, nor has he mentioned them wanting to meet before. He's looking for ways to see her now that they've been denied, sure, but only because they've been denied. There's not a single instance of them wanting to meet before, even in a third country. That's weird and a red flag.

 

He's not even looking for advice, he's mostly ranting about not being able to buy his way through the process. He knows they have to see each other, because it's one of the actual requirements of the visa application.

Edited July 27, 2020 by sl1pstream

[devusr 41]

7 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

He hasn't mentioned her trying to get a tourist visa, nor has he mentioned them wanting to meet before. He's looking for ways to see her now that they've been denied, sure, but only because they've been denied. There's not a single instance of them wanting to meet before, even in a third country. That's weird and a red flag.

 

He's not even looking for advice, he's mostly ranting about not being able to buy his way through the process. He knows they have to see each other, because it's one of the actual requirements of the visa application.

When I filed the I129F application, I saw the hardship waiver of the 2 year meeting requirement. I read the instructions, I got the doctor's note because I had been to them to take medication for the phobia since 2005. It didn't WORK. As I said, it takes a person with this disorder to know,a magic pill isn't going to work. Why the hell do they have the hardship waiver with such a bad description/instructions.....I didn't know I had to go to a thirdparty unofficial forum to get instructions.

 

I filed it thinking the hardship waiver would be OK because it is really a hardship for me, the petitioner. That's what the ******* instructions say man.

 

Only now do I even know about the bahamas option. If I had known it earlier, I would have done it a thousand times.

Edited July 27, 2020 by devusr

[sl1pstream 551]

6 minutes ago, devusr said:

When I filed the I129F application, I saw the hardship waiver of the 2 year meeting requirement. I read the instructions, I got the doctor's note because I had been to them to take medication for the phobia since 2005. It didn't WORK. As I said, it takes a person with this disorder to know,a magic pill isn't going to work.

 

I filed it thinking the hardship waiver would be OK because it is really a hardship for me, the petitioner. That's what the ******* instructions say man.

 

Only now do I even know about the bahamas option. If I had known it earlier, I would have done it a thousand times.

You've only thought about meeting in a third country now? You've never felt the need to see each other before this?

 

And it's not a hardship because you've never even bothered to meet before now even though you definitely have the financial means to do so. I don't get how you can be at the point where you're 2 and a half years into a relationship, love each other enough to get married but didn't look for creative ways to see each other that would not involve you getting on a plane. If the people on here already think that's odd, someone getting paid to make sure people don't cheat the system is definitely seeing red flags. Especially when there's that much money involved. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by sl1pstream

[devusr 41]

No, I didn't feel the need to meet, I facetimed videod her 24/7. People who have lived 40 years sometimes end up not knowing their partner.....WHAT PART of disconnect-from-reality mathematics equation do you want to judge us by? I understand it's the "LAW" (non biblical), and yes I'm willing to comply, but the i129F instructions and the reality are 2 different realms.

 

We've only known each other 1 year...where did you get 2.5 years from? did you make that up wolf in sheeps clothing?

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by devusr

[Boiler 45,466]

There is no requirement to fly.

[devusr 41]

On 7/26/2020 at 8:04 PM, Boiler said:

There is no requirement to fly.

Dude, I filed the hardship requirement because the instructions made sense. Look up the instructions, it caused actual physical hardship..I had an actual doctor's note with treatment since 2005.

 

I filed it because the(removed)instructions said  it had a waiver for legitimate reasons. Do you not understand???? How mathematically do you (removed) want to justify "legitimate"???

Edited July 31, 2020 by Ontarkie
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[sl1pstream 551]

7 minutes ago, devusr said:

No, I didn't feel the need to meet, I facetimed videod her 24/7. People who have lived 40 years sometimes end up not knowing their partner.....WHAT PART of disconnect-from-reality mathematics equation do you want to judge us by? I understand it's the "LAW" (non biblical), and yes I'm willing to comply, but the i129F instructions and the reality are 2 different realms.

 

We've only known each other 1 year...where did you get 2.5 years from? did you make that up wolf in sheeps clothing?

 

 

 

Can we drop the Bible #######? You're dealing with government agencies, yelling about biblical law isn't going to help you here.

Then fine, you're not going to get your waiver after only knowing each other for a year and providing absolutely no evidence that she couldn't get a tourist visa, if you just didn't feel like you had to meet.

 

The fact that you've only known each other for a year and that you've already been sending her money from day one doesn't really look good either. I swear I read 2.5 years somewhere. If I didn't, that's even worse, you've only known each other for a year, without visiting, and you're already getting married.

Edited July 27, 2020 by sl1pstream

[devusr 41]

On 7/26/2020 at 8:10 PM, sl1pstream said:

Can we drop the Bible #######? You're dealing with government agencies, yelling about biblical law isn't going to help you here.

Then fine, you're not going to get your waiver after only knowing each other for a year and providing absolutely no evidence that she couldn't get a tourist visa, if you just didn't feel like you had to meet.

There is NO (removed) way she is going to get a tourist visa especially since I told her to quit her job (wasn't making a big amount anyways). It is hard for single women to get a VISA in their 30s in Sri Lanka. I didn't really know that since this is the first time I'm doing this. I didn't do the research because the (remvoed)instructions said to file a hardship waiver from myside, I followed the instructions. Do you not understand??? Go and read the 129-F instructions WITHOUT thirdparty research.

Edited July 31, 2020 by Ontarkie
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[sl1pstream 551]

6 minutes ago, devusr said:

There is NO fing way she is going to get a tourist visa especially since I told her to quit her job (wasn't making a big amount anyways). It is hard for single women to get a VISA. I didn't really know that since this is the first time I'm doing this. I didn't do the research because the fing instructions said to file a hardship waiver from myside, I followed the instructions. Do you not understand??? Go and read the 129-F instructions WITHOUT thirdparty research.

Dude, most people are doing this without 3rd party help. You have to meet. What you're describing also isn't hardship, just a series of bad decisions. I also feel like proof that she couldn't get one would've been helpful and you still could've met in another country.

 

As an aside, I also feel like your first petition is going to negatively affect any future ones you file, because of the waiver. I'd get a lawyer, I'm not sure why you haven't already.

Edited July 27, 2020 by sl1pstream

[Boiler 45,466]

The only issue mentioned is that the OP does not want to/ can not fly. As has been repeatedly pointed out there are other options.