Visiting US after withdrawal of Asylum claim from Canada

[Sparkle Sparkle 914]

3 hours ago, Mystery 2020 said:

How are they going to support themselves in the USA if they claimed asylum in Canada so clearly have no money or a way to support themselves?

 

How about they stop country shopping and go back to their own country.

*********corrected**********Very tasteless response.........Asylum does not mean you poor...it means you face reasonable danger to your life thats why you fleeing

@Mollie09 If danger does not exit anymore why not?.....Asylum does not mean you make another country home...you stay there until you no longer in danger then you return.

Edited July 22, 2020 by Sparkle Sparkle

[SalishSea 18,072]

18 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Hence the confusion, seems like they are fleeing or will flee Canada.

Which makes NO sense whatsoever.  Canada does not persecute people due to race, religion, gender identity, sexuality, etc.  If someone is being persecuted in Canada by a person or group, that is a matter for Canadian law enforcement, not a US asylum case.

Just now, Sparkle Sparkle said:

*********corrected**********Very tasteless response.........Asylum does not mean you poor...it means you face reasonable danger to your life thats why you fleeing

Again, makes no sense for Canada.

[Mollie09 1,543]

4 minutes ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

*********corrected**********Very tasteless response.........Asylum does not mean you poor...it means you face reasonable danger to your life thats why you fleeing

@Mollie09 If danger does not exit anymore why not?.....Asylum does not mean you make another country home...you stay there until you no longer in danger then you return.

Then why apply for asylum in the US?

[Sparkle Sparkle 914]

3 minutes ago, Mollie09 said:

Then why apply for asylum in the US?

His personal reasons I guess....my point is that not all Asylum seekers are poor beggars or economic immigrants as insinuated by @Mystery 2020 . Definitely i sense the story is not being told straight but its wrong to make unjustified accusations. now lets get over it

Edited July 22, 2020 by Sparkle Sparkle

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

47 minutes ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

Very tasteless response.........Asylum does not mean you more...it means you face reasonable danger to your life thats why you fleeing

But this person is talking about wanting to go back home “for some reason”, that’s very unusual for a real asylum seeker, no? 

[Sparkle Sparkle 914]

Just now, SusieQQQ said:

But this person is talking about wanting to go back home “for some reason”, that’s very unusual for a real asylum seeker, no? 

I understand that...and I appreciate the fact that there is more to his story.....But I was correcting the notion that Asylum seekers are all poor and cant take care of themselves....their are billionaires seeking  political asylum everywhere

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

26 minutes ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

*********corrected**********Very tasteless response.........Asylum does not mean you poor...it means you face reasonable danger to your life thats why you fleeing

@Mollie09 If danger does not exit anymore why not?.....Asylum does not mean you make another country home...you stay there until you no longer in danger then you return.

Person clearly stated sought asylum in Canada then went home now wants to use tourist visa to go to US and claim asylum there. What, there was a brief period of no danger between asylum attempts? You think?

It’s people like this that make it so hard for genuine asylum seekers. If there really was an issue they’d have stayed in Canada. Where they probably had a better chance anyway.

 

Edited July 22, 2020 by SusieQQQ

[Sparkle Sparkle 914]

1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

US and claim asylum there

to visit family he said

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

3 minutes ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

to visit family he said

He also said 

 

7 hours ago, Ansa said:

is it possible to claim Asylum in US in this condition?

 

[Sparkle Sparkle 914]

Like I said ......There is something wrong with his story...Asylum seekers are required to claim asylum in the very first "safe country" they enter. He changing from canada to US means he will probably be rejected because his Asylum does not hold water.....but my argument was directed at calling Asylum seekers poor.....they are not!....do we understand this?

https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/59c4be077.pdf

[Just Paul 4,595]

OP should really clarify what is going on.  The person is in Canada and wishes to abandon pending asylum there to visit the US?  Or wishes to claim asylum in the US and then leave?

 

In any case the person seeking asylum should remain where there are until they receive the appropriate document that allows them to re-enter the country they are seeking asylum from.  In very rare circumstances should the return to the country from which they left in order to seek asylum.

 

If the person has a valid US visa they could still visit.  They may not be able to cross at a land crossing where asylum is typically sought (plus most asylum seekers do not have valid US visas).

[geowrian 22,338]

They can attempt entry with a valid visa.

That said, I would expect a very high level of scrutiny...the story is not going to make sense.

Just because they withdrew an asylum claim doesn't mean it never happened...it will certainly look like a frivolous claim if they returned to the a country from which they are claiming persecution.

[Boiler 45,912]

I know this is confusing and I could be wrong but I thought they are in Canada, made an asylum claim, withdrew it, now want to 'visit' relatives in the US and make an asylum claims here.

 

I doubt they are poor with all this international travel.

[Timona 4,208]

2 hours ago, Boiler said:

I know this is confusing and I could be wrong but I thought they are in Canada, made an asylum claim, withdrew it, now want to 'visit' relatives in the US and make an asylum claims here.

 

I doubt they are poor with all this international travel.

From what I understand they were, in chronological order:

1. In US then

2. Went to Canada and sought asylum 

3. Withdrew Canadian asylum within a week or so, but all while still in Canada 

4. Flew back to home country from Canada.

5. Now is asking if they can come back to the US and seek US asylum..

 

 

I'm interested to know which country is this we're talking about 

[Boiler 45,912]

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The Safe Third Country Agreement (STCA), in place since 2004, requires refugee claimants to request protection in the first safe country they reach.

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