Covid 19 - Should I just get married?

[payxibka 10,045]

7 minutes ago, RainyJupiter said:

 You know how strong your love it - but remember you need to prove that to a stranger (USCIS agent).

 

Good luck to you whatever you decide.

* consulate offivmcer as the uscis doesn't care how "strong " your love is

[Sierra TC 26]

30 minutes ago, payxibka said:

* consulate offivmcer as the uscis doesn't care how "strong " your love is

You will be hard pressed to prove to an officer that your relationship is legit otherwise but thanks for your opinion.

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[payxibka 10,045]

3 minutes ago, RainyJupiter said:

You will be hard pressed to prove to an officer that your relationship is legit otherwise but thanks for your opinion.

Not opinion.  USCIS doesn't opine to the validity of the relationship,  that responsibility is with the consulate interview 

[JFH 12,190]

1 hour ago, Lucky Cat said:

Imagine if the "meeting within 2 year" rule was discontinued........Can you imagine petitioning a fiance you have seen only online......then see a totally different fiance show up in the US  via the K-1 visa you sponsored him/her for?   

And can you imagine the discussions we would have on the “effects of family changes” - we already have enough “Amazon returns” type questions. I can just see it now - “ordered a blonde, 5 ft 6, size 2 but received a 300-pound brunette with bad breath. Am I entitled to a refund?”

 

Would make an interesting chapter in your book.

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[geowrian 22,337]

26 minutes ago, RainyJupiter said:

You will be hard pressed to prove to an officer that your relationship is legit otherwise but thanks for your opinion.

I think you are misunderstanding the flow and division of duties.

 

USCIS handles the petition. For an I-129F, there is no requirement to provide any relationship evidence (check the instructions to confirm). They have never issued an RFE or denied an I-129F for relationship evidence. They simply don't evaluate if the relationship is valid.

IOs have varying levels of strictness on what they want to see as evidence of intent to marry. Often letters of intent are enough. Sometimes they want to see more firm plans.

 

DOS handles the visa. The COs at the consulate or post will evaluate the validity of the relationship for a K-1 visa.

[dwheels76 5,468]

5 hours ago, retheem said:

Get married and file for CR1, then file for K3 to speed up the process. You will avoid a lot of the pitfalls that K1s tend to come across later in the process

K3 will do nothing but get denied and cancelled. And it sure doesn't speed up anything.

[HRQX 4,145]

14 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

K3 will do nothing but get denied and cancelled.

Very true: "the current need for K-3 and K-4 visas is rare." https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-us-citizens/k-3k-4-nonimmigrant-visas Although I-129F filing for a K-3 attempt is free, the petitioner would still waste ink, paper, and time spent on filling out the I-129F.

[Babu Frik 1,162]

8 hours ago, payxibka said:

All proxy marriage (online or video) require consummation after the fact before recognition for immigration purposes 

 

July 2021 is a long way off.  The world will be a much different place then.  

how do they check consummation, is that also by video? 😄

[geowrian 22,337]

6 minutes ago, Babu Frik said:

how do they check consummation, is that also by video? 😄

Evidence of meeting in person is considered sufficient.

[JFH 12,190]

10 minutes ago, Babu Frik said:

how do they check consummation, is that also by video? 😄

People have sent photos before.... USCIS even had to put a remark in the instructions that “graphic” photographic evidence was not required for evidence of consummation or a bona fide relationship. 
 

There was a thread some years ago where someone had sent a whole bunch of graphic photos including some where the couple engaged in a threesome. And then panicked that these might cause their case to be denied on the grounds that it was not bona fide. 

[JFH 12,190]

6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Evidence of meeting in person is considered sufficient.

With the caveat that the in-person meeting could realistically have resulted in consummation. There was a case where the couple had a proxy wedding as one of them was in prison and the prison did not permit in-person marriage ceremonies, only proxy ones. Although the wife had subsequently visited the incarcerated husband multiple times, it was denied as the visits were not conjugal visits, they were supervised visits in a visiting room at a table. 

[Christy&J 837]

6 hours ago, JFH said:

And can you imagine the discussions we would have on the “effects of family changes” - we already have enough “Amazon returns” type questions. I can just see it now - “ordered a blonde, 5 ft 6, size 2 but received a 300-pound brunette with bad breath. Am I entitled to a refund?”

 

Would make an interesting chapter in your book.

True ! So Agree!!😂

 

I mean for me, when I buy something for long term for example a car, I would like to touch it, see it, feel it, smell it, drive it. Because I want/plan to keep it for a long time. 

 

Marriage (suppose) is for the lifetime. A lifetime is a long time !! 

I know it wont work for some people but for most people even (like me) I spent time like over 4 years living together before move forward with K1 and get married and even when we thought that we know each other good enough it is not same. Leave alone someone that haven't met for long time. People change. Especially havent met for over 2 y?lot of thing could change in 2 years.  

I was a carnivore 2 years ago now I am a vegetarian. 

 

I believe eventhough we claim we know our significant other but with time we always learn something new about our partner.

 

I hope OP would see it as a positive feedback from us not as a negative side.

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[Diane and Chris 651]

13 hours ago, portorusa said:

My friend, a U.S. citizen divorced with the father of her child for 20+ years hasn’t seen him for that long also. Yet they kept contact and good relationship through all those years via phone calls. Her ex-husband lived in Uzbekistan. When they decided to re-unite, she filed for K-1 visa for him. Her application was denied on the basis that the 2 year meeting requirement had not been met. 

Rules are rules.