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Hi,

What about this:

I thought about to visit my husband for 2 weeks in Maryland and apply for the Visa (CR1 and K3) over there the same time. So we could make another few pics of the both of us. Because we dont have any wedding pics at all.So it might be important to show a few more pics at the interview Im sure...it is also important to know where I will go to. I dont think it is clever to tell them I have no idea what america is like because I have never been there before. As far as I know Im able to stay in the US for 90 days without a visa. So is it legal if I would do this?

After visiting him I would return to Germany go on working and get my life slowly settled down. Waiting for the processing and stuff like that.

Thanks for responding

Isabel

OUR TIMELINE

01/20/06...married

02/28/06...NOA1....I-130 VSC

May 2006..Medical in Frankfurt

06/14/06...I-130 approved via email [day 111]

06/19/06...NOA2....I-130 received via mail

07/10/06...talked to embassy to expedite the process

07/12/06...NVC stated case completed and sent to FRANKFURT[day 147]

07/17/06...received packet 3 from embassy

07/29/06...received packet 4

08/15/06...INTERVIEW at 7:30am- APPROVED

08/21/06...VISA received

08/23/06...Flight to US

08/23/06...I am back home

09/20/06...received greencard in mail

09/27/06...received SSC in Mail

09/23/07...our daughter was born :)

30/05/07...filed for Removal of Conditions

07/05/08...received NOA for I-751

01/07/08...college here I come :)

waiting for biometrics and Approval.....

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what if I can proof that I will return to Germany? I dont intend to stay there forever, just for a few weeks.

Isabel

OUR TIMELINE

01/20/06...married

02/28/06...NOA1....I-130 VSC

May 2006..Medical in Frankfurt

06/14/06...I-130 approved via email [day 111]

06/19/06...NOA2....I-130 received via mail

07/10/06...talked to embassy to expedite the process

07/12/06...NVC stated case completed and sent to FRANKFURT[day 147]

07/17/06...received packet 3 from embassy

07/29/06...received packet 4

08/15/06...INTERVIEW at 7:30am- APPROVED

08/21/06...VISA received

08/23/06...Flight to US

08/23/06...I am back home

09/20/06...received greencard in mail

09/27/06...received SSC in Mail

09/23/07...our daughter was born :)

30/05/07...filed for Removal of Conditions

07/05/08...received NOA for I-751

01/07/08...college here I come :)

waiting for biometrics and Approval.....

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Well that really sucks....however thanks a lot

Isabel

OUR TIMELINE

01/20/06...married

02/28/06...NOA1....I-130 VSC

May 2006..Medical in Frankfurt

06/14/06...I-130 approved via email [day 111]

06/19/06...NOA2....I-130 received via mail

07/10/06...talked to embassy to expedite the process

07/12/06...NVC stated case completed and sent to FRANKFURT[day 147]

07/17/06...received packet 3 from embassy

07/29/06...received packet 4

08/15/06...INTERVIEW at 7:30am- APPROVED

08/21/06...VISA received

08/23/06...Flight to US

08/23/06...I am back home

09/20/06...received greencard in mail

09/27/06...received SSC in Mail

09/23/07...our daughter was born :)

30/05/07...filed for Removal of Conditions

07/05/08...received NOA for I-751

01/07/08...college here I come :)

waiting for biometrics and Approval.....

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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Isabel, I suggest you do some more research on this. Many people visit on the VWP while they have a USC spouse without problem.

Kezzie is offering the worst-case scenario.

Now That You Are A Permanent Resident

How Do I Remove The Conditions On Permanent Residence Based On Marriage?

Welcome to the United States: A Guide For New Immigrants

Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

Here are more links that I love:

Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

Met, married, immigrated, naturalized.

I-130 filed Aug02

USC Jul06

No Deje Piedras Sobre El Pavimento!

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I entirely agree with meauxna. I don't want to discount what Kezzie as it is possible but this is our experience.

My husband visited many times on the VWP. When asked whom he was visiting, he always said his wife. I think on one visit, the immigration officer stated to him that his visa wasn't correct because he had a US wife. He subsequently asked what visa he should be using if he was working and living in the UK, wasn't living permanently in the US and just visiting his wife. The immigration officer apparently looked a bit trite and stamped his passport.

However, attorneys have indicated that they are surprised he was able to visit so many times on the VWP. I don't want to say that your experience will be the same as ours. It will depend on individual circumstances.

-Andrea

Edited by stifanoam

Andrea (US) ----- Steve (UK)

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Aug 5 - FedEx AOS/EAD/AP

Aug 8 - MSC received

Aug 11 - NOA1s

Oct 18 - AP Approved

Oct 22 - Biometrics Appt for AOS/EAD

Oct 24 - EAD Approved

Mar 16 - Interview

Mar 21 - AOS Approved

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Turkey
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I wanted to mention as well that my wife has visited me on a non-immigrant visa while we are pending her I-130, or K-3 etc.

We were both nervous as well upon hearing a few warnings and negative experiences from this forum, but her trip went well, and she had no problems entering.

I find the whole system unfair, and the very thought that a person can be sent away with no other eveidence other than the fact that they just happen to be married..(as if ALL married people are born liers and cheats..etc).....a VERY flimsy and I would think challengable reason to send someone away (aka..lawsuit)...

But.....back to the other points that were made here. It IS possible to visit a spouse while on a non-immigrant visa....or perhaps "visa waiver" program.

Don't give up hope.

April 16, 2004 Married in Saint Augustine, Florida.

March 7, 2005 Wife left for Istanbul to serve J-1 2 year HRR. Was a very bad day at Black Rock.

May 23, 2006 USCIS receives application for I-130

June 12, 2006 Noa1

Sept 7, 2006 Noa2 I-130 approved

Oct 10 ,2006 Received fee bill from NVC

Nov 13 ,2006 Received Packet 2 DS-230

Jan 4, 2007 Mailed Packet 2 to NVC

Jan 22, 2007 RFE from NVC aaarrrrgggghhh!!!!!!!!

Feb 28, 2007 NVC received "checklist" response and original documents for the RFE

March 13, 2007 Case completed at NVC! Whoooohoooo!! Ankara, here we come!!!!

March 15, 2007 Case fowarded to Ankara Embassy

April 4, 2007 Interview. Wife gets handed the little green paper. Not good. Need to submit a few more things.

April 9, 2007 Items mailed back to Embassy. Crossing fingers, rubbing the "rabbit's foot", etc,..that this may FINALLY be the end.

April 14, 2007 Visa delivered! Wife is finally going to be on her way back home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

April 20, 2007 Wife enters through JFK. The days of grabbing my dinners at the WalMart deli....are now officially over!!!

Stay tuned to this channel for further updates..........

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In order to be granted admission on a nonimmigrant visa or under the visa waiver program, you must prove that you have a residence outside the U.S. to which you intend to return, at least temporarily. Your entry into and length of stay in the U.S. will be determined at your first U.S. port-of-entry. No one can be guaranteed, prior to their arrival at a U.S. port-of-entry, whether or not they would be granted permission to enter the U.S. This applies whether one is married to a USC, engaged, single whatever. Every traveller to the US is looked on as an intending immigrant. Just be prepared with evidence of strong ties. Even then there is no guarantee. Many are allowed entry, many are not. All the best to you.

Lorelle

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Detailed Review USCIS Alien Security Checks

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thanks very much for the many responses. Hm....it is good to know that there is still an option to visit on a Waiver program. I talked about the visit to my husband again....we are not sure what is better. Because we both think it will be worse to say goodbye again instead of staying there for good. What experiences did you make? It would be very good to visit him, cos then we could set up a flat and all that stuff (he is not able to do that now cos he needs me to be there...the army says). But I really would not know if it just make it harder for the both of us.

Thanks for replies in advance

Isabel

OUR TIMELINE

01/20/06...married

02/28/06...NOA1....I-130 VSC

May 2006..Medical in Frankfurt

06/14/06...I-130 approved via email [day 111]

06/19/06...NOA2....I-130 received via mail

07/10/06...talked to embassy to expedite the process

07/12/06...NVC stated case completed and sent to FRANKFURT[day 147]

07/17/06...received packet 3 from embassy

07/29/06...received packet 4

08/15/06...INTERVIEW at 7:30am- APPROVED

08/21/06...VISA received

08/23/06...Flight to US

08/23/06...I am back home

09/20/06...received greencard in mail

09/27/06...received SSC in Mail

09/23/07...our daughter was born :)

30/05/07...filed for Removal of Conditions

07/05/08...received NOA for I-751

01/07/08...college here I come :)

waiting for biometrics and Approval.....

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Actually that is what my husband did. He came here using VWP. We talked to an immigration specialist. She said he could stay until the end of his 90 days and that once he leaves he should not return until he had a visa.

I-130

2005-09-23 Sent I-130.

2005-10-05 I-130 NOA1

2006-02-19 *touched*

2006-02-21 RFE

2006-03-09 RFE received by CSC

2006-03-29 I-130 NOA2

2006-03-31 *touched*

2006-04-01 *touched*

2006-04-12 NVC assigned case number

I-129F

2005-11-18 I-129F Sent

2005-11-29 I-129F NOA1

2005-12-27 I-129F RFE :(

2006-01-13 I-129F RFE Reply sent.

2006-01-25 *touched*

2006-01-26 I-129F RFE received

2006-04-04 *touched*

2006-04-04 NOA2 **approved!!!**

2006-04-20 NVC assigned case number

2006-04-21 case forwarded to embassy

2006-04-26 packet 3 received

2006-05-02 packet 3 sent

2006-05-04 packet 4 received

2006-05-15 Interview in Stockholm **APPROVED**

2006-05-23 My sweetie is coming home!!

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do I have to translate the documents that proove that I return to my homecountry? Like contract for my flat, work-contract etc?

Thanks Isabel

OUR TIMELINE

01/20/06...married

02/28/06...NOA1....I-130 VSC

May 2006..Medical in Frankfurt

06/14/06...I-130 approved via email [day 111]

06/19/06...NOA2....I-130 received via mail

07/10/06...talked to embassy to expedite the process

07/12/06...NVC stated case completed and sent to FRANKFURT[day 147]

07/17/06...received packet 3 from embassy

07/29/06...received packet 4

08/15/06...INTERVIEW at 7:30am- APPROVED

08/21/06...VISA received

08/23/06...Flight to US

08/23/06...I am back home

09/20/06...received greencard in mail

09/27/06...received SSC in Mail

09/23/07...our daughter was born :)

30/05/07...filed for Removal of Conditions

07/05/08...received NOA for I-751

01/07/08...college here I come :)

waiting for biometrics and Approval.....

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do I have to translate the documents that proove that I return to my homecountry? Like contract for my flat, work-contract etc?

Thanks Isabel

I would

You can find me on FBI

An overview of Security Name Checks And Administrative Review at Service Center, NVC & Consulate levels.

Detailed Review USCIS Alien Security Checks

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11324375801ij.gif

View Timeline HERE

I am but a wench not a lawyer. My advice and opinion is just that. I read, I research, I learn.

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ok thanks very much. I will keep u guys informed

Isabel

OUR TIMELINE

01/20/06...married

02/28/06...NOA1....I-130 VSC

May 2006..Medical in Frankfurt

06/14/06...I-130 approved via email [day 111]

06/19/06...NOA2....I-130 received via mail

07/10/06...talked to embassy to expedite the process

07/12/06...NVC stated case completed and sent to FRANKFURT[day 147]

07/17/06...received packet 3 from embassy

07/29/06...received packet 4

08/15/06...INTERVIEW at 7:30am- APPROVED

08/21/06...VISA received

08/23/06...Flight to US

08/23/06...I am back home

09/20/06...received greencard in mail

09/27/06...received SSC in Mail

09/23/07...our daughter was born :)

30/05/07...filed for Removal of Conditions

07/05/08...received NOA for I-751

01/07/08...college here I come :)

waiting for biometrics and Approval.....

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: England
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I tried to visit my wife and despite having evidence of ties was denied entry as being married and having an Immigrant visa in process it was immigrant intent. I was advised to get a B-2 visitor visa which I was also denied on the grounds of immigrant intent because of the I-130 in process.

Good Luck whatever you decided.

I would suggest flying from an airport that has CBP in the departure airport ie Dublin/Shannon to save the double heartache of rejection and having a 10-12 hour flight back home.

David (UK) - Melissa (OH)

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