Naturalized Canadian Citizen born in Afghanistan- I don't have a birth certificate

[Mimi21 3]

Hi, I was 9 years old when I came to Canada from Afghanistan and then I became a Canadian citizen after a year.

 

I don't have a birth certificate and reading the following website it says "All Afghan citizens should be able to present a tazkera (national identity document) as proof of their identity and their birth place.".  https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Afghanistan.html 

 

I am just confused if I need a national identity document from Afghanistan or not because I reside in Canada. 

 

[designguy 1,179]

A birth certificate is a required document, regardless of where you live

[HRQX 4,145]

6 minutes ago, designguy said:

A birth certificate is a required document, regardless of where you live

But for Afghan births, DOS explicitly says "Not required for IV purposes, see Comments below"

[designguy 1,179]

1 minute ago, HRQX said:

But for Afghan births, DOS explicitly says "Not required for IV purposes, see Comments below"

Right but in the comments it states a different document that can be used to evidence birth, which the OP also doesnt seem to have.  OP will still need a document evidencing birth otherwise they will need to give an explanation why the document could not be provided.

 

See this thread:

 

[Mimi21 3]

5 minutes ago, HRQX said:

But for Afghan births, DOS explicitly says "Not required for IV purposes, see Comments below"

Yes, that's why I am confused because in the comments it says: 

 

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Comments:  All Afghan citizens should be able to present a tazkera (national identity document) as proof of their identity and their birth place.  Kart tawalod may be considered as supplementary documentation but should not be utilized as primary evidence of date and/or place of birth or identity.  Please refer to the National ID section for information on tazkeras.

So I am not sure if this would apply to me since I don't have that national identity card. 

[HRQX 4,145]

3 minutes ago, Mimi21 said:

So I am not sure if this would apply to me since I don't have that national identity card. 

Have you tried getting it at an Afghan consulate? http://afghanconsulatevancouver.org/site/web/birth_certificate "or those, who have not obtained a Tazkira or whose Tazkiras were lost – can submit a written application to obtain a new one."

Edited July 17, 2020 by HRQX

[Mimi21 3]

12 hours ago, HRQX said:

Have you tried getting it at an Afghan consulate? http://afghanconsulatevancouver.org/site/web/birth_certificate "or those, who have not obtained a Tazkira or whose Tazkiras were lost – can submit a written application to obtain a new one."

I called them and they said they provide one with a national identity card but it has some requirements such as having a representative in Afghanistan who will "follow" the case and then eventually go to the capital city and pick it up. It is difficult for me to find a represntative. 

 

The US travel website says that the birth certificate is "Not required for IV purposes, see Comments below" and then states "All Afghan citizens should be able to present a tazkera (national identity document) as proof of their identity and their birth place." What I am trying to figure out is that since they don't require a birth certificate for Afghans and just require a national identity document what would the problem be with me using my Canadian passport (which has birth place) as well as my Canadian citizenship documents. 
 

So I am wondering if this condition applies to me where I have to provide an Afghan national identity card when I only have Canadian documents and haven't visited Afghanistan ever since I came to Canada as a child.

Thanks for all the help!

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Mimi21

[JeanneAdil 6,606]

Have you thought to find out what documents Canada required for the naturalizaiton?

there could have been a record of your birth filed when you were 8

[Henry357 70]

23 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

Have you thought to find out what documents Canada required for the naturalizaiton?

there could have been a record of your birth filed when you were 8

Likely refugee documents.   My friend had similar issue and they took his UN documents. 

[AJ2019 58]

You may have to contact the Canada embassy to see if they can issue you a certified birth certificate. If you already are a Canada citizen, they should be able to produce this for you.

[designguy 1,179]

1 hour ago, AJ2019 said:

You may have to contact the Canada embassy to see if they can issue you a certified birth certificate. If you already are a Canada citizen, they should be able to produce this for you.

How would the canadian embassy produce an afghan birth certificate?

[AJ2019 58]

3 hours ago, designguy said:

How would the canadian embassy produce an afghan birth certificate?

Not an Afghan Birth Certificate. A Canada Certificate of Birth Abroad. It should be something that’s issued via the Canadian Embassy. 

[Lil bear 4,283]

37 minutes ago, AJ2019 said:

Not an Afghan Birth Certificate. A Canada Certificate of Birth Abroad. It should be something that’s issued via the Canadian Embassy. 

They are only issued for those who are citizens at birth .. not those who became citizens by naturalisation 

[Mimi21 3]

On 7/18/2020 at 12:08 PM, JeanneAdil said:

Have you thought to find out what documents Canada required for the naturalizaiton?

there could have been a record of your birth filed when you were 8

Good news! I found my birth certificate which was used for naturalization in Canada. It is from a hospital in Afghanistan. I hope this is sufficient and I don’t have to provide a tazkira. 
 

Thank you

Edited August 19, 2020 by Mimi21

[HRQX 4,145]

20 hours ago, Mimi21 said:

I hope this is sufficient and I don’t have to provide a tazkira.

The link in your first post says: "All Afghan applicants applying for U.S. immigrant, special immigrant, or other such visas must present a tazkera, regardless of whether they also choose to submit a kart tawalod."

 

Sounds like the document you found is Kart Tawalod (Da Zokry Sanad).