I-693 medical exam duration

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10 minutes ago, Ayrton said:

From the received date on the NOA, I assume.

 

My tip is: Don't do your medical before filing the forms. You're not required to. Your AOS can take years depending on where you live. I would reschedule the medical to close to the interview.

 

 

That might be a good idea. I might look into canceling my appointment for tomorrow. If not, I guess i'll just do it and hope it processes before it expires.

 

Thanks!

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11 hours ago, Ayrton said:

The exam can't be more than 60 days older than the date of filing the underlying petition, which is the I-130.

Can't be more than 60 days older than the date of I-485 filing. https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-4 "The civil surgeon signs Form I-693 no more than 60 days before the applicant files the underlying benefit application with USCIS"

11 hours ago, Ayrton said:

The foreign medical done by a K1 applicant is only valid for 1 year.

If the I-485 is filed within 1 year of the foreign medical (and the foreign medical didn't reveal a Class A medical condition) then it's still valid; i.e. it doesn't matter when I-485 interview takes place: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-3 "K and V nonimmigrants applying for adjustment of status are not required to repeat the medical examination if the application was filed within one year of the date of the original medical examination"

10 hours ago, portorusa said:

What about the foreign medical done by a CR1 applicant?

You aren't a "K or V" AOS applicant, thus you can't use the CR-1 medical for AOS purposes.

Edited July 18, 2020 by HRQX

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12 hours ago, portorusa said:

What about the foreign medical done by a CR1 applicant? For how long is it valid?

We abandoned Consular Processing and filed for AOS but the medical was done in France.

Same for us..

 

CR1/IR1 medical done overseas are only valid for 6 months.

 

if you came here like me on VWP or b2 post medical, pre CR1 interview and adjusted, due to covid, it will expire before the AOS interview, so a new one is required. 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Duke & Marie

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23 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

if you came here like me on VWP or b2 post medical, pre CR1 interview and adjusted, due to covid, it will expire before the AOS interview, so a new one is required. 

The specific reason CR-1 medical exams can't be used for AOS purposes is because they aren't "K or V Nonimmigrants Applying for Adjustment" https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-3

 

K visa category medicals don't expire if they don't reveal a Class A medical condition and the application was filed within one year of the date of the original medical examination. So it doesn't matter when K-1 AOS applicants have I-485 interview.

Edited July 18, 2020 by HRQX

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16 hours ago, Ayrton said:

 

VJ has people with all kind os visas and AOS. 

 

The foreign medical done by a K1 applicant is only valid for 1 year. 

 

The medical done inside of the US is valid for 2 years and can't be more than 60 days older from the filing date of the I-130.

K1 visa medical is only valid for 6 months.. That's what I've been tokd

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12 minutes ago, nics222 said:

K1 visa medical is only valid for 6 months.. That's what I've been tokd

6 months for visa expiration date purposes: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/exams/ti/panel/tuberculosis-panel-technical-instructions.html "Travel clearance is valid for 6 months from the time the evaluation is complete."

 

For AOS adjudication purposes, K visa category medicals don't expire if they don't reveal a Class A medical condition and the I-485 was filed within one year of the date of the original medical examination.

Edited July 18, 2020 by HRQX

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5 hours ago, HRQX said:

Can't be more than 60 days older than the date of I-485 filing. https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-4 "The civil surgeon signs Form I-693 no more than 60 days before the applicant files the underlying benefit application with USCIS"

If the I-485 is filed within 1 year of the foreign medical (and the foreign medical didn't reveal a Class A medical condition) then it's still valid; i.e. it doesn't matter when I-485 interview takes place: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-3 "K and V nonimmigrants applying for adjustment of status are not required to repeat the medical examination if the application was filed within one year of the date of the original medical examination"

You aren't a "K or V" AOS applicant, thus you can't use the CR-1 medical for AOS purposes.

The Underlying Application is not the 485. For AOS from K1 is the I-129f and and for AOS from other visas is the I-130.

 

And for the K1. That's exactly what I meant.

 

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Ayrton

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5 hours ago, Ayrton said:

The Underlying Application is not the 485.

I-130 is a petition, not an application. That policy manual is very clear. It's referring to the I-485 as the "underlying benefit application."

The signed and completed I-693 supports the I-485. That's why I-485 is "underlying" to the I-693.

Edited July 18, 2020 by HRQX

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11 minutes ago, HRQX said:

I-130 is a petition, not an application. That policy manual is very clear. It's referring to the I-485 as the "underlying benefit application."

The signed and completed I-693 supports the I-485. That's why I-485 is "underlying" to the I-693.

I agree to disagree. 

 

I-130 is the underlying petition/application. 485 is not an underlying application to the 693. The 693 is a support document to the 485.

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1 hour ago, Ayrton said:

I-130 is the underlying petition/application. 485 is not an underlying application to the 693.

Still very incorrect! USCIS PM Volume 8, Part B, Chapter 4 is very clear.

 

Also, I-485 instructions and I-693 instructions are clear:

https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-485instr-pc.pdf Page 15

https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-693instr.pdf Page 1

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10 hours ago, HRQX said:

The specific reason CR-1 medical exams can't be used for AOS purposes is because they aren't "K or V Nonimmigrants Applying for Adjustment" https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-3

 

K visa category medicals don't expire if they don't reveal a Class A medical condition and the application was filed within one year of the date of the original medical examination. So it doesn't matter when K-1 AOS applicants have I-485 interview.

I believe in both @portorusaand My cases ARE adjusting from a non-immigrant status.. you can’t adjust from CR1..

 

it just so happens we both have had the CR1/IR1 medical’s done by USCIS nominated surgeons as part of consular processing.. likely using the same surgeons used by k1 and other visa applicants and the same forms.. the main difference being CR1 medical expire 6 months from date of issue, which would be too soon for the AOS process.. 

 

I think the doc you linked works on the assumption that CR1 would finalise that process (since at interview stage) rather than start over via AOS, so fails to mention it, dropping us into standard AOS process saying needs it done by US surgeons 

 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Duke & Marie

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10 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

by USCIS nominated surgeons as part of consular processing..

DOS Panel Physicians

10 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

as part of consular processing.. likely using the same surgeons used by k1 and other visa applicants and the same forms.. the main difference being CR1 medical expire 6 months from date of issue, which would be too soon for the AOS process..

The 6 months for all Panel Physician exams refers to visa expiration date purposes: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/exams/ti/panel/tuberculosis-panel-technical-instructions.html "Travel clearance is valid for 6 months from the time the evaluation is complete."

 

Even individuals that recently did a K-1 medical but abandoned the K-1 process and then AOS from B-2 or VWP can't use the K-1 medical for AOS purposes. Must have entered the US in K (K-1, K-2, K-3, and K-4) or V nonimmigrant category.

Edited July 18, 2020 by HRQX

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18 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

I think the doc you linked works on the assumption that CR1 would finalise that process (since at interview stage) rather than start over via AOS, so fails to mention it, dropping us into standard AOS process saying needs it done by US surgeons

That Policy Manual says that those who entered the US in K or V nonimmigrant category can use the foreign medical. Everyone else eventually need a completed I-693 for I-485 adjudication.

Edited July 18, 2020 by HRQX

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8 minutes ago, HRQX said:

DOS Panel Physicians

The 6 months for all Panel Physician exams refers to visa expiration date purposes: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/exams/ti/panel/tuberculosis-panel-technical-instructions.html "Travel clearance is valid for 6 months from the time the evaluation is complete."

 

Even individuals that recently did a K-1 medical but abandoned the K-1 process and then AOS from B-2 or VWP can't use the K-1 medical for AOS purposes. Must have entered the US in K (K-1, K-2, K-3, and K-4) or V nonimmigrant category.

I think you missed my point.. K/V etc specifically take into account that AOS will occur post entry... so of course it’s written that way..same for other non immigrants e.g. B2 AOS.. would need medical done here in the US.. the document has a natural assumption with regard to IR1/CR1 that the medical done post DQ, Pre-Interviews would accompany the applicant to the CR1/IR1 interview at the consulate and not be needed or used for AOS process since AOS wouldn’t apply. It wouldn’t make the medical any less creditable than a K1 however.. 

Edited July 18, 2020 by Duke & Marie

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19 minutes ago, HRQX said:

 

The 6 months for all Panel Physician exams refers to visa expiration date purposes: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/exams/ti/panel/tuberculosis-panel-technical-instructions.html "Travel clearance is valid for 6 months from the time the evaluation is complete."

 

Immigrant medical are slightly different.. DOS clearly states https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Supplements/Supplements_by_Post/SYD-Sydney.html#medical_exam_instructions

 

Medical reports are valid for three (3) or six (6) months from the date of examination, depending on the examination results. Your visa will be limited to the expiry date of the medical exam unless your Federal police certificate expires sooner, in which case your visa will be limited to this date.