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Will Merit-Based Immigration Affect K-1s?

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Poland
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11 hours ago, James120383 said:

 

Congress hasnt passed an immigration bill for 25 years. So if you need to chill.. read that again. Congress track record and interest to change status quo is zero. Silly donald think he is a king and. can pass EO for citizenship. 

Yes, I absolutely agree with you. I just had very little knowledge about what a merit-based system would entail, and I had to do some research about it. Any time anything about immigration comes up, people who are in this process (like I am) or who are considering this process can get anxious about such things. I'm just trying to allay other people's concerns the way I had to with my own. 

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11 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

You know under Merit based immigration systems people can still petition their fiance, spouses, and children right? You just wouldn't be able to petition your parents and/or siblings. That is how other countries like Australia and Canada do it. 

You get "points" under the merit system for Canada at least, if you have family there. I don't recall how many points it is, but I have some family over there. You're correct they generally speaking can't just petition you outright. 

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1 hour ago, theballaam96 said:

If you're already in the K-1 process, (AKA myself and my fiancee's petition is at the NVC waiting to be sent to the US Embassy in London), do you think we would be affected?

Although current immigration law give the executive branch quite a bit of discretion, switching to a merit-based model is clearly beyond the scope of what can be done with an executive order or regulatory changes and anyone claiming otherwise is just trolling.

 

Beyond that, the only ways marriage-based immigration has been affected by anything done recently has been incidental side effects (neglecting to exclude marriage based AOS or at least AOS from K visas from the I-944 requirement; more general visa bans or suspensions of routine visa services; etc), and there's no one of consequence in either party arguing for doing so. Don't worry about it.

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

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1 hour ago, DaveAndAnastasia said:

(neglecting to exclude marriage based AOS or at least AOS from K visas from the I-944 requirement;

Why should K-1 and/or other marriage-based AOS applicants be exempt from I-944 requirement? The form instructions state: "If you do not have a credit report or credit score, provide documentation that demonstrates that you do not have a credit report or score with a credit bureau." They can call the credit bureaus for a letter stating that:

It wasn't an unintentional mistake: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/policymanual/resources/Appendix-PublicChargeApplicabilitytoFamily-BasedAOS.pdf Page 2

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56 minutes ago, HRQX said:

Why should K-1 and/or other marriage-based AOS applicants be exempt from I-944 requirement? The form instructions state: "If you do not have a credit report or credit score, provide documentation that demonstrates that you do not have a credit report or score with a credit bureau." They can call the credit bureaus for a letter stating that:

It wasn't an unintentional mistake: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/policymanual/resources/Appendix-PublicChargeApplicabilitytoFamily-BasedAOS.pdf Page 2

Not only that, but certainly not every K-1 visa is the couple’s only history in the US. Many were former students, workers, etc., so previous tax returns and credit info applies.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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3 hours ago, HRQX said:

Why should K-1 and/or other marriage-based AOS applicants be exempt from I-944 requirement? 

Because your spouse is expected to be able to support you, and in fact has to provide an affidavit saying that he or she will.

 

And virtually all of what's required by that form is largely meaningless for someone who's only been in the US for a short time, which is the case for the overwhelming majority of people adjusting from a K-1, and a pretty large chunk of other marriage-based AOS too (as much as we here on VJ tend to think in many cases AOS from tourist visas, ESTA/VWP, and visa-free travel from Canada is kind of sketchy, it happens quite a lot).

K-1                             AOS                            
NOA1 Notice Date: 2018-05-31    NOA1 Notice Date: 2019-04-11   
NOA2 Date: 2018-11-16           Biometrics Date: 2019-05-10    
Arrived at NVC:  2018-12-03     EAD/AP In Hand: 2019-09-16     
Arrived in Moscow: 2018-12-28   GC Interview Date: 2019-09-25      
Interview date: 2019-02-14      GC In Hand: 2019-10-02
Visa issued: 2019-02-28
POE: 2019-03-11
Wedding: 2019-03-14

ROC                             Naturalization
NOA1 Notice Date: 2021-07-16    Applied Online: 2022-07-09 (biometrics waived)
Approval Date: 2022-04-06       Interview was Scheduled: 2023-01-06
10-year GC In Hand: 2022-04-14  Interview date: 2023-02-13 (passed)
                            	Oath: 2023-02-13

 

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1 hour ago, DaveAndAnastasia said:

And virtually all of what's required by that form is largely meaningless for someone who's only been in the US for a short time,

But a blanket exception for all K-1 AOS applicants is not the answer.

 

Overall, I-944 is a tool for INA 212(a)(4)(B)(i) purposes: "In determining whether an alien is inadmissible under this paragraph, the consular officer or the Attorney General shall at a minimum consider the alien's- (I) age; (II) health; (III) family status; (IV) assets, resources, and financial status; and (V) education and skills."

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4 hours ago, DaveAndAnastasia said:

and in fact has to provide an affidavit saying that he or she will.

So do spouses of marriage-based Immigrant Visa applicants. Yet, COs can ask the Immigrant Visa applicant to submit DS-5540 at the interview. Both DS-5540 and I-944 have similar section headings:

  1. Information About You
  2. Health Insurance
  3. Your Household Size
  4. Your Assets, Resources, and Financial Status
  5. Your Education and Skills

The practical difference between DS-5540 and I-944 is that DS-5540 doesn't ask for US credit report or score from the Immigrant Visa applicant.

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Thread is moved from the K-1 Process forum to the General Immigration Discussion forum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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