Jump to content

388 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Posted
1 hour ago, jackanddeona said:

It makes zero sense to protect Canada by refusing to allow canadians to immigrate the US. In fact by doing that they are increasing the number of Americans who can travel here based on exemptions.

There are other consulates doing interviews so its obviously not to protect the states. Just because people are emotional doesn't mean they aren't rational. There is no valid reason for montreal to be closed compared to some other consulates that are open. 

So you don't see that by preventing people from immigrating to a country with an out of control system and a heavy price tag health care system as protecting their citizens?  I do.  I get what you're saying, because yes they're leaving Canada, but just because you leave Canada doesn't mean Canada doesn't protect you.  I don't mean anyone is protecting the USA, if you perceived that, you misunderstood.  However the US Consulate in Montreal doesn't need to follow Canada rules so whatever they're doing is up to them.  I'm just trying to suggest a reason and your response shows you haven't thought of that reason, or decided it doesn't fit with your narrative. Whatever the case, it doesn't matter.

 

As per visiting: if you visit your spouse in Canada, you are supposed to self isolate for 2 weeks before you can even visit with your spouse.   Obviously people don't do this properly, they just quarantine with their spouse.  Hopefully they are actually quarantining and not just saying yes they are and still getting groceries and going to work etc... But I don't trust people to do the right thing since they can't even wear masks properly.  Probably why Canada has had a rise in cases.  Now I get to continue to worry about my whole family including my aged parents, one who just left the hospital after having a stroke, and my immuno-compromised family and friends.  Every American that visits Canada just prolongs the issue IMO. 

 

Should they open?  Yes I think they should. Don't assume I think otherwise.  There are obviously safety practices they could be employing just like hair dressers, doctors, and dentists do.  I try to believe there are reasons for them not opening and one being the border opening and our rampant unchecked COVID-19 in the USA.    

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted
38 minutes ago, jackanddeona said:

I saw that you were trying to suggest a reason. I'm saying I disagree with it. Furthering that, you implying that because the situation is emotional means that people can't be logical was the major point I was disagreeing with. I'm not going to convince you to change your opinion and I wasn't trying to. But trying to imply because people are emotional they can't see the reason behind choices is just wrong.

 

I am emotional about this but I can clearly see that other consulates are making decisions that are based in logic and safety that are different than montreal. On top of that montreal has not given a valid safety or logistical reason for why they have not started other than local conditions. The conditions in montreal are better than some that are opening. 

 

I am not someone who tries to create a narrative. I am comparing the decisions being made in montreal to other branches of the same organization around the world based on the criteria they gave me. To be honest it sounds like you are creating a narrative to try and explain away why people deserve to be frustrated with montreal. You have the choice to visit your daughter. It might not make sense financially or safety wise which is your choice. Our choice has been taken from us and they won't even give a valid reason why. If like you said its to protect people from going somewhere they are unsafe then give people extensions who prefer to wait. But as far as I know once I'm in the US I am no longer Canada's problem medically.

 

You are incorrect in the self isolation requirements you are relaying. I have done research and called the phone number the government of Canada provides and you can quarantine with family provided you have your own sleeping arrangement, bathroom and maintain physical distancing. Barring that you can have your family isolate with you if you don't want to do that. But I wasnt talking about visits I was specifically replying to your reasoning for montreal not doing interviews even though they have clear direction to continue.

 

And as a final note no I don't believe or agree with the idea that either government is worried about what is best for me but that is not a discussion that needs to happen here.

Agreed- also Quebec is now allowing public gatherings for up to 250 people and opened up casinos......

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, jackanddeona said:

I saw that you were trying to suggest a reason. I'm saying I disagree with it. Furthering that, you implying that because the situation is emotional means that people can't be logical was the major point I was disagreeing with. I'm not going to convince you to change your opinion and I wasn't trying to. But trying to imply because people are emotional they can't see the reason behind choices is just wrong.

 

I am emotional about this but I can clearly see that other consulates are making decisions that are based in logic and safety that are different than montreal. On top of that montreal has not given a valid safety or logistical reason for why they have not started other than local conditions. The conditions in montreal are better than some that are opening. 

 

I am not someone who tries to create a narrative. I am comparing the decisions being made in montreal to other branches of the same organization around the world based on the criteria they gave me. To be honest it sounds like you are creating a narrative to try and explain away why people deserve to be frustrated with montreal. You have the choice to visit your daughter. It might not make sense financially or safety wise which is your choice. Our choice has been taken from us and they won't even give a valid reason why. If like you said its to protect people from going somewhere they are unsafe then give people extensions who prefer to wait. But as far as I know once I'm in the US I am no longer Canada's problem medically.

 

You are incorrect in the self isolation requirements you are relaying. I have done research and called the phone number the government of Canada provides and you can quarantine with family provided you have your own sleeping arrangement, bathroom and maintain physical distancing. Barring that you can have your family isolate with you if you don't want to do that. But I wasnt talking about visits I was specifically replying to your reasoning for montreal not doing interviews even though they have clear direction to continue.

 

And as a final note no I don't believe or agree with the idea that either government is worried about what is best for me but that is not a discussion that needs to happen here.

I understand. Good points.  We will agree to disagree that emotions can cloud judgment and logic. While some people can make logical decisions while emotional, majority cannot imo based on life experience. 

Edited by NikLR

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, NikLR said:

I understand. Good points.  We will agree to disagree that emotions can cloud judgment and logic. While some people can make logical decisions while emotional, majority cannot imo based on life experience. 

That I can agree with. I guess I should have phrased that better in that not everyone who is emotional isn't making a valid point. Regardless of why they are making the decisions they are a little transparency would help but that is not something any government agency willingly does. So i'll just keep twiddling my thumbs.

Edited by jackanddeona
Posted
2 hours ago, Zaraliaya said:

For those who haven't seen this yet: 

TLDR: They still don't know when they are going to process the visas.

So, essentially,  don't hold your breath. 

 

Thanks for the update. It amazes me how its still closed. Canada is kicking covid's butt. There is no reason the closure should continue. Still in limbo....

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

I am sharing this information on a couple of boards, I apologize if it is a duplicate reading to anyone. 

 

Based on today’s video released by the Montreal consulate, they are blaming the Quebec government in restricting them from reopening. 

 

According to the Quebec COVID guidelines, however, the consulate should be allowed to open under the exemption: ” service firms in respect of activities that cannot be carried out through teleworking.  Visa interviews have to be conducted in person. If casinos can be open and gatherings up to 250 people held, there is no reason why the consulate could not be conducting our interviews. https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coronavirus/reopening-maintaining-economic-activities-covid-19/

 

I have contacted the below addresses asking for them to allow Montreal to reopen, sharing in case anyone else who is waiting for Montreal to open wishes to do the same:

 

·         Lodge a complaint with the Quebec: https://www.quebec.ca/en/how-to-reach-us/complaints/

·         Contact Mr. Legault (Quebec Premier): https://www.premier-ministre.gouv.qc.ca/premier-ministre/joindre-pm/courriel/index-en.asp

·         Email for Deputy Prime Minister Freeland:  DPM-VPM@dpmo-cvpm.gc.ca

Posted
36 minutes ago, Lovenature said:

I am sharing this information on a couple of boards, I apologize if it is a duplicate reading to anyone. 

 

Based on today’s video released by the Montreal consulate, they are blaming the Quebec government in restricting them from reopening. 

 

According to the Quebec COVID guidelines, however, the consulate should be allowed to open under the exemption: ” service firms in respect of activities that cannot be carried out through teleworking.  Visa interviews have to be conducted in person. If casinos can be open and gatherings up to 250 people held, there is no reason why the consulate could not be conducting our interviews. https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coronavirus/reopening-maintaining-economic-activities-covid-19/

 

I have contacted the below addresses asking for them to allow Montreal to reopen, sharing in case anyone else who is waiting for Montreal to open wishes to do the same:

 

·         Lodge a complaint with the Quebec: https://www.quebec.ca/en/how-to-reach-us/complaints/

·         Contact Mr. Legault (Quebec Premier): https://www.premier-ministre.gouv.qc.ca/premier-ministre/joindre-pm/courriel/index-en.asp

·         Email for Deputy Prime Minister Freeland:  DPM-VPM@dpmo-cvpm.gc.ca

Looks like it. Thanks for the links. I'll do my part.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted
1 hour ago, Lovenature said:

I am sharing this information on a couple of boards, I apologize if it is a duplicate reading to anyone. 

 

Based on today’s video released by the Montreal consulate, they are blaming the Quebec government in restricting them from reopening. 

 

According to the Quebec COVID guidelines, however, the consulate should be allowed to open under the exemption: ” service firms in respect of activities that cannot be carried out through teleworking.  Visa interviews have to be conducted in person. If casinos can be open and gatherings up to 250 people held, there is no reason why the consulate could not be conducting our interviews. https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/a-z/2019-coronavirus/reopening-maintaining-economic-activities-covid-19/

 

I have contacted the below addresses asking for them to allow Montreal to reopen, sharing in case anyone else who is waiting for Montreal to open wishes to do the same:

 

·         Lodge a complaint with the Quebec: https://www.quebec.ca/en/how-to-reach-us/complaints/

·         Contact Mr. Legault (Quebec Premier): https://www.premier-ministre.gouv.qc.ca/premier-ministre/joindre-pm/courriel/index-en.asp

·         Email for Deputy Prime Minister Freeland:  DPM-VPM@dpmo-cvpm.gc.ca

Thanks for the links. I will send some strongly worded email 😂. I’m sure many of us are extremely frustrated so if we can get more people to pressure it would be helpful.

Posted

I wonder if it's really true that "Quebec won't allow them to open" when the other countries' consulates in Montreal are open? Speculation on my part: it makes me think that perhaps there was some paperwork that Quebec required for them to fill, to make sure they have made accommodations/are following guidelines and the US consulate just looked the other way and pretended that "local conditions don't allow for the resumption of services" when they could be operating at least at some capacity.

 

They also send the most condescending emails sometimes,  I'm not stupid, I know covid is making things harder for everyone. But if my workplace, like many others in Montreal, has been at full capacity since July, what gives???

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted
20 minutes ago, Ver&S said:

I wonder if it's really true that "Quebec won't allow them to open" when the other countries' consulates in Montreal are open? Speculation on my part: it makes me think that perhaps there was some paperwork that Quebec required for them to fill, to make sure they have made accommodations/are following guidelines and the US consulate just looked the other way and pretended that "local conditions don't allow for the resumption of services" when they could be operating at least at some capacity.

 

They also send the most condescending emails sometimes,  I'm not stupid, I know covid is making things harder for everyone. But if my workplace, like many others in Montreal, has been at full capacity since July, what gives???

The office thing is correct. Quebec only allows 25% of the office to go into work. And they kinda don't even want the 25% less is even better. I work at an office downtown Montreal, and we've been WFH since March, and hardly anyone has gone into the office, and HR still doesn't know when we can. Even when they allow it, they still have to abide by the 6 feet rule, masks etc, so it's kinda annoying for them.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Zaraliaya said:

The office thing is correct. Quebec only allows 25% of the office to go into work. And they kinda don't even want the 25% less is even better. I work at an office downtown Montreal, and we've been WFH since March, and hardly anyone has gone into the office, and HR still doesn't know when we can. Even when they allow it, they still have to abide by the 6 feet rule, masks etc, so it's kinda annoying for them.

Thanks, I didn't know it was so restrictive office wise. We are back 100% in Verdun but it's a research setting, so we stagger/use different rooms and we are used to the masks/shields. In any case, they are not working at 25% if they haven't processed visas that had already been interviewed, I think if they really were at 25% they'd had progressed much more than they actually have. But maybe I'm breaking my back at work and they are not as motivated with theirs. I'm just very frustrated, sorry =(

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted
2 minutes ago, Ver&S said:

Thanks, I didn't know it was so restrictive office wise. We are back 100% in Verdun but it's a research setting, so we stagger/use different rooms and we are used to the masks/shields. In any case, they are not working at 25% if they haven't processed visas that had already been interviewed, I think if they really were at 25% they'd had progressed much more than they actually have. But maybe I'm breaking my back at work and they are not as motivated with theirs. I'm just very frustrated, sorry =(

It's fine, some offices can be more the 25% if they are like non-sit down offices I believe, its in this link (quebec link). 

It is kinda silly though, that the Casino is open, and that's def a confined space compared to an office, lol

 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...