Florida Teen Who Contracted Coronavirus Dies After Mother Took Her to Church Party, Then Treated Her With Hydroxychloroquine

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

38 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

This is one situation that's completely incomprehensible to me.  How* could ANY parent FORGET that their own child (or anyone else's) is in the vehicle with them?

 

*maybe if they're unduly engrossed on their cell phone, which is still inexcusable

I asked that question on FB once, some mothers seemed to think it is possible under some circumstances. I cant imagine the living horror of having done that accidentally. I knew a girl that backed over and killed he own kid. She was never right again.

 

A certain brand of  2020 Mid range SUV, has a much touted  new feature that reminds you to check the back seat.  It was not an Ohhhh moment for me.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

At best some don't have a parental instinct, and much like the risk someone runs of lung cancer from smoking, there's a risk that absent instinct plays a starring role in their child's death. For myself and sisters, it was amazing that we all survived to adulthood. But the more I investigate this the more I realized it was part of a cycle, and for many others, it's the same way. Their parents suffered the same, and their parents and so on. Like any other obstacle in life, we can choose to simply be another victim of fate (things that are put upon us that we didn't do but inherit that can be detrimental) or we can observe, learn, and set a new course. 

[Dashinka 24,500]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I asked that question on FB once, some mothers seemed to think it is possible under some circumstances. I cant imagine the living horror of having done that accidentally. I knew a girl that backed over and killed he own kid. She was never right again.

 

A certain brand of  2020 Mid range SUV, has a much touted  new feature that reminds you to check the back seat.  It was not an Ohhhh moment for me.

This feature has been around at least two years on some models.  I know the SUV I am currently driving has this feature and anytime I open a back door, and then drive for any length of time, I get that warning.  Helps me remember the groceries in the back seat.

[beloved_dingo 1,979]

Hot car deaths are so sad  We always get a few here during the warmer months since it gets 90+ often in the summer (with the heat index well over 100 thanks to our absurd humidity). When it happens there's always a lot of outrage (which of course is understandable) but for those cases where it was truly accidental - what a horrible tragedy for the children and the family involved. I've seen a few cases where it seems to be because of a change in morning routine - like the parent that usually goes straight to work is supposed to drop off a child at daycare, but they go on autopilot and just head to work instead. In other cases...well, some people just don't deserve to have children.

[yuna628 9,676]

Wanted to also note a few other things I read in other articles: the girl's oxygen was too low so this is why they gave her the grandfather's oxygen. The oxygen level had fallen below anything simple oxygen could handle and no doubt she would have already been suffering extreme damage to her body by that point. Still they kept on doing this for days. I have to tell you, when I rushed my dad to the ER he was also hypoxic to the point he was barely conscious and when he was 'awake' there was nothing but gibberish happening. He was like this for just a few hours... this girl was like this for days. By the time they took her somewhere, she had to be transferred to a children's special hospital. Once there, her state was so critical the parents continued to deny the doctor's trying to save her life with a ventilator and also tried to interfere with other methods of treatment. Once they agreed to the ventilator she was now a vegetable and had to be transported via helicopter to another location. The parents decided to take her off life support because she was pretty much dead by then.

 

COVID causes great and unimaginable suffering to those who are severely afflicted. Can't imagine the suffering this child endured.

Edited July 8, 2020 by yuna628

[OriZ 3,157]

4 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Wanted to also note a few other things I read in other articles: the girl's oxygen was too low so this is why they gave her the grandfather's oxygen. The oxygen level had fallen below anything simple oxygen could handle and no doubt she would have already been suffering extreme damage to her body by that point. Still they kept on doing this for days. I have to tell you, when I rushed my dad to the ER he was also hypoxic to the point he was barely conscious and when he was 'awake' there was nothing but gibberish happening. He was like this for just a few hours... this girl was like this for days. By the time they took her somewhere, she had to be transferred to a children's special hospital. Once there, her state was so critical the parents continued to deny the doctor's trying to save her life with a ventilator and also tried to interfere with other methods of treatment. Once they agreed to the ventilator she was now a vegetable and had to be transported via helicopter to another location. The parents decided to take her off life support because she was pretty much dead by then.

 

COVID causes great and unimaginable suffering to those who are severely afflicted. Can't imagine the suffering this child endured.

Couldn't imagine. My wife had colon surgery in late August last year, and about 5 days later, when they were getting ready to send her home the next day, ended up in v-fib which lasted about 17 seconds. However that was a long enough time that after she somehow woke up to wake me up(it was 5:30am) to call the nurse, because she knew something wasn't right although she wasn't sure what it was, she laid back down to what I thought was her falling asleep. However she was making really weird sounds fighting through some foam that she apparently had, so after a few minutes I tried to wake her up, to no avail. Then the nurse tried, then another nurse, then a whole Stat team. Nobody could figure out what the problem was. She ended up being totally unresponsive for about 2 hours...turns out, her blood oxygen fell to like 42. Luckily it doesn't seem like there was any long term damage, but lack of oxygen isn't something to play around with. Everyone should have a little pulse ox at home and any consistent readings under 90 should be a serious red flag. Can't understand why anyone would wait days.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

3 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Couldn't imagine. My wife had colon surgery in late August last year, and about 5 days later, when they were getting ready to send her home the next day, ended up in v-fib which lasted about 17 seconds. However that was a long enough time that after she somehow woke up to wake me up(it was 5:30am) to call the nurse, because she knew something wasn't right although she wasn't sure what it was, she laid back down to what I thought was her falling asleep. However she was making really weird sounds fighting through some foam that she apparently had, so after a few minutes I tried to wake her up, to no avail. Then the nurse tried, then another nurse, then a whole Stat team. Nobody could figure out what the problem was. She ended up being totally unresponsive for about 2 hours...turns out, her blood oxygen fell to like 42. Luckily it doesn't seem like there was any long term damage, but lack of oxygen isn't something to play around with. Everyone should have a little pulse ox at home and any consistent readings under 90 should be a serious red flag. Can't understand why anyone would wait days.

Wow that is scary.  Hope she is all right

 PS Guess what product I am be bombarded with ads for now.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

So the logical human in me has to ask... if the mom was a nurse, and the dad a PA, WHY DID they make the decisions they did?  What would make people in the medical profession push away what most of us agree would have been the logical procedures to follow??

 

What is missing from this story, if it's not abuse?

[OriZ 3,157]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Wow that is scary.  Hope she is all right

 PS Guess what product I am be bombarded with ads for now.

lol pulseox? Yeah she's doing okay, thanks. The dummies took her to the ICU that day, after doing a CT and whatnot, and leaving bruises all over her body, and just left her there. Took me 5 minutes of talking to her and she woke up. They ended up concluding it was just from all the meds she was on...didn't even bother checking anything to do with the heart despite the fact she had a loop recorder(only for PAC's mind you). Sent her home the next morning. As soon as we get home and her loop recorder synced with the machine, she gets a call from her cardiologist telling her she needs to get back to the hospital to get an ICD. She asked them "can I at least take a shower first?" they're like no you have to go now. The moment we get to the ER they slapped a bunch of pads on her, implanted the ICD the next morning, and sent her home the day after that. The day she met her cardiologist at the hospital he said he felt like he was looking at a ghost. She has not been in vfib since.

[TBoneTX 45,292]

Arrhythmias suck.  Hopefully no shocks from the ICD.

[OriZ 3,157]

26 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Arrhythmias suck.  Hopefully no shocks from the ICD.

So far so good! I really think it had something to do with the surgery, as before(as far as we know) they were always in the upper chambers.

[TBoneTX 45,292]

Just keep the contraption programmed at correct sensitivity.  Those things can be as dangerous as they are helpful.  Hugs to Mrs. O.

[yuna628 9,676]

13 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

So the logical human in me has to ask... if the mom was a nurse, and the dad a PA, WHY DID they make the decisions they did?  What would make people in the medical profession push away what most of us agree would have been the logical procedures to follow??

 

What is missing from this story, if it's not abuse?

I'm sure there are some things missing. It clearly is abuse, a grave failing, and stupidity. You're asking why they did what they did with medical training? Because people are evil? Clearly using a brain didn't enter into things.

13 hours ago, OriZ said:

Couldn't imagine. My wife had colon surgery in late August last year, and about 5 days later, when they were getting ready to send her home the next day, ended up in v-fib which lasted about 17 seconds. However that was a long enough time that after she somehow woke up to wake me up(it was 5:30am) to call the nurse, because she knew something wasn't right although she wasn't sure what it was, she laid back down to what I thought was her falling asleep. However she was making really weird sounds fighting through some foam that she apparently had, so after a few minutes I tried to wake her up, to no avail. Then the nurse tried, then another nurse, then a whole Stat team. Nobody could figure out what the problem was. She ended up being totally unresponsive for about 2 hours...turns out, her blood oxygen fell to like 42. Luckily it doesn't seem like there was any long term damage, but lack of oxygen isn't something to play around with. Everyone should have a little pulse ox at home and any consistent readings under 90 should be a serious red flag. Can't understand why anyone would wait days.

We have one to monitor Dad constantly, but we're regularly checking everyone in case it's an early sign of COVID. Very sorry to hear about your wife. Went through that surgery with Mom's cancer and it was a long recovery time to get her back on her feet.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

27 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I'm sure there are some things missing. It clearly is abuse, a grave failing, and stupidity. You're asking why they did what they did with medical training? Because people are evil? Clearly using a brain didn't enter into things.

We have one to monitor Dad constantly, but we're regularly checking everyone in case it's an early sign of COVID. Very sorry to hear about your wife. Went through that surgery with Mom's cancer and it was a long recovery time to get her back on her feet.

The ignorance on this is mind numbing. I get a least 5 FB posts on a day, on how the fact that deaths have not skyrocketed proves it's a scam, and cases are not really up. As a prominent doctor explained last night. We really will not  know for a couple of more weeks, as death is a "lagging indicator" that can many weeks behind  infection. Along with better protocols and a big shift in age demographics.

 

 My management here is full on the it's a hoax Trump train. One manager today in our meeting rooom said' and I quote" I will make this short I dont feel well today"

[beloved_dingo 1,979]

Yesterday I received an order from a judge here regarding a request for a continuance due to an attorney on the case waiting for covid test results. The order says "Due to the China Virus testing results not being back yet, case is continued and will be reset." Very professional 🙃

Edited July 10, 2020 by beloved_dingo