Florida Teen Who Contracted Coronavirus Dies After Mother Took Her to Church Party, Then Treated Her With Hydroxychloroquine

[yuna628 9,676]

9 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I think  they would need a court order to put her on a vent against parents wishes. Maybe Steel can clarify

I would think some sort of court order and social services need to be involved, and by that time the child was dead anyway. 

 

https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/overriding-parental-decision-withhold-treatment/2003-08

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/parents-beliefs-about-medicine-child-abuse#1

 

Cases like this, which result in the death of children happen all the time.. https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/ella-foster-faith-healing-death/29977/

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/482050-a-mother-turned-to-facebook-for-natural-flu

Edited July 8, 2020 by yuna628

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

12 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Don't let Dad off the hook here. He's a physician's assistant which involves a considerable amount of formal medical education and training. He's as much to blame for what happened to his daughter.

They should BOTH be beheaded

[laylalex 7,284]

2 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

They should BOTH be beheaded

That's a very strong take. Personally I feel they should both be held accountable, but I also feel so sad for them as well. Losing a child must be devastating, and they must be aware that it was their own actions that played a part in her death. 

[yuna628 9,676]

4 minutes ago, laylalex said:

That's a very strong take. Personally I feel they should both be held accountable, but I also feel so sad for them as well. Losing a child must be devastating, and they must be aware that it was their own actions that played a part in her death. 

These days I'm cynical.. and that person in me says that they aren't actually aware and think it was all 'god's plan'. They might even get some go fund me dollars in the process.

[laylalex 7,284]

4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

These days I'm cynical.. and that person in me says that they aren't actually aware and think it was all 'god's plan'. They might even get some go fund me dollars in the process.

I hope I'm right, and you're wrong, but I fear you're probably right.  

[Steeleballz 7,550]

6 minutes ago, laylalex said:

That's a very strong take. Personally I feel they should both be held accountable, but I also feel so sad for them as well. Losing a child must be devastating, and they must be aware that it was their own actions that played a part in her death. 

 

  I agree, but I feel similarly to where a child gets a hold of a parent's firearm and kills themselves. Or when a parent leaves a child in a hot vehicle and the child dies. The parents have suffered enough, but justice is also for the victim. If any of the actions of the mother are found to be illegal, the consequences should be the same as if it was anyone else's child. There should be no special consideration because it was her own child.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

23 minutes ago, laylalex said:

That's a very strong take. Personally I feel they should both be held accountable, but I also feel so sad for them as well. Losing a child must be devastating, and they must be aware that it was their own actions that played a part in her death. 

There might have been a tincture of sarcasm YOU overlooked

[laylalex 7,284]

Just now, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

There might have been a tincture of sarcasm YOU overlooked

Or maybe I didn't but had my own bleeding heart leftist take to push so I can gaslight everyone some more.  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Just now, laylalex said:

Or maybe I didn't but had my own bleeding heart leftist take to push so I can gaslight everyone some more.  

I dont think not condoning child abuse is a leftist position. I am sure if it had been meningitis instead of corona, you would have not gotten any push back

[laylalex 7,284]

5 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I dont think not condoning child abuse is a leftist position. I am sure if it had been meningitis instead of corona, you would have not gotten any push back

Maybe you missed my own tincture of sarcasm then.  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Maybe you missed my own tincture of sarcasm then.  

Obviously it wasnt child negligence because covid 19 is a govt scam and not really dangerous, you bleeding hearts have been duped

[laylalex 7,284]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Obviously it wasnt child negligence because covid 19 is a govt scam and not really dangerous, you bleeding hearts have been duped

Almost there. You need to work in a reference to 5G towers and then it will be perfect.  

[beloved_dingo 1,979]

44 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

These days I'm cynical.. and that person in me says that they aren't actually aware and think it was all 'god's plan'. They might even get some go fund me dollars in the process.

The family does have a GoFundMe page. When I looked yesterday, it had around $14,000 in donations. Normally I'd have no issue with a family raising funds for the untimely and horrible death of a 17 year old child, but in this instance it comes off like profiting off not properly caring for their child.

 

Such a sad situation that likely could have been avoided. I agree that the parents' actions were negligent to the point of being criminal.

 

Edited July 8, 2020 by beloved_dingo

[TBoneTX 45,292]

37 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

when a parent leaves a child in a hot vehicle and the child dies

This is one situation that's completely incomprehensible to me.  How* could ANY parent FORGET that their own child (or anyone else's) is in the vehicle with them?

 

*maybe if they're unduly engrossed on their cell phone, which is still inexcusable

[yuna628 9,676]

3 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

This is one situation that's completely incomprehensible to me.  How* could ANY parent FORGET that their own child (or anyone else's) is in the vehicle with them?

 

*maybe if they're unduly engrossed on their cell phone, which is still inexcusable

I'm assuming that some overly tired, stressed out, and overworked parents could theoretically briefly forget a child in some realm of possibility. It's incomprehensible to me too. From experience though my parents left us kids unattended in cars for hours (window slightly cracked but still boiling in our 100+ days) and at home too. I'm sure if they had ever been caught they would have said 'they forgot'. I can recall one time it was so hot, I unlocked the car and sat in the lot under a tree.. maybe about 8 years old? My sister remembers being left out in a car for hours in the winter. The youngest at the time needed the bathroom badly, so they got out of the car and started wandering where they were finally found by a stranger. Mom likes to insist she only left for five minutes... not the case at all.