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Hi VJ Community,

 

You may have a need for having foreign education credentials evaluated (for example for the I-944 self-sufficiency AOS form).  I recently used a NACES-listed company (the governing body for these type of companies) called "SpanTran" to evaluate my wife's Brazilian education credentials.   A terrible experience.  I paid $330 for the evaluation a month ago and still haven't received any work product.  Typically you can not speak with anyone without at least a 60-minute wait on hold (not exaggerating) and you have to press 2 on your phone every 24 seconds (literally) to stay on hold.  When someone finally does answer the phone, they only provide general information and will NOT allow you to speak with an evaluator.  Emails take at least 3 days to be answered, and the answer is always generic.

 

There are many NACES-listed companies available -- I strongly suggest you do NOT use SpanTran.

 

--Mark (and Sandra)

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Do you know if the delays are due to staffing issues and/or institution delays due to COVID?

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Geowrian,

 

7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Do you know if the delays are due to staffing issues and/or institution delays due to COVID?

 

According to the SpanTran phone representatives (when I finally reach them), no,  this is their normal business model -- i.e., not a covid problem.  They say they "prefer" email communication only, and they are just "very busy". 

 

--Mark

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I've had really bad experience with getting educational evaluations done as well. Another company to avoid is Foundation for International Services. Horrible customer service and has ridiculous requirements for authenticating documents. I had to dispute the charges with my bank because they refused to refund me for their poor service.

 

I've heard good things about Educational Perspectives. I know folks who have used them and had no issues.

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Info about my DCF Moscow* experience here and here

26-Jul-2016: Married abroad in Russia 👩‍❤️‍👨 See guide here
21-Dec-2016: I-130 filed at Moscow USCIS field office*
29-Dec-2016: I-130 approved! Yay! 🎊 

17-Jan-2017: Case number received

21-Mar-2017: Medical Exam completed

24-Mar-2017: Interview at Embassy - approved! 🎉

29-Mar-2017: CR-1 Visa received (via mail)

02-Apr-2017: USCIS Immigrant (GC) Fee paid

28-Jun-2017: Port of Entry @ PDX 🛩️

21-Jul-2017: No SSN after three weeks; applied in person at the SSA

22-Jul-2017: GC arrived in the mail 📬

31-Jul-2017: SSN arrived via mail, hurrah!

 

*NOTE: The USCIS Field Office in Moscow is now CLOSED as of February 28th, 2019.

 

Removal of Conditions - MSC Service Center

 28-Jun-2019: Conditional GC expires

30-Mar-2019: Eligible to apply for ROC

01-Apr-2019: ROC in the mail to Phoenix AZ lockbox! 📫

03-Apr-2019: ROC packet delivered to lockbox

09-Apr-2019: USCIS cashed check

09-Apr-2019: Case number received via text - MSC 📲

12-Apr-2019: Extension letter arrives via mail

19-Apr-2019: Biometrics letter arrives via mail

30-Apr-2019: Biometrics appointment at local office

26-Jun-2019: Case ready to be scheduled for interview 

04-Sep-2019: Interview was scheduled - letter to arrive in mail

09-Sep-2019: Interview letter arrived in the mail! ✉️

17-Oct-2019: Interview scheduled @ local USCIS  

18-Oct-2019: Interview cancelled & notice ordered*

18-Oct-2019: Case was approved! 🎉

22-Oct-2019: Card was mailed to me 📨

23-Oct-2019: Card was picked by USPS 

25-Oct-2019: 10 year GC Card received in mail 📬

 

*I don't understand this status because we DID have an interview!

 

🇺🇸 N-400 Application for Naturalization (Apr 2020-Jun 2021) 🛂

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Filed during Covid-19 & moved states 1 month after filing

30-Mar-2020: N-400 early filing window opens!

01-Apr-2020: Filed N-400 online 💻 

02-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received online 📃

07-Apr-2020: NOA 1 - Receipt No. received via mail

05-May-2020: Moved to another state, filed AR-11 online

05-May-2020: Application transferred to another USCIS field office for review ➡️

15-May-2020: AR-11 request to change address completed

16-Jul-2020: Filed non-receipt inquiry due to never getting confirmation that case was transferred to new field office

15-Oct-2020: Received generic response to non-receipt inquiry, see full response here

10-Feb-2021: Contacted senator's office for help with USCIS

12-Feb-2021: Received canned response from senator's office that case is within processing time 😡

16-Feb-2021: Contacted other senator's office for help with USCIS - still no biometrics

19-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice - canned response from other senator's office 🌐

23-Feb-2021: Interview scheduled - notice to come in the mail

25-Feb-2021: Biometrics reuse notice arrives via mail

01-Mar-2021: Interview notice letter arrives via mail  ✉️ 

29-Mar-2021: Passed interview at local office! Oath Ceremony to be scheduled

13-Apr-2021: Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

04-May-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 Unable to attend due to illness

04-May-2021: Mailed request to reschedule Oath to local office

05-May-2021: "You did not attend your Oath Ceremony" - notice to come in the mail

06-May-2021: Oath Ceremony will be scheduled, date TBA

12-May-2021: Oath Ceremony re-scheduled for June 3rd, then de-scheduled same day 😡 

25-May-2021: New Oath Ceremony notice was mailed

16-Jun-2021: Oath Ceremony scheduled 🎆 - DONE!!

17-Jun-2021: Certificate of Naturalization issued

 

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I'm using SpanTran before to evaluated my spouse HS diploma for college admission, and it took them a week to get it done. I-944 just come out recently,  so be patient since the volume of these requests for evaluation can be  4-5 times than normal.

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1 hour ago, H&T said:

I'm using SpanTran before to evaluated my spouse HS diploma for college admission, and it took them a week to get it done. I-944 just come out recently,  so be patient since the volume of these requests for evaluation can be  4-5 times than normal.

H&T,

 

Yes, for a high school diploma SpanTran is probably adequate (at best), but if you try to use them for university or post-graduate credentials -- forget it.  Use someone else.

 

--Mark

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1 hour ago, millefleur said:

I've had really bad experience with getting educational evaluations done as well. Another company to avoid is Foundation for International Services. Horrible customer service and has ridiculous requirements for authenticating documents. I had to dispute the charges with my bank because they refused to refund me for their poor service.

 

I've heard good things about Educational Perspectives. I know folks who have used them and had no issues.

Millefleur,

 

Thank you for this valuable information.  I will take your advice on the companies you mentioned because we're going to have to go through the evaluation process again.  And I'll also have to try to dispute these SpanTran charges with my bank.  Joy.

 

--Mark

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I used Educational Credential Evaluators (ECE) and was pretty satisfied with their service. Took just 7 days from when they received my credentials to when the evaluation and original documents were delivered to our home. :) 


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I never had to go through this, but usually most people who do will do so for a specific purpose, employer for example and they will require you to use a specific organisation.

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22 hours ago, Mark11 said:

Hi VJ Community,

 

You may have a need for having foreign education credentials evaluated (for example for the I-944 self-sufficiency AOS form).  I recently used a NACES-listed company (the governing body for these type of companies) called "SpanTran" to evaluate my wife's Brazilian education credentials.   A terrible experience.  I paid $330 for the evaluation a month ago and still haven't received any work product.  Typically you can not speak with anyone without at least a 60-minute wait on hold (not exaggerating) and you have to press 2 on your phone every 24 seconds (literally) to stay on hold.  When someone finally does answer the phone, they only provide general information and will NOT allow you to speak with an evaluator.  Emails take at least 3 days to be answered, and the answer is always generic.

 

There are many NACES-listed companies available -- I strongly suggest you do NOT use SpanTran.

 

--Mark (and Sandra)

Send them message in their Instagram page. They answered me immidiately there. But also they responded me on email really fast. I paid for general evaluation with express services. It was done for 2 days and i paid $240 total. I am sorry that have experienced that but usually people are happy with their services. Try to connect them any possible way because they might lost your case or something. 

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All,

 

For us (Sandra and I), the key problem is that my wife needs an evaluation for medical licensing (as a Speech-Language Pathologist).  For this, SpanTran has been incredibly UN-helpful and UN-responsive.  They certainly took the $330 quickly on May 29, but now won't answer questions regarding the evaluation and won't release the evaluation.  In general, my point is that if you have any complications with an evaluation which requires you to have a conversation with the evaluator, SpanTran will not accommodate you.  And you'll be lucky if you are able to SPEAK with anyone, let alone an evaluator.  I was specifically told (after waiting on hold for 64 minutes):  "No, you may not speak with the evaluator.  That is our policy.  You are welcome to email us, and we will forward your questions to an evaluator." [but you will NOT receive a direct email response from the evaluator].

 

--Mark

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