Affidavit of Support questions (merged)

[Gaiden79 14]

Hello all, 

 

I'm the US Citizen spouse and I'm getting ready to get a sponsor for my Affidavit of Support. I'm at the NVC stage of petitioning my wife in the Philippines. 

 

I currently have 2 daughters who live with my ex-wife in the US and 1 daughter that lives with my current wife in the Philippines. That would be 3 children total. The daughter in the Philippines will be coming to the US with my wife. 

 

I just want to confirm with you guys exactly how much annual income will my sponsor need to show to meet the requirements? Thanks! 

[Ryan H 3,811]

Are the two daughters from your previous marriage minors (i.e. under 18)?  If so, they count in your household size regardless of the fact that they are not living with you; therefore, you household size is 5.  Refer to the most recent edition of the I-864P for the minimum qualifying threshold.

[Gaiden79 14]

55 minutes ago, Ryan H said:

Are the two daughters from your previous marriage minors (i.e. under 18)?  If so, they count in your household size regardless of the fact that they are not living with you; therefore, you household size is 5.  Refer to the most recent edition of the I-864P for the minimum qualifying threshold.

Yes they are under 18. Thanks, I'll check out the I-864P.

[Hank_ 9,174]

On 3/15/2020 at 8:34 PM, Gaiden79 said:

Hello all, 

 

I'm the US Citizen spouse and I'm getting ready to get a sponsor for my Affidavit of Support. I'm at the NVC stage of petitioning my wife in the Philippines. 

 

I currently have 2 daughters who live with my ex-wife in the US and 1 daughter that lives with my current wife in the Philippines. That would be 3 children total. The daughter in the Philippines will be coming to the US with my wife. 

 

I just want to confirm with you guys exactly how much annual income will my sponsor need to show to meet the requirements? Thanks! 

Must meet or exceed the 125% poverty guidelines of the I-864P for the total number of persons;   https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p

[Gaiden79 14]

Hi all, 

 

Getting ready to get a joint sponsor and I do have a sort of rich uncle that may help me but he doesn't work and most likely I will need statements of his savings or income from rental properties. 

 

On the other hand I could try to find someone who meets the regular income level needed. What would be recommended you guys think? Thanks! 

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

Current income is best. 
 

[pushbrk 12,703]

1 hour ago, Gaiden79 said:

Hi all, 

 

Getting ready to get a joint sponsor and I do have a sort of rich uncle that may help me but he doesn't work and most likely I will need statements of his savings or income from rental properties. 

 

On the other hand I could try to find someone who meets the regular income level needed. What would be recommended you guys think? Thanks! 

You're going to find that using a self employed landlord will require a lot of documentation.  Landlords commonly show little or no actual income on their tax returns, so documenting real estate equities is probably not something he's going to want to do.  If he has plenty of actual taxable income though, you can skip all the asset questions.

[Gaiden79 14]

17 hours ago, pushbrk said:

You're going to find that using a self employed landlord will require a lot of documentation.  Landlords commonly show little or no actual income on their tax returns, so documenting real estate equities is probably not something he's going to want to do.  If he has plenty of actual taxable income though, you can skip all the asset questions.

Hmm okay. So it's better to show a stream of income rather than assets. Thank you sir. 

18 hours ago, Luckycuds said:

Current income is best. 
 

Thank you! 

[pushbrk 12,703]

33 minutes ago, Gaiden79 said:

Hmm okay. So it's better to show a stream of income rather than assets. Thank you sir. 

 

Yes, it is, but remember, there's a difference between "rental revenue" and actual income.  For the self Employed, "income" comes from the line of the 1040 labelled "Total Income" and is the taxable income after taking all business expenses, and in a landlord's case, "depreciation".  This is why landlords very often show little if any taxable income, no matter how well off they may be or how lavish a lifestyle.  That leaves them with declaring and documenting (proving) the equity in each piece of real property.  Most will not want to do that.

[Gaiden79 14]

3 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Yes, it is, but remember, there's a difference between "rental revenue" and actual income.  For the self Employed, "income" comes from the line of the 1040 labelled "Total Income" and is the taxable income after taking all business expenses, and in a landlord's case, "depreciation".  This is why landlords very often show little if any taxable income, no matter how well off they may be or how lavish a lifestyle.  That leaves them with declaring and documenting (proving) the equity in each piece of real property.  Most will not want to do that.

Yeah I can see what you mean. I doubt I want to go through the trouble of getting all that from him. 

[pushbrk 12,703]

1 hour ago, Gaiden79 said:

Yeah I can see what you mean. I doubt I want to go through the trouble of getting all that from him. 

And I doubt he wants to go to all the trouble of getting it FOR you, or disclosing it TO you.

 

[Gaiden79 14]

Hello friends, 

 

I just wanted to double check on the Affidavit of Support if question "23.a" ONLY refers to Federal income tax returns and does NOT also include a State tax return? Thanks! 

[arken 4,197]

Correct.

[Gaiden79 14]

On 6/25/2020 at 7:49 PM, arken said:

Correct.

Ty! 

[Gaiden79 14]

Hi guys, I've done it before but could you please remind me of what "In care of" is for on the I-864? Do I just put NA there? Thanks!