Trump To Suspend H-1B and Other Visas Until End Of Year

[agataa 88]

3 minutes ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

Most of all, If the EO will be extended I would like the EO to list every visa that can be processed and those that cant be processed not just by categories ....but by their designations like K1,J1 etc so we can just stop being confused about these things.

That would be perfect  ban the visas they want to ban and let the other ones be processed. I’m afraid, judging by the last EO, that this won’t be so clean cut

[Sparkle Sparkle 914]

2 minutes ago, agataa said:

That would be perfect  ban the visas they want to ban and let the other ones be processed. I’m afraid, judging by the last EO, that this won’t be so clean cut

Exactly, i am tired of interpreting the wordings of any EO...just list those that have the OK and those that have to chill ....preferable according to full designations as the appear on visas!!

[Harvey0 0]

Will this include E-2 visas too?

[sl1pstream 551]

1 hour ago, Harvey0 said:

Will this include E-2 visas too?

No one knows what will be included. Right now all we can really discuss is the reasoning behind the EO. Once it actually gets published, we'll know what's included and what isn't.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

4 hours ago, vincentlina said:

Thank you for your common-sense and "fact" based analysis/opinion. When I was completing my Masters in technology from one of the top universities in Massachusetts, I could literally count the number of Americans who were part of my class. Many of my classmates were International students (India, China, Middle East, Europe, etc.) The percentage of American (particularly white) was equal or less in most of my classes (during my entire academic period in school). The point being, statistically, American employers are forced to hire many of these students (via H1B). So when you look at the raw facts mathematically -- American workers are not being displaced. Every single American (white or otherwise) who works in technology at least, can find one if they so choose. If you are an American complaining about "competing" with foreign skilled workers -- you are either too lazy to compete or simply doing so out of other fears (usually cultural).

 

My second point relative to your comment is that when a LPR sponsor their spouse -- it takes several months for that individual (spouse) to be ready to be assimilated into the American workforce. They have have to wait several months (it took me appx. 9 months) to get a green card. And after being rejected for 3 months to get a job (with a Masters and 20yrs in IT) as a green card resident, I started my own IT consultancy. News flash: many corporations actually "prefer" to hire Americans -- not LPRs. Therefore during this "waiting" period to be a recognize an American resident (with employment benefits), immigrant spouses cannot take a job (so there is very little possibility of them taking away jobs opportunities from USC. Besides, let's say many immigrant spouses gets their authorization to work (green card/ssn) within 3 months, who is going to hire them? Most employers who have been forced to shut down, will try and rehire their existing laid off employees (not look for new workers). Secondly, those that received loans from the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) are mandated to "re-hire" their existing furloughed employees. Again, very little opportunity for freshly minted green card holders to come in and swoop away these jobs. And most high skilled American and H1B workers did not loose their jobs anyways. So this EO does nothing for this group.

 

This whole EO is a farce and like everything else this administration has done, it is never based on facts or scientific validity or for the betterment of America  as a whole -- it is all done through the prism of political gain solely for one man (not even his followers benefit). This EO does nothing to help Americans get back on their feet -- what he needs is an EO on stopping the spread of the virus. That is the only way jobs are going to come back again at sustainable levels.

The problem is the big companies like Disney basically flooding the applications with way more people than they need, so they can hire workers on the cheap and genuine applications have a smaller chance of being selected. 

 

4 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

I think it is worth noting here that this is often not a reflection of American student interest or academic ability.  When equally qualified students are considered, foreign students net the universities significantly more money.

The poster above was talking about graduate school which is a completely different matter. 

[abrahambueno 14]

When does the EO expire for a K1 visa holder to be able to enter in the US? (Of course, this is just with the assumption that it doesn't get extended which I know this is a possibility). 

[Henry357 70]

16 hours ago, WantABetterLife said:

This is a common misconception about H1B spread by anti immigrant groups. I’m surprised to find this rhetoric here in a forum that helps immigrants. There are two types of H1Bs, highly skilled with masters or PHD from an American university. Go to any top STEM school, you will find majority of students to be international. These students later convert from OPT to H1B.
 

These jobs typically require graduate level degree, which is hard to find among Americans. The other kind of H1B is from consulting companies, typically from outsourcing companies bringing their employees on board. If you abolish H1B, these jobs will simply be outsourced. Companies will loose talent on important projects. The H1B median wage is $80k. So forget taxes. Most of these jobs will be simply moved to Canada or India. The 3 million unemployed are mostly from restaurants and other low wage workers completely unrelated to H1B. All this potential EO does is to get some brownie points among his xenophobic anti immigrant base who doesn’t want high skilled brown immigrants in this country.
 

I myself have a masters degree from a top US university and working on H1B and earn a salary of $110k plus bonuses. I didn’t steal anyone’s job. In fact the very first requirement of getting a H1B is to prove to USCIS that you can’t find any American to fill the job. They have gotten pretty strict about it recently. I was hired solely because my knowledge in my field. All my friends in H1B have a similar story.

 

The labor study is completely rigged as demonstrated by high approval rate.  I once applied for a job that I knew was H1B because the postings application instructions asked you to send the resume to a lawyer instead of applying on the companies website.  Every time I applied they would just repost the job with a new requirement, they finally must have just posted elsewhere because the application was approved and low and behold it was much lower  salary then what I would have asked for. 
 

Another time when I was a contractor they literally converted a H1B to a permanent role when we were literally both doing the exact same job. They didn’t post it on company website and his hiring process was all managed in secret.  I was told privately it was about budget.   The company ended up hiring me full time 2 years later and paid me much more, but they made me apply like an outsider to justify the salary.  It actually all worked out well for me, but the system is messed up. 
 

 

[vkrishn 97]

5 hours ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

Exactly, i am tired of interpreting the wordings of any EO...just list those that have the OK and those that have to chill ....preferable according to full designations as the appear on visas!!

Attorney's will not have much to do if it was all straight forward.  

[Sparkle Sparkle 914]

2 hours ago, abrahambueno said:

When does the EO expire for a K1 visa holder to be able to enter in the US? (Of course, this is just with the assumption that it doesn't get extended which I know this is a possibility). 

today June 22

 

5 minutes ago, vkrishn said:

Attorney's will not have much to do if it was all straight forward.  

Attorneys aside we need to understand the EO as ABC...we have been struggling with misinformation for too long 

[ashley_ann 179]

5 hours ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

Most of all, If the EO will be extended I would like the EO to list every visa that can be processed and those that cant be processed not just by categories ....but by their designations like K1,J1 etc so we can just stop being confused about these things.

This is the thing I'm hoping for just for the "grey" area that K1 and J1 etc are in to be addressed. But only time can tell now. Guess we will be finding out soon enough.

[Quarknase 1,072]

24 minutes ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

today June 22

I think the poster was referring to the covid travel ban (Schengen, UK, China etc) since K1's are excluded under the EO that expires today.

[Cody&Razely 134]

1 hour ago, Sparkle Sparkle said:

today June 22

 

Attorneys aside we need to understand the EO as ABC...we have been struggling with misinformation for too long 

lol, you think it's bad here. Try discerning any kind of coherent information from the Phillippines; now that's an effort in futility to the fullest 😂😂😂

[Fatima7045 31]

Why am I not hearing anything about family based immigration. I'm in the fb2 category but no news about what is likely to happen. 

[WantABetterLife 20]

1 hour ago, Henry357 said:

Another time when I was a contractor they literally converted a H1B to a permanent role when we were literally both doing the exact same job

Maybe just maybe, he was good at his job and hence they gave him a permanent role? But hey, it is not possible. How come an immigrant guy from a poor country be better than me, right? He has to be a cheap and good for nothing. US companies are dumb to hire someone who delivers ####### for cheap wages and take losses on their products. 

 

your comment about high approval rate is not correct. Look at the latest statistics, the rejection rate have gone up significantly for H1Bs. The rate of RFEs have gone high too. USCIS denying applications for ridiculous reasons and some of them later get sued by the company lawyers. 
 

While some have lower wages, there is a significant portion of H1Bs earning higher than natives.  
 

Sources with salary statistics

1.https://www.glassdoor.com/research/h1b-workers/

2. https://insights.dice.com/2019/08/06/average-h-1b-salary-compare/?amp

Sources on USCIS denials and lawsuits

1.https://immigrationimpact.com/2020/04/17/uscis-h1b-class-action-lawsuit/

2.https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/inability-to-work-doesnt-justify-court-order-on-h-1b-denial

 

[sl1pstream 551]

1 hour ago, Quarknase said:

I think the poster was referring to the covid travel ban (Schengen, UK, China etc) since K1's are excluded under the EO that expires today.

They're not specifically called out as excluded so every embassy is interpreting the EO differently.