What kind of health insurance did you use for your fiancé?

[Trutta 103]

On 9/3/2020 at 6:28 AM, Jorgedig said:

Maybe so, but it is what it is.

What a great outlook. I am sure glad the colonial militia at Lexington and the Bielski partisans didn't share it.

[SalishSea 17,827]

13 minutes ago, Trutta said:

What a great outlook. I am sure glad the colonial militia at Lexington and the Bielski partisans didn't share it.

Huh?  LOL.  It is not an 'outlook.'  I am an oncology nurse administering chemotherapy and immunotherapy to cancer patients for ten hours a day.  These drugs are expensive.  Some of them are >$50k per treatment. Radiation therapy is hundreds of thousands of dollars.  I've seen many bankruptcies due to a cancer diagnosis for uninsured/underinsured, and even some with decent insurance.

 

Walk in the shoes of someone like that, and then comment. 

[Lemonslice 4,838]

26 minutes ago, Trutta said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_universal_health_care

 

Universal health care is not free, it means that all have ACCESS to health care.  You might not pay when you go to the hospital, however, you do pay in other ways.  I much rather have universal healthcare than a layer of private insurance like in the USA though. 

[Boiler 45,486]

9 hours ago, Lemonslice said:

Universal health care is not free, it means that all have ACCESS to health care.  You might not pay when you go to the hospital, however, you do pay in other ways.  I much rather have universal healthcare than a layer of private insurance like in the USA though. 

Often you do pay, depends what it is, UK for example applies generally to residents and there are charges, maybe not big and some areas like Dentists more theoretical. I have some knowledge of Dutch and German systems and they are very different to US and UK.

[Trutta 103]

23 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Huh?  LOL.  It is not an 'outlook.'  I am an oncology nurse administering chemotherapy and immunotherapy to cancer patients for ten hours a day.  These drugs are expensive.  Some of them are >$50k per treatment. Radiation therapy is hundreds of thousands of dollars.  I've seen many bankruptcies due to a cancer diagnosis for uninsured/underinsured, and even some with decent insurance.

 

Walk in the shoes of someone like that, and then comment. 

Accepting something "is just the way it is" is very certainly an outlook.

 

I have a different outlook.

 

I think that people who charge $50000 for medical care to keep a personal alive should be tried in front of a popular tribunal for crimes against humanity.

 

I'd rather drop dead than hand my hard earned money over to such blood sucking ghouls.

 

 

[geowrian 22,337]

22 minutes ago, Trutta said:

I'd rather drop dead than hand my hard earned money over to such blood sucking ghouls.

Well, that is the alternative many times.

Most of us would prefer to live. That's what I chose for myself and my family's sake, and would never second guess that.

[SalishSea 17,827]

42 minutes ago, Trutta said:

Accepting something "is just the way it is" is very certainly an outlook.

 

I have a different outlook.

 

I think that people who charge $50000 for medical care to keep a personal alive should be tried in front of a popular tribunal for crimes against humanity.

 

I'd rather drop dead than hand my hard earned money over to such blood sucking ghouls.

 

 

Well, maybe it is a maturity thing, but I cannot always change the things I don't like.  To choose to "drop dead" also is not an option.

 

I can however choose to contribute by providing excellent and safe care to the people on the other side of it.  

[Trutta 103]

On 9/11/2020 at 12:27 PM, Jorgedig said:

Well, maybe it is a maturity thing, but I cannot always change the things I don't like.  To choose to "drop dead" also is not an option.

 

I can however choose to contribute by providing excellent and safe care to the people on the other side of it.  

Do you think Benjamin Franklin was immature?

[Trutta 103]

On 9/11/2020 at 12:05 PM, geowrian said:

Well, that is the alternative many times.

Most of us would prefer to live. That's what I chose for myself and my family's sake, and would never second guess that.

Most people these days are driven by fear and lacking in principle. That's evident all around us.

 

Good luck living forever.

[geowrian 22,337]

8 hours ago, Trutta said:

Most people these days are driven by fear and lacking in principle. That's evident all around us.

 

Good luck living forever.

My obligation to my family >> any obligation to my wallet.

If I have to pay the big-bad pharmaceuticals and fat-cat insurance giants to stay alive, so be it.

Edited September 22, 2020 by geowrian