Petition to include K1 filers as exemption from travel bans

[JamesMercy 11]

My fellow spousal Visa beneficiaries and petitioners, please let's come together and enforce a petition too. The pain of separation and the herculean strain and length of the visa processing is overwhelming. They should consider our plights and shorten these processes for a limited time. The onus of proving a a bona fide marriage still lies with the beneficiary/petitioner. Somebody help us create a link please.

[JBF 116]

1 minute ago, retheem said:

😂😂😂what did i just read? Since when did fiances have equal rights with spouses? Anyone who reads the definition of a nuclear family- it consists of father (husband), mother(wife) and children- did you see fiance being a family member? . Even in matters non-immigration, a fiance is just that. A prospective. As in the government does not formally recognize you. Anywho. Good luck in the journey. Keep us informed.

In times of difficulty nobody wants to be objective. We totally understand.

 

I honestly don’t request any equal right, but as other family members, would want to be exempt from the travel ban. As far as I’m concerned that’s the goal of the petition they have created, and that’s enough. 

[JBF 116]

11 minutes ago, retheem said:

😂😂😂what did i just read? Since when did fiances have equal rights with spouses? Anyone who reads the definition of a nuclear family- it consists of father (husband), mother(wife) and children- did you see fiance being a family member? . Even in matters non-immigration, a fiance is just that. A prospective. As in the government does not even formally recognize you. Anywho. Good luck in the journey. Keep us informed.

In times of difficulty nobody wants to be objective. We totally understand.

 

And by the way, I see how the government doesn’t recognize K1s. A fiancé visa is not a recognition, in your opinion. And then what is it? 
 

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

4 hours ago, MelissaHussain said:

You are confused. The petition is regarding the travel ban as the April eo doesn't affect k1 visas in any way.

I have read the whole EO and it allows for the exemtions of spouses,  children of spouses,  those with an approved visa,  medical visas,  

and leaves out the K1 

 

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

This is just an opinion ( mine) but i would think the best way to stop the way things are going down (so hard to say what i want and not offend anyone) is to vote and encourage the new citizens to register and use their new rite to vote to voice what they believe in

as republican senators wrote about the original 9984 expressing their own disapproval and their plea was ignored .  

 

So VOTE please and let your present Senator and House Rep know of your agreement or disagreement with the EO 

[laylalex 7,284]

29 minutes ago, retheem said:

Anyone who reads the definition of a nuclear family- it consists of father (husband), mother(wife) and children-

 

A nuclear family doesn't need to have spouses of opposite sexes.   

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

30 minutes ago, JamesMercy said:

My fellow spousal Visa beneficiaries and petitioners, please let's come together and enforce a petition too. The pain of separation and the herculean strain and length of the visa processing is overwhelming. They should consider our plights and shorten these processes for a limited time. The onus of proving a a bona fide marriage still lies with the beneficiary/petitioner. Somebody help us create a link please.

I, myself ,  have been through the system (K1 denied ) and the CR1 (denied ) and finally IR1 approved so i am preparing my own letter and info about legal and illegal immigration and some of the things which are big issues (in only my opinion) and will send it when complete to my Senator and House Rep and vote in the November elections for the best person that will work to really change things 

2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

A nuclear family doesn't need to have spouses of opposite sexes.   

Right and they are supported in a spouse visa

[MrHanky 1,377]

5 hours ago, JBF said:

They’re classified that way on the DS, then they have to change it. 

They don't have to change anything as I'm sure you'll find

 

 

[Babu Frik 1,162]

4 hours ago, MelissaHussain said:

Maybe read the actual petition before disputing? Fiances ARE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED as immediate family by an approved petition as stated by the DS160 form which requires that the American fiance is listed as immediate family. 

Great! then you don't even need a petition, they'll just do what you say.

[JBF 116]

5 minutes ago, MrHanky said:

They don't have to change anything as I'm sure you'll find

 

 

Absolutely, but as I was told it was not correct, then I suppose the DS uses incorrect terms and classifications in their opinion, obviously. 

[MrHanky 1,377]

4 minutes ago, JBF said:

Absolutely, but as I was told it was not correct, then I suppose the DS uses incorrect terms and classifications in their opinion, obviously. 

I'm not saying it's right, but it's how an old out of date system works.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

The DS-160 is not the source for what the US government recognizes as immediate relatives.  The law is the source: 

 

http://www.americanlaw.com/famil.html

 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Lucky Cat

[8bithearts 104]

1 hour ago, geowrian said:

Same. Heck, I did the K-1 path.

Edit: And as a side note, I'm getting really tired of all the "they don't know/remember..." and general us/them type of comments. Nobody forgets the separation.. It's not a competition for biggest loser. Having a different view or opinion is not due to inconsideration, forgetfulness, etc.

I have been guilty of this and on reflection it was an unfair comment, I appreciate that guys with a hell of a lot of experience are here to answer questions on the forum and you are absolutely right in saying its not a competition for biggest loser, please accept my apologies for my past comments of this nature.

(only this bit was meant for you I carried on replying below to the general topic of this thread.. I just saw you and thought I should apologise)

 

Lets just assume that everyone is here because they want to help, sometimes it may not be the answer you want but better to have a correct unpalatable answer than an incorrect positive one.

 

Its also not IR1s vs K1s..  We are all here for the same reason, just using different methods to get there.  Yes I also agree the way K1s have been treated by the EO is unfair but at the same time its also right that they don't have the same legal rights as married couples, that's the same everywhere because lets face it if fiancés want to leave each other they can just walk out the door, they have yet to enter into any legal and binding agreement like marriage, I am not saying your relationships are not as valid as married people, just in the eyes of the law everywhere in the world this is the case.

 

Anyway I just hope this is resolved for everyone asap, we just need to all hang on in there and not tear each other apart

[JBF 116]

4 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

I guess the actual law is incorrect since the petition has interpreted the DS-160 as being the source of what the US government recognizes as immediate relatives....🤣

 

http://www.americanlaw.com/famil.html

 

Honestly, even though it may not have been articulated in the correct way, in my opinion the intent was not to say that they are always recognized as immediate family, but are considered that way in, for example, the DS, and therefore could be excluded from the ban. 

[JBF 116]

1 minute ago, 8bithearts said:

I have been guilty of this and on reflection it was an unfair comment, I appreciate that guys with a hell of a lot of experience are here to answer questions on the forum and you are absolutely right in saying its not a competition for biggest loser, please accept my apologies for my past comments of this nature.

(only this bit was meant for you I carried on replying below to the general topic of this thread.. I just saw you and thought I should apologise)

 

Lets just assume that everyone is here because they want to help, sometimes it may not be the answer you want but better to have a correct unpalatable answer than an incorrect positive one.

 

Its also not IR1s vs K1s..  We are all here for the same reason, just using different methods to get there.  Yes I also agree the way K1s have been treated by the EO is unfair but at the same time its also right that they don't have the same legal rights as married couples, that's the same everywhere because lets face it if fiancés want to leave each other they can just walk out the door, they have yet to enter into any legal and binding agreement like marriage, I am not saying your relationships are not as valid as married people, just in the eyes of the law everywhere in the world this is the case.

 

Anyway I just hope this is resolved for everyone asap, we just need to all hang on in there and not tear each other apart

They have created a petition and it can be redone and modified, obviously. The ultimate goal is always the same one, to be able to be exempt from the bans, as other family members are.