People!!! No one with any certainty can tell you when the embassies will OPEN.

[geowrian 22,337]

27 minutes ago, 8bithearts said:

Yes that's information I agree, but its basically the embassy saying we have no guidance on when we are reopening, I am referring to information or an indication as to when this will be, I think the rest of my post made that clear.

The recurring question is when will they reopen? The complaint is there is no information out there and that's why people keep asking. The information available from them says they do not have a date yet.

The answer to the question is readily available and easy to find on your own. It appears people are just not satisfied with it. That's a different issue entirely.

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I know this doesn't really relate to you as it seems you finished the process a while ago.

Not really sure why this matters (nor is my wife finished with the process...the process goes on and on until at least naturalization)...?

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[8bithearts 104]

Thing is what's wrong with people asking or complaining about this?  its a visa forum, its a big issue and people are totally in the dark that have been DQed for months.  Sure they might not get an answer, they may be (like myself) just trying to let off steam and complaining about the fact you can go and see the elephants and buy a tshirt made in a sweat shop but no interview.

I don't really see what it matters if there is more than one topic on it, seems to me a lot of the people complaining about it are well past the embassy stage so sure it may be annoying to them to see yet another post asking, but at least console yourself you are with your partner. The people starting these topics are not.... trust me on this it is infinitely more annoying going another day not even knowing if you will be able to see your wife this year, or when.  I would rather read a forum and have to answer 100 identical posts than wait another week to find out my interview date...

 

 

 

Hopefully the embassies will provide everyone with an update soon for everyone's sake!

Edited June 16, 2020 by 8bithearts

[geowrian 22,337]

The issue is the question has already been answered many times and it is readily available. Put in the 60 seconds of effort to find the answer yourself via Google. To be clear, that's not just some "don't burden me" type of statement...I truly believe those people would be better off putting in the effort themselves. Ask questions when needed, but always put in the effort to seek answers yourself first, including via official sources.

 

"What's wrong" is this is how rumors get started and incorrect expectations are set. Somebody "hears" something and passes it along, instead of quickly verifying the information from an official source.

The potential problem with multiple topics on the issue is they may not all be adequately reviewed by peers, and some may end up propagating rumors in them as a result.

VJ is pretty good with this, but there are some (many) sites out there where rumors make up more of the content than actual the actual facts. Getting correct info out there becomes a major challenge once that happens.

 

No issue letting off steam...although that does not entail asking a question either (or at least not seriously asking the question). Just let off the steam.

I can't speak for others, but I am certain my opinion on this subject would not change no matter where my wife or I was in the process. Because that does not matter....whether I was waiting for a K-1 or naturalized doesn't make the answer to the question of when the embassies will reopen change.

Because I have been through the this particular step in the process before, I would argue that makes it easier to look at it more objectively than somebody going through it now. I - like most people posting here - do know what it's like to be waiting for a loved one. Some of us longer than others...I know some people (ITT even, IIRC) have waited much, much longer than others.

 

There was never an option of having to answer posts vs getting to proceed in one's own case. They are completely separate matters.

[8bithearts 104]

56 minutes ago, geowrian said:

The issue is the question has already been answered many times and it is readily available. Put in the 60 seconds of effort to find the answer yourself via Google. To be clear, that's not just some "don't burden me" type of statement...I truly believe those people would be better off putting in the effort themselves. Ask questions when needed, but always put in the effort to seek answers yourself first, including via official sources.

 

I agree and I do this myself, I am checking all available sources, but this is the internet and people see visa journey at their first stop to find this information, its a problem as old as the internet.  Maybe a regulary updated sticky post is the answer, although I would imagine you will still see multiple posts on the same subject, choose any forum online and you will have a similar problem.

 

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"What's wrong" is this is how rumors get started and incorrect expectations are set. Somebody "hears" something and passes it along, instead of quickly verifying the information from an official source.

The potential problem with multiple topics on the issue is they may not all be adequately reviewed by peers, and some may end up propagating rumors in them as a result.

VJ is pretty good with this, but there are some (many) sites out there where rumors make up more of the content than actual the actual facts. Getting correct info out there becomes a major challenge once that happens.

Well I can only speak for myself and I get my information from as many sources as possible (VJ included) but until I see something official it will always be unconfirmed.

 

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No issue letting off steam...although that does not entail asking a question either (or at least not seriously asking the question). Just let off the steam.

Maybe we could have a sub forum where people can just rant

 

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I can't speak for others, but I am certain my opinion on this subject would not change no matter where my wife or I was in the process. Because that does not matter....whether I was waiting for a K-1 or naturalized doesn't make the answer to the question of when the embassies will reopen change.

 

You have to see though that being told to be patient or wait, while I am sure you are giving the same answer you always would have irks a bit, ill be honest I cant help it.   Its like your in a café waiting for your food, you are very very hungry and you have no idea how long its going to be and the guy on the table next to you with an empty plate tells you "No idea how long the food will be just be patient", now that guy may have been as hungry as you and waited as long as you for your food but they are now there with a full belly and rightly or wrongly a lot of people would be irked.  All Im saying and I'm not saying it to you particularly is some of the longer standing members who have already gone though the process could maybe approach their answers a little more diplomatically, tensions are high as such. 

 

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Because I have been through the this particular step in the process before, I would argue that makes it easier to look at it more objectively than somebody going through it now. I - like most people posting here - do know what it's like to be waiting for a loved one. Some of us longer than others...I know some people (ITT even, IIRC) have waited much, much longer than others.

 

There was never an option of having to answer posts vs getting to proceed in one's own case. They are completely separate matters.

I get that and its honestly not an attack on you or anyone, its good this is a forum with so much experience but sometimes I read and wince at the way some replies come across.

 

Maybe there should be a few pinned topics of questions that are repeatedly asked, it wont stop all the topics being started but may cut them down.  Anyway thanks for the response.

 

 

Edited June 16, 2020 by 8bithearts

[Greenbaum 12,259]

Again, there are sources and I gave two. There is a forum section for RANTS. I'm going to be direct THERE IS NO PUBLISED EMBASSY OPENING PLAN FROM ANY OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY.  That's why I started this thread to tell you there isn't any updated information. I sometimes wonder why people do not understand the phrase NO, NADA, ZIP, NOTHING!! Oy Vey!

[8bithearts 104]

19 hours ago, Greenbaum said:

Again, there are sources and I gave two. There is a forum section for RANTS. I'm going to be direct THERE IS NO PUBLISED EMBASSY OPENING PLAN FROM ANY OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY.  That's why I started this thread to tell you there isn't any updated information. I sometimes wonder why people do not understand the phrase NO, NADA, ZIP, NOTHING!! Oy Vey!

This is all well and good but why is it that big a deal for all the caps etc??  So there may be multiple topics about the same subject but  in the scheme of things so what??  There is huge uncertainty around and peoples lives are on hold, now THAT is an issue, multiple topics on a forum you don't even have to read isn't.  Just give people a break, I wish my big visa problem was duplicate posts!

[Unlockable 7,314]

18 minutes ago, 8bithearts said:

This is all well and good but why is it that big a deal for all the caps etc??  So there may be multiple topics about the same subject but  in the scheme of things so what??  There is huge uncertainty around and peoples lives are on hold, now THAT is an issue, multiple topics on a forum you don't even have to read isn't.  Just give people a break, I wish my big visa problem was duplicate posts!

Moderator here.

 

So to give you an idea of the reasoning behind posting on this site, we do not allow for people to spam the board with asking the same question. It causes confusion and clutter. That is why we have guides, FAQ, pinned and mega threads, and specific sections. For example, this board was bombarded with people asking the same questions the week of the Executive Order. It was so much that questions were being properly answered in one part of this websiite but only a handful of people saw it because they were in another thread. That is why there is a megathread was created specifically for that order. So to adhere to the rules and policies of the forum, we ask that people do not ask the same questions over and over and if the question has been asked and answered already, the valued members of this site leads them in that direction. So duplicate posts is not allowed via the TOS you agreed to when you joined the site.

 

Hope this helps.

 

VJ Modertation.

Edited June 17, 2020 by Unlockable

[8bithearts 104]

9 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

Moderator here.

 

So to give you an idea of the reasoning behind posting on this site, we do not allow for people to spam the board with asking the same question. It causes confusion and clutter. That is why we have guides, FAQ, pinned and mega threads, and specific sections. For example, this board was bombarded with people asking the same questions the week of the Executive Order. It was so much that questions were being answered in one part of this websiite but only a handful of people saw it because they were in another thread. That is why there is a megathread was created. So to adhere to the rules and policies of the forum, we ask that people do not ask the same questions over and over and if the question has been asked and answered already, the valued members of this site leads them in that direction. So duplicate posts is not allowed via the TOS you agreed to when you joined the site.

 

Hope this helps.

 

VJ Modertation.

That may be so but is there a need for members to "BE POSTING LIKE THIS!!!! " a bit more empathy would go a long way.

 

EDIT:   I understand the reasoning, I do.  You want people to get the correct information and not have multiple topics, but there is a way of doing things and as I said members could do it a little more diplomatically and empathetically, especially the longer standing members who aren't in the same situation they get to see their partner every day and maybe have forgotten how it feels, support is what's needed in this time for all.

Edited June 17, 2020 by 8bithearts

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[KD20 8]

On 6/17/2020 at 9:28 AM, 8bithearts said:

That may be so but is there a need for members to "BE POSTING LIKE THIS!!!! " a bit more empathy would go a long way.

 

EDIT:   I understand the reasoning, I do.  You want people to get the correct information and not have multiple topics, but there is a way of doing things and as I said members could do it a little more diplomatically and empathetically, especially the longer standing members who aren't in the same situation they get to see their partner every day and maybe have forgotten how it feels, support is what's needed in this time for all.

I couldn't agree with you more!!! I came to these forums maybe about 2 months ago and asked a question and feel I was treated rudely by a longstanding member here.  The worst part is everyone defended him because of who he is - it doesn't matter that he's being rude, curt or snarky, they just praise him for how much he answers.  I absolutely appreciate that these posters take time out of their own lives to answer questions, but being snarky to people who are worried, frustrated, upset, concerned whatever is uncalled for at any time. I would actually rather not get any answer than get one where someone is rude.  I actually logged off and haven't been back to these forums since because I don't want any part of a community that treats people this way.  I checked back on them today only to see if there was any news about consulates opening up, and saw your post and logged back in just so I could comment and like your post!!!

 

I think the moderators here should be looking at the "tone" that some of the posters are using and remind them that there are real people on the other side of the screen who are just desperately awaiting any information at all.  I think perhaps some of them have forgotten what it was like to be on the waiting end of things (and then throw in a side of craziness and pandemic in there for good measure).  They can say they remember, but I think it may be a little bit like childbirth - you forget how bad it truly was after you've gone through it.

 

If it agitates you so much to see those posts, scroll on by, especially if it means you are going to be snarky and curt with people.  You don't have to answer every single post 🤷‍♀️

[SarahFlare 0]

On 6/16/2020 at 1:28 PM, 8bithearts said:

The UK government have and are continuing  to provide guidance on when things will reopen (or things already have), that's the information I am hoping the embassies will provide to us soon.

This is the same issue that we're running into with the embassy. We're trying to contact them to request an extension, because our NOA2 will expire in July, but we're having a really difficult time contacting anyone in the UK. And the USCIS agent I spoke to said that it has to be my partner who requests the extension from the UK embassy. 

[Ibrahim Suliman 9]

I just simply don't understand your problem with these people.. just make a new thread that is dedicated for anyone who has any information / guesses about this and the problem is solved.. pointing out the most obvious is just so annoying too.. like we are just asking for any information / guesses from people .

 

"nO OnE KnOwS WhEn ThE eMbAsSiEs oPeN" (removed) .. thaaaaaanks thanks alot.

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A word about this site. VJ is the largest DIY immigration site for US immigration. The moderator team is small and heavily relies on the reporting system by other members. To speak for myself I, I help with moderating this forum while taking care of a household during this pandemic as well was working a fulll time job. There are days where I don't even have the capacity to check what is going on on this site. We do not sit in front of our computers 24/7 and read every message that gets posted. So there may be some content that is missed. We also have repeatedly made attempts to keep the interaction of this forum positive. We have the site's TOS as well as pinned threads telling people to post constructively. But that does not mean that everyone will obey those rules. We know that there will be times when inappropriate things will be posted and we hope that the member's of this site help us keep a postive environment. If there is content on here that is a violation of the site's TOS or is offensive, please use the report button.

 

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[goldhex 21]

1 hour ago, SarahFlare said:

This is the same issue that we're running into with the embassy. We're trying to contact them to request an extension, because our NOA2 will expire in July, but we're having a really difficult time contacting anyone in the UK. And the USCIS agent I spoke to said that it has to be my partner who requests the extension from the UK embassy. 

This is off topic but you don't need to 'extend' your NOA2 (assuming you're K1 that is). You simply need to bring a petition affirmation letter to your interview - https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/fiancee-2/required-documents/, see 'Petition Affirmation Letter'.

Edited June 19, 2020 by goldhex

[Greenbaum 12,259]

2 hours ago, Ibrahim Suliman said:

I just simply don't understand your problem with these people.. just make a new thread that is dedicated for anyone who has any information / guesses about this and the problem is solved.. pointing out the most obvious is just so annoying too.. like we are just asking for any information / guesses from people .

 

"nO OnE KnOwS WhEn ThE eMbAsSiEs oPeN" (removed) .. thaaaaaanks thanks alot.

I feel your missing the point. There is no information.  When the information does come it will be through DOS and the individual embassies.  So we recommend that you stay fixated on your embassies website.  This thread was created because each and everyday someone is asking the same question about embassies opening. Sometimes they're asked more than once. After awhile it becomes void of an answer. 

 

I've been here a number of years and I have seen where alot of these questions being asked and answered over and over. No one takes the time to research for their answer before posting it. There is an under used tool here on VJ. It's the search function that you find in the upper right corner.  Many do not get out of their comfort zone to see the many tool offerings here on VJ. Try this one. Select your flag in your profile and see where it takes you.

 

I help out with the answeres to those repeated questions with two tools. One is onenote and the other is a expandable text completion tool. I enter a code I've assigned to my text and the program adds my text that I've previously saved. Some of my answere are filled with links and longer answers than one or two sentences. Without those tools I  wouldn't be here as I  would be frustrated with answering the same questions over and over.

 

Try and walk in the shoes of the volunteers. They are giving back to the community what some pay a lawyer for.

 

My rant is over. Back to helping people.