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I think most of us saw this coming, -- the White House is preparing new immigration limits on additional immigration categories (beyond the current immigrant ones (IR5, F2A, etc.) that were banned by EO on April 22.


CNN is reporting that the White House is planning to add add more visa categories to the existing EO to be banned ("including L-1 visas for incomparably transfers, H-1Bs for workers in a specialty occupation, H-2Bs for temporary non-agricultural workers and J-1 visas for exchange visitors") and extend it further after it expires this week.

 

So those of us who are currently stuck in this EO limbo, I'm afraid we have at minimum, another 5 more months of wait (possibly indefinitely if the mad hatter gets another term).

 

Reference: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/politics/immigration-limits-coronavirus/index.html

 

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Good news. With unemployment 13-15%, the focus needs to be Americans getting back to work, not bringing in foreigners to work in place of such a massive unemployed domestic workforce. Thankfully "mad hatter" is doing what he promised.. America First. I'm hoping he continues it another 4 years.

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3 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Good news. With unemployment 13-15%, the focus needs to be Americans getting back to work, not bringing in foreigners to work in place of such a massive unemployed domestic workforce. Thankfully "mad hatter" is doing what he promised.. America First. I'm hoping he continues it another 4 years.

Actually, the unemployment rate is not 13-15% it is much more than that. You can find many, many articles around the internet that speaks to why this number not being accurate, here's one reference: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/05/heres-why-the-real-unemployment-rate-may-be-higher-than-reported.html

 

As the articles states: "The agency admitted the real unemployment rate likely exceeds 16%" -- and that is because BLS has themselves admitted that they made reporting errors.

 

Might I remind you that because of this administration's utter incompetence, is itself why the unemployment rate is in tatters, the economy will take many, many years to recover -- and the country is in midst of mass protests and chaos -- these events are all the results of this administration's "America First" promised -- efficient incompetence. If this is your kinda thing, good for you, but it will end come November.

 

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6 hours ago, vincentlina said:

Actually, the unemployment rate is not 13-15% it is much more than that. You can find many, many articles around the internet that speaks to why this number not being accurate, here's one reference: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/05/heres-why-the-real-unemployment-rate-may-be-higher-than-reported.html

 

As the articles states: "The agency admitted the real unemployment rate likely exceeds 16%" -- and that is because BLS has themselves admitted that they made reporting errors.

 

Might I remind you that because of this administration's utter incompetence, is itself why the unemployment rate is in tatters, the economy will take many, many years to recover -- and the country is in midst of mass protests and chaos -- these events are all the results of this administration's "America First" promised -- efficient incompetence. If this is your kinda thing, good for you, but it will end come November.

 

"May"

 

The "administration" didn't cause these high unemployment numbers, state and local shutdowns did. We know exactly how low unemployment was thanks to the terrible orange man before those shutdown orders. Conveniently, you evade the premise of your own topic and miss the point of hiring Americans back, promoting American business, when it's suffering, rather than prioritizing foreigners. Easy to see through this flailing irrationality opposing these logical measures -- Trump 2020. 

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VJ Moderation

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Well, as someone who is engaged to be married to one of these supposed foreign job-stealers, yeah, I'm worried. The financial organization he works for is worried, because they rely on the expertise of highly trained, highly educated workers who already work for them to perform specific roles here from time to time. He was relocated here because he is someone who is particularly good at what he does in a very, very narrow sliver of the financial world. He is a known quantity to them, reliable, dependable, and what they need here, now. He also brings a wealth of experience in dealing with European markets that someone over here is less likely to have. Finding an American to do what he does isn't as simple as snapping your fingers or putting an ad on Indeed. 

 

I have heard conflicting info on whether people here on L1s who are planning on getting extensions (like him) this year will be banned from getting the extension. If they are, not only will we have to drop our plans for our wedding and accelerate them, causing financial plans we put in place a while ago to be scuppered, he will be out of a job, ANY job until his AOS is complete. I am not employed, and my independent source of income terminates when I marry him. So we will have NO earned income. I was in the process of setting up my consultancy when the pandemic hit, and what I do is difficult if not impossible to do remotely. We have sufficient assets to live on until he gets AOS finished, but his company will be out one of its star players in the meantime, and he will lose valuable months in continuing his career. He is the only L1 at this location; there are others back where he was before in San Francisco, and in other locations in the US. 

 

His work said not to worry about it, they've got it in hand but I worry. I worry a LOT. I also worry about his company losing the collective experience of its valued employees already over here, and the value people in other parts of the world can bring here. Organizations are as much about culture as they are about skills, and onramping people into a culture takes time and money. In a difficult time like now, it seems counterintuitive to do something like this. 

 

Just my biased opinion.

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On 6/10/2020 at 6:18 PM, Burnt Reynolds said:

The "administration" didn't cause these high unemployment numbers, state and local shutdowns did. We know exactly how low unemployment was thanks to the terrible orange man before those shutdown orders. Conveniently, you evade the premise of your own topic and miss the point of hiring Americans back, promoting American business, when it's suffering, rather than prioritizing foreigners. Easy to see through this flailing irrationality opposing these logical measures -- Trump 2020. 

He literally had zero to do with the low unemployment numbers. This path was initiated by his predecessors, who worked hand-in-hand on this topic and followed a long-term strategy when administration changed. Do some research on how long it takes an economy to recover from a recession and you'll have your answers.

And skilled workers with specific knowledge will always be needed to bring this economy forward. Many Americans have literally zero knowledge of global economy and specifics outside of the US, but just as many American companies operate successfully globally and do so because they don't rely on "America first" workforce. The US is a saturated market and economy won't be able to grow without global growth

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32 minutes ago, Quarknase said:

He literally had zero to do with the low unemployment numbers. This path was initiated by his predecessors, who worked hand-in-hand on this topic and followed a long-term strategy when administration changed. Do some research on how long it takes an economy to recover from a recession and you'll have your answers.

And skilled workers with specific knowledge will always be needed to bring this economy forward. Many Americans have literally zero knowledge of global economy and specifics outside of the US, but just as many American companies operate successfully globally and do so because they don't rely on "America first" workforce. The US is a saturated market and economy won't be able to grow without global growth

The economy is already recovering from a recession. I just see party mythological talking points followed by caricature of America First, as if the US and it's President is subservient to an arbitrary "global economy", when in fact "America First" should be the default position for any American leader. Other nations have no problem ensuring their people benefit from the use of their resources/land, which is why "American" companies operating abroad clearly employ a relativistic standpoint, respect their laws/customs, and hire in the countries they operate. Unfortunately, you're under the impression that relativism means "US last". Might be time for a wake-up call.

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VJ Moderation

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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