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My mother was petitioned for F4 by her brother in USA.

We have received Welcome letter from NVC in 2020.

 

I am the only one child(Son - 32 years old) of my parents. My name was not appeared as accompany.

 

My CSPA age is = ( (my current age 32) - waiting time(13 years, as applied in 2007)) = 19 years

 

I was get divorced in 2016. will i be considered as unmarried.

should i request to NVC to add me ACCOMPANY or it can effect/delay this case?

 

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If you were married either before or after the petition was filed then that would have disqualified you as a derivative at the time that happened, even if you are divorced since. For any new petition after the divorce was filed you would be considered single. So your parents can file for you after they get a green card as you are single now, and permanent residents can sponsor single adult children.

 

That aside, I believe you have the waiting time wrong. It is highly unlikely the case has only just been approved. The approval date is the one shown on an i797 approval notice, not the date on the welcome letter. It was probably a couple/few years after the case was filed for a 2007 case. (The date relevant for CSPA waiting time is approval date - priority date.)

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Posted (edited)

Hi,

 

Your calculation is wrong.  You do not get to subtract the entire time that you waited for the Priority Date to become current.  You only get to subtract the time it took USCIS to approve the petition.  You do not get to subtract the time that the case was waiting at the NVC.

When was the I-130 approved?  What are the first 4 numbers in the NVC case number?

 

It's highly unlikely that it took 11 years for USCIS to approve a case.  Furthermore, cases filed in 2007 have usually been approved by 2010.  Your CSPA age is well over 21 and that is why your name is not included.  

Sorry.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

If you were married either before or after the petition was filed then that would have disqualified you as a derivative at the time that happened, even if you are divorced since. For any new petition after the divorce was filed you would be considered single. So your parents can file for you after they get a green card as you are single now, and permanent residents can sponsor single adult children.

 

That aside, I believe you have the waiting time wrong. It is highly unlikely the case has only just been approved. The approval date is the one shown on an i797 approval notice, not the date on the welcome letter. It was probably a couple/few years after the case was filed for a 2007 case. (The date relevant for CSPA waiting time is approval date - priority date.)

This is incorrect.  I've known children who got married and subsequently divorced that were eligible derivatives.  

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14 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

This is incorrect.  I've known children who got married and subsequently divorced that were eligible derivatives.  

USCIS manual for F2 child states such cases are ineligible at the point of initial marriage, why would it be different for derivatives of such F cases?


 

Likely irrelevant here anyway as OP almost certainly has the approval date wrong.

 

Edit: ok, it seems for a derivative it can restore child status if both cspa under 21 and divorce occurs before visa available, according to another section of manual, seems inconsistent to me but it is fact, so apologies for incorrect statement above

 

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3 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

Hi,

 

Your calculation is wrong.  You do not get to subtract the entire time that you waited for the Priority Date to become current.  You only get to subtract the time it took USCIS to approve the petition.  You do not get to subtract the time that the case was waiting at the NVC.

When was the I-130 approved?  What are the first 4 numbers in the NVC case number?

 

It's highly unlikely that it took 11 years for USCIS to approve a case.  Furthermore, cases filed in 2007 have usually been approved by 2010.  Your CSPA age is well over 21 and that is why your name is not included.  

Sorry.

What are the first 4 numbers in the NVC case number? 

It's 2009

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1 minute ago, agha-badar said:

What are the first 4 numbers in the NVC case number? 

It's 2009

Yes, you have aged out.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

Posted
2 hours ago, agha-badar said:

Thanks for your feedback. 

 

Can i put any request to NVC over email, or it's not worthy?

What can be its consequences? 

Request for what exactly?

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Posted
4 hours ago, agha-badar said:

Thanks for your feedback. 

 

Can i put any request to NVC over email, or it's not worthy?

What can be its consequences? 

 

5 hours ago, agha-badar said:

What are the first 4 numbers in the NVC case number? 

It's 2009

So your CSPA age is around 30. It’s not a discretionary decision, over 21 is ineligible. You can request NVC to add you back (it seems they will if you insist as they do not decide eligibility) if you prefer to pay a few hundred dollars medical plus visa fees for a consular officer to tell you that officially. 

Posted
6 hours ago, agha-badar said:

it's not worthy?

You would be wasting your time and effort.  When you turned 21, + the approx 2 years of CSPA coverage, your eligibility ended.  I hope you didn't end you marriage thinking you were still immigrating.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

Posted
19 minutes ago, agha-badar said:

Request to add me with my parents, as we have a very small family. can be difficult to live separate.

 

Are they can consider my request, and does it a good approach for our case?

At 32 you’re definitely not a child and they most certainly won’t approve you for an immigrant visa just because you’re a “very small family”. 

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Posted

You are 32 years old, you are not considered a child. Your case will not be treated differently with or without your request. Uscis is not forcing your family apart, its your parents choice to do that. Once they become green card holders they can apply for you but you have to remain unmarried for another 8 or so years to join them.

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4 minutes ago, ZirZai said:

You are 32 years old, you are not considered a child. Your case will not be treated differently with or without your request. Uscis is not forcing your family apart, its your parents choice to do that. Once they become green card holders they can apply for you but you have to remain unmarried for another 8 or so years to join them.

i have heard , GC holder sponsor for unmarried adult takes 2-4 years.

is this possible.

 
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