Redundant Forms

[Daron and Honey 6]

Seriously...this is starting to get ridiculous.  Ever time I submit a form to NVC, they are wanting another. All forms have been submitted to USCIS and have been trasnsfered to NVC.  SO..why?  Why do i need these forms again?  Our immigration is now dragging to 2 years in process for an IR1 in which we have been married for over 8 years.  They are asking for W2's related to my Tax returns....*********removed*******.  These forms are going to start running into each other(which year you want?)  if they keep asking for more redundant forms.  Hey, were married, we have been apart long enough.  Go pick on a K1 or something.😡🥵😡

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[payxibka 10,047]

Not redundant,  evidence of financial support is NOT submitted to the USCIS but only to NVC

[Crazy Cat 42,514]

9 minutes ago, Daron and Honey said:

Hey, were married, we have been apart long enough.  Go pick on a K1 or something.😡🥵😡

This process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, patience, time, and money........and every stage of the process requires new documentation.  

[Ban Hammer 13,620]

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[Marieke H 2,524]

19 minutes ago, Daron and Honey said:

Go pick on a K1 or something.😡🥵😡

No one is picking on anyone, and you're not more important than someone doing a K1.

 

Throughout the immigration journey, all the way to citizenship, you will be asked to submit documents that may seem redundant or unnecessary. The best way to handle that is to just do as you're told.

[Daron and Honey 6]

*Tax Forms Sent to USCIS

*Divorce decree sent to USCIS.

*Birth certificates sent to USCIS

*Marriage certificate sent to USCIS

*i-864 sent again because the 2 blank pages 9-10 not sent NVC.

 

All this is the list of one by one NVC keep asking for.  All has been done before.  All required forms from the NVC package has been completed, submitted, accepted and still asking for more paper work.  Has been going on for over a month.

 

I would prefer just to allow NVC to access IRS information than me trying to locate, scan, and submit documents that have already been submitted. 

 

Also,  I am not talking about New forms. These are all personal files that have all been submitted at one point in time.  

[payxibka 10,047]

A proper read of the instructions would have eliminated some of the redundancy.   For that there is no one to blame 

[igoyougoduke 1,676]

15 minutes ago, Daron and Honey said:

*Tax Forms Sent to USCIS

*Divorce decree sent to USCIS.

*Birth certificates sent to USCIS

*Marriage certificate sent to USCIS

*i-864 sent again because the 2 blank pages 9-10 not sent NVC.

 

All this is the list of one by one NVC keep asking for.  All has been done before.  All required forms from the NVC package has been completed, submitted, accepted and still asking for more paper work.  Has been going on for over a month.

 

I would prefer just to allow NVC to access IRS information than me trying to locate, scan, and submit documents that have already been submitted. 

 

Also,  I am not talking about New forms. These are all personal files that have all been submitted at one point in time.  

Its your application and its your responsibility to provide the document to the government. Dont blame any one else.  Just relax and take a break if its stressing you . You will get through it. 

[Daron and Honey 6]

18 minutes ago, payxibka said:

A proper read of the instructions would have eliminated some of the redundancy.   For that there is no one to blame 

Yes, for once you do say something correct.  A proper read would be beneficial to...you.  Instead of just chiming in mayb a proper read of what i actually wrote might be beneficial to everyone. 

[payxibka 10,047]

1 minute ago, Daron and Honey said:

Yes, for once you do say something correct.  A proper read would be beneficial to...you.  Instead of just chiming in mayb a proper read of what i actually wrote might be beneficial to everyone. 

Beneficial to me?  I already have and know that financial evidence is not submitted to the uscis. 

[Daron and Honey 6]

1 minute ago, payxibka said:

Beneficial to me?  I already have and know that financial evidence is not submitted to the uscis. 

ALL Documents scanned, submitted, accepted to and by the NVC.

 

really,  is like this time a guy tried saying to me that the NVC was not Dept. of State.

[Marieke H 2,524]

You have 2 options.

 

You can whine and complain about how unfair it is that they keep asking for documents that you think are redundant or unnecessary.

 

Or you can read the instructions very carefully and try to understand exactly what they are asking for, and just send them that. If you need help figuring out exactly what they want, post the message here (without any personal information) so we can help. If they request something that was already submitted, try to understand why they would request it again. Was the quality of the document good enough, or was it blurry and hard to read? Were any pages missing? Do they want a more recent year? Send them exactly what they requested so your process can keep moving. 

 

I once created a "translation" of my international birth certificate that already included an English section. It made no sense, but I was told to provide a translation, so I copied the English section to a separate document and provided a translator certification with it. It was stupid and unnecessary and not worthy of an RFE that delayed the process. But I sent them exactly what they asked for and got approved. 

 

Just do as you're told, it really is the only path to approval. 

 

Good luck!

[pushbrk 13,166]

Anything you sent USCIS that was not required at that stage of the process, is going to be requested by NVC.  The redundancy is on you, not them. I-864 and financial documents must be CURRENT, at the  time your case is at NVC.  Financial documentation submitted as much as a year or so prior, is useless to  NVC and is ignored.  It is not their job to go through what was in you previous package and adjust their request.  Everybody sends the same documents as applicable to their case.

 

Had you read and followed the I-130 instructions to begin with, you would not have sent in the documents you are now calling redundant.  YOU caused this problem.  I suggest you stop whining and follow the current instructions for the current stage of the process.

[aus2tx 168]

Man, I'm with you. I'm mad too! 10 years and counting and now everything is closed.

 

TBH the most redundant information I found was the DS260. Which was 90% of the questions asked on the I-130. 

 

But hey! All you need are your W2s! You're almost at the light at the end of the long NVC tunnel!

[pushbrk 13,166]

1 minute ago, aus2tx said:

Man, I'm with you. I'm mad too! 10 years and counting and now everything is closed.

 

TBH the most redundant information I found was the DS260. Which was 90% of the questions asked on the I-130. 

 

But hey! All you need are your W2s! You're almost at the light at the end of the long NVC tunnel!

You are correct as applies to information required by multiple forms is redundant, but that's not the OP's complaint.  Typically, in a spouse visa case, the initial biographical information is submitted by the petitioner in behalf of the intending immigrant.  At the NVC Stage (visa application stage) the DS 260 (visa application) is the direct responsibility of the visa applicant.  Much of the information is already on the I-130 and I-130a and financial forms but a longer work and residence history is required along with education history not previously provided.