What is antifa?

[90DayFinancier 910]

Since the term gets thrown around more than a ball here, we should have a definition:

 

https://www.livescience.com/what-is-antifa.html

By the 1980s, people who opposed fascism in Europe's punk-rock communities were referring to themselves using the shortened term "antifa." But the term is often poorly understood. Antifa is not an organization; nor is it precisely a movement, though protestors of fascism worldwide may rally behind antifa banners and flags, historians and experts on fascism and antifascism told Live Science.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

That is not what antifa is today in America.  Just as BLM don't really (matter) when black rioters are destroying the businesses of innocent blacks.

 

It's all just an excuse for wanton destruction.

 

[90DayFinancier 910]

Okay we will take your word over what is published.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

13 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Okay we will take your word over what is published.

Yes, because everything you read on the internet is true.  Abe Lincoln told me himself!!

 

 

[90DayFinancier 910]

Interesting, double watermarks. And not that funny

 

This is funny, layers of humour:

 

"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
~ Abraham Lincoln (source: the Internet)

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

42 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

That is not what antifa is today in America.  Just as BLM don't really (matter) when black rioters are destroying the businesses of innocent blacks.

 

It's all just an excuse for wanton destruction.

 

Over 260000 black men murdered in America since 1980. Mostly by other young black men. Somehow white people and police officers are the biggest threat.

[laylalex 7,284]

If you haven't noticed, the protests have gotten significantly more peaceful and larger over the weekend. The protests are back to being what they were supposed to be about: communities saying that a change needs to happen, and soon. We drove up PCH today into Malibu and then down into Topanga Canyon, then over through the Valley before going through Beverly Hills and West Hollywood. All along the way we saw protests, mostly small ones, a few people or a few dozen people, holding signs stating No Justice No Peace, or Black Lives Matter. People in their cars honked their support and yelled out "thank you!" to the protesters. Not that it matters much, but most of the protesters were white.

 

My city was torn up, people have suffered great losses here. But there was no loss of life. I'm sorry but for me, a life is worth more than property. There's always more money to be earned, even if it is hard to get, but once a life is gone, that's it. We support the protests in this house but we are not taking part directly because of health concerns -- while I might not have had COVID19, I was very sick for quite a long time. My immune system is not the greatest right now.

 

Pay attention to the signal, not the noise. The noise is getting weaker and weaker and the signal is loud and clear. 

[Dashinka 24,491]

6 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Okay we will take your word over what is published.

Lot of stuff published everywhere regarding a great number of things that are taken with a grain of salt.  Antifa today is showing itself to be one of the most fascist anti-free speech leftist movements I have seen.  Their promotion of the cancel culture is truly disturbing.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

7 hours ago, laylalex said:

If you haven't noticed, the protests have gotten significantly more peaceful and larger over the weekend. The protests are back to being what they were supposed to be about: communities saying that a change needs to happen, and soon. We drove up PCH today into Malibu and then down into Topanga Canyon, then over through the Valley before going through Beverly Hills and West Hollywood. All along the way we saw protests, mostly small ones, a few people or a few dozen people, holding signs stating No Justice No Peace, or Black Lives Matter. People in their cars honked their support and yelled out "thank you!" to the protesters. Not that it matters much, but most of the protesters were white.

 

My city was torn up, people have suffered great losses here. But there was no loss of life. I'm sorry but for me, a life is worth more than property. There's always more money to be earned, even if it is hard to get, but once a life is gone, that's it. We support the protests in this house but we are not taking part directly because of health concerns -- while I might not have had COVID19, I was very sick for quite a long time. My immune system is not the greatest right now.

 

Pay attention to the signal, not the noise. The noise is getting weaker and weaker and the signal is loud and clear. 

Is it because people have had a change of heart over the matter?  Or because everyone who needed a free TV or free shoes got theirs already?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

It's great that things have turned less violent in some areas.  Where I live, things never got ugly. There was a protest a block away from my house, all went well AFAIK (I left just before curfew).  

[Dashinka 24,491]

22 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Is it because people have had a change of heart over the matter?  Or because everyone who needed a free TV or free shoes got theirs already?

The narrative is changing, it started as we need to defund the police departments, to now we need to disband the police departments.  So to me it sounds like Antifa, and the anarchists in general, are changing their tactics.  The sad thing is that if police departments are disbanded, it will be those in the lower class that will suffer the most, not the rich that can move or hide behind walls and private security.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

The narrative is changing, it started as we need to defund the police departments, to now we need to disband the police departments.  So to me it sounds like Antifa, and the anarchists in general, are changing their tactics.  The sad thing is that if police departments are disbanded, it will be those in the lower class that will suffer the most, not the rich that can move or hide behind walls and private security.

Yep.  And in another thread, I mentioned the sudden uptick in gun purchases.  And I suspect many of those are first-time purchases.  Fingers crossed for a positive outcome.

[90DayFinancier 910]

I see no evidence that those attempting to rebut the article above have read it. 

 

https://www.livescience.com/what-is-antifa.html

[Dashinka 24,491]

30 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I see no evidence that those attempting to rebut the article above have read it. 

 

https://www.livescience.com/what-is-antifa.html

I got to the section titled Combating Fascism, and started laughing so hard, I could not go on.  The thing about speaking truth to power, is that there has to be truth first.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Yep.  And in another thread, I mentioned the sudden uptick in gun purchases.  And I suspect many of those are first-time purchases.  Fingers crossed for a positive outcome.