James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution

[Steeleballz 7,550]

56 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

no.  denigrating someone's appearance is attacking their appearance, not their job performance.

 

   Yeah, the concepts themselves are clear.

 

   I dispute your claim Obama was only being attacked based on job performance, and your assertion that Trump is only criticized for his appearance.

[90DayFinancier 910]

On 6/6/2020 at 9:43 AM, Ban Hammer said:

obummer was about his policies, not the color of his skin.  yet this forum was inundated with "orange man bad" - which is about someone's flesh tone and not about his policies..........

Politicians referenced Michelle's body as ape-like, people insisted on seeing Obama's birth certificate, posters with nooses, say "hang in the 0bama", all of these stemmed from his race.

 

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,386]

3 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Politicians referenced Michelle's body as ape-like, people insisted on seeing Obama's birth certificate, posters with nooses, say "hang in the 0bama", all of these stemmed from his race.

 

 

And they do the exact same to Trump. That is my problem with the race debate in America. Its all one way. Black people can say and do the most absurdly racist things and its ok.

If a white person makes the slightest slip of the tounge they are vilified, fired etc.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

And they do the exact same to Trump. That is my problem with the race debate in America. Its all one way. Black people can say and do the most absurdly racist things and its ok.

If a white person makes the slightest slip of the tounge they are vilified, fired etc.

 

    Who has been making racist comments about Trump?  

[90DayFinancier 910]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

And they do the exact same to Trump. That is my problem with the race debate in America. Its all one way. Black people can say and do the most absurdly racist things and its ok.

If a white person makes the slightest slip of the tounge they are vilified, fired etc.

I am not seeing that, at least in the context of Trump. I am open to dialog though.

 

Obama was born with African heritage and brown skin. 

Trump's skin is orange because of a spray on tan. George Hamilton made fun of himself in a KFC commercial for the tan.  How is this comparable? Trump has created a brand for himself with artificial trappings, if they make him or break him, he was not born that way.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Who has been making racist comments about Trump?  

Picking on orange men and comparing him to umpa loompas

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

 

Picking on orange men and comparing him to umpa loompas

 

   Certainly it's an insult based on Trump's appearance, but I hope people are not confusing that with actual racist slurs like the Obama's had to endure. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,386]

36 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Who has been making racist comments about Trump?  

So if he was black and I said big brown Hershey's bar bad instead of big oarnge cheeto bad that would be racists.  That is the exact double standard I am talking about.

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,386]

27 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Certainly it's an insult based on Trump's appearance, but I hope people are not confusing that with actual racist slurs like the Obama's had to endure. 

Trump was called an orangutan. But yet you said comparing Michelle to an ape was racist.

They are the same thing. Exactly the same. Yet one is funny and polite in liberal circles and one would get you fired and cause protests. BIG DOUBLE STANDARD

We cant move forward with a double standard. 

[Ban Hammer 13,643]

57 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Politicians referenced Michelle's body as ape-like, people insisted on seeing Obama's birth certificate, posters with nooses, say "hang in the 0bama", all of these stemmed from his race.

 

 

do i really need to point out that i did say within this forum?  #1, #3, and #4 would have been tos violations as they were race related. 

[TBoneTX 46,276]

1 hour ago, 90DayFinancier said:

ape-like

Some of us accept this appellation proudly.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

18 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So if he was black and I said big brown Hershey's bar bad instead of big oarnge cheeto bad that would be racists.  That is the exact double standard I am talking about.

 

 

   Certainly could be. When I played football in high school, our team and another got suspended for the rest of the season over a fight that was initiated by someone referring to an African American player as a specific type of chocolate bar. However I don't know anyone's specific intent, but they certainly are leaving themselves open to being accused of racism for that reference.

 

   The point really is there are no orange skinned people, so there really can't be any racist connotation behind that "Cheeto" comment, although it is still derogatory.

Edited June 8, 2020 by Steeleballz

[90DayFinancier 910]

16 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So if he was black and I said big brown Hershey's bar bad instead of big oarnge cheeto bad that would be racists.  That is the exact double standard I am talking about.

 

I am not black (I think), I don't wear a orange spray tan. If I did and you made fun of that, it might be a personal attack but not a racially connected attack.  Do you see attacking a very poor choice in personal style as a slight against a race?

 

 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

14 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

do i really need to point out that i did say within this forum?  #1, #3, and #4 would have been tos violations as they were race related. 

 

  Do you not remember removing any race related derogatory posts about Obama over the years? 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,386]

Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

  Do you not remember removing any race related derogatory posts about Obama over the years? 

I think i recall the ape reference to be honest. 

[90DayFinancier 910]

16 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

do i really need to point out that i did say within this forum?  #1, #3, and #4 would have been tos violations as they were race related. 

Fair enough, you did say here, in CEHEST.

 

Forgive me for letting the marching occuring in the streets incur on our current dialog.