Murder charge elevated to 2nd degree in George Floyd case; all four officers now face charges

[Sarge2155 4,590]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

I protest what the four cops did to George Floyd.  I want to see justice for the man.

 

I don't think burning, breaking windows, destroying others' property, killing, looting, rioting, etc. will cause the four officers to get a speedier trial, nor a stiffer sentence.

 

I see no need to go out and destroy my community because of four bad apples a thousand miles away.  I see no reason to act as a lawless animal, actually worse than an animal, because animals don't destroy their own neighborhoods, they protect them.

 

Right now is the time to let the justice system work.  If the cops get off, THEN would be a more appropriate time for protesting.

 

But hey, at least we revealed social distancing for the sham that it has been all along.

Throughout American history there have been "people worst than animals" not just in 2020 have you ever heard of and or read about Black Wall Street? The Tulsa race riot (1921)...now those were animals. I won't post the link for the story but google it if you care to read how to properly define animals! Racial discussions usually always end bad and I normally try to avoid them, but I just wanted to reply to this post.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

8 minutes ago, Sarge2155 said:

Throughout American history there have been "people worst than animals" not just in 2020 have you ever heard of and or read about Black Wall Street? The Tulsa race riot (1921)...now those were animals. I won't post the link for the story but google it if you care to read how to properly define animals! Racial discussions usually always end bad and I normally try to avoid them, but I just wanted to reply to this post.

That was a piece of history that floored me, I consider myself well read but had not heard of that in my 60+ years until I bumped into it on youtube.

 

the post reconstruction period is also pretty heinous

[Sarge2155 4,590]

3 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

That was a piece of history that floored me, I consider myself well read but had not heard of that in my 60+ years until I bumped into it on youtube.

 

the post reconstruction period is also pretty heinous

I feel you, we do share alike those 60+ years my friend.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

13 minutes ago, Sarge2155 said:

I feel you, we do share alike those 60+ years my friend.

I know we have spoken before 

[yuna628 9,700]

3 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

That was a piece of history that floored me, I consider myself well read but had not heard of that in my 60+ years until I bumped into it on youtube.

 

the post reconstruction period is also pretty heinous

HBO recreated the Tulsa massacre for the tv show Watchmen as part of the story line. I think maybe the first time anyone had ever paid it significant attention and most people were very confused about if the events depicted were real or not. A lot of people learned of it that night. It doesn't seem to be something taught about in our history books, and should be.

[Sarge2155 4,590]

2 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

HBO recreated the Tulsa massacre for the tv show Watchmen as part of the story line. I think maybe the first time anyone had ever paid it significant attention and most people were very confused about if the events depicted were real or not. A lot of people learned of it that night. It doesn't seem to be something taught about in our history books, and should be.

History books, when it comes to racial history are very skimpy and weak at best. One area where we as Americans tip toe or better yet fail to recount unpleasant but historical true events. It's sad but true and I agree it should be recounted even if that history is unkind  and unpleasant.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

2 minutes ago, Sarge2155 said:

History books, when it comes to racial history are very skimpy and weak at best. One area where we as Americans tip toe or better yet fail to recount unpleasant but historical true events. It's sad but true and I agree it should be recounted even if that history is unkind  and unpleasant.

The key point is "history". Presenting those things as relevant in 2020 in the context delivered today has nothing to do with racial inequality, should not be treated as such. 

 

The outrage and desire to see the cop pay was universal, something seen as not possible even several decades ago. Any honest discussion would take into account the overwhelming progress but somehow that acknowledgment is entirely absent and America is treated like the slavery era never ended. 

 

The political dishonesty is clear and need not be tolerated. Using other races as political fodder is pathetic but clearly not beyond the woke demographic, just clear they don't give one fat ####### about blacks or anyone else but getting their way. It's why when they demand others kneel they're standing, very symbolically about making others literally bend the knee. Not a chance. 

[OriZ 3,157]

8 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

Are the 4 police in Minneapolis being charged? Are they under arrest?
 

If they are acquitted then there is reason for unbridled anger
 

the purpose of the RIOTERS has been satisfied, no one is arguing the righteousness and legality of the protesters. Police. Civic leaders, Democrats independents Republicans. Asians, Blacks and Whites Christians, Jews and Muslims have decried the murder of Mr Floyd, there is no disagreement among rational humans.

 

You are honestly ok with this violence?  If so I would not count you in the rational human group 

Nobody in their right mind should be ok with the violence. Anyone who is should get themselves checked.

[Dashinka 24,740]

9 hours ago, OriZ said:

Nobody in their right mind should be ok with the violence. Anyone who is should get themselves checked.

And yet there are plenty of people justifying the violence and looting.  I have not heard anyone trying to defend these cops from Minneapolis.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

9 hours ago, OriZ said:

Nobody in their right mind should be ok with the violence. Anyone who is should get themselves checked.

That was my entire point

[OriZ 3,157]

2 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

That was my entire point

I was agreeing with you

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

6 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I was agreeing with you

Can’t have that now, can we 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

And yet there are plenty of people justifying the violence and looting.  I have not heard anyone trying to defend these cops from Minneapolis.

It's people over property don't you know. Also I was told yesterday that Law and Order is only in reference to property but not over people. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

And yet there are plenty of people justifying the violence and looting.  I have not heard anyone trying to defend these cops from Minneapolis.

 

    No one is defending them because the murder was caught on video. However people do recognize it is a systematic issue with law enforcement, and if there were no cameras, chances are this would have all been swept under the rug like many other cases we have heard about. The officers would have a short stint on desk duty and Mr. Floyd would have been deemed to have died from pre-existing health conditions. It's been a pattern for too long. 

 

   

 

  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

50 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    No one is defending them because the murder was caught on video. However people do recognize it is a systematic issue with law enforcement, and if there were no cameras, chances are this would have all been swept under the rug like many other cases we have heard about. The officers would have a short stint on desk duty and Mr. Floyd would have been deemed to have died from pre-existing health conditions. It's been a pattern for too long. 

 

   

 

  

Dont disagree but also in some cases young black men get killed by the police and its jsutfied, yet we still have riots, looting and stealing. Michael Brown comes to mind as does Treyvon Martin who was shot while beating someones face into the pavment yet the same reaction 

Edited June 5, 2020 by Nature Boy 2.0