Airlines announce new domestic flight schedules for June

[BOKURAGAITA 103]

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/5/31/June-domestic-flight-schedules-PAL-Cebu-Pacific-AirAsia.html

[Crazy Cat 42,333]

****Moved to the Philippines regional discussion area*****

[apellica 80]

The problem with all these articles, they fail to mention the policies that are being enacted by most provinces where that you need a travel certificate to get on a plane.  Acquiring this certificate is at least a 2-2.5 week process.  I wouldn't book a ticket unless you definitely know you can get on that plane.  Be careful of these hidden rules....

[BOKURAGAITA 103]

10 minutes ago, apellica said:

The problem with all these articles, they fail to mention the policies that are being enacted by most provinces where that you need a travel certificate to get on a plane.  Acquiring this certificate is at least a 2-2.5 week process.  I wouldn't book a ticket unless you definitely know you can get on that plane.  Be careful of these hidden rules....

Yes i know, in my case if iam going to travel domestically i make sure i asked our Mayor what are the options if providing his certificate travel pass to let me in or i dont know. But yes i agree i wish it has policies soo those who travels are aware what ti bring and do to let them in. 

[Allovertheworld 355]

20 hours ago, Carin Bulado said:

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/5/31/June-domestic-flight-schedules-PAL-Cebu-Pacific-AirAsia.html

CNN is not a trusted new source anymore. When and if you see anything released by CNN one must question if it is a legitimate statement.  

[BOKURAGAITA 103]

1 hour ago, Allovertheworld said:

CNN is not a trusted new source anymore. When and if you see anything released by CNN one must question if it is a legitimate statement.  

Well i don't trust them too, but they are the first media to post that (maybe theres any website but i didnt see it). There is one airline here that limits international flights in diff states but the ither two airline do not have any international flights in and out yet. 

[flicks1998 1,044]

It appears provinces are trying to delay the start of domestic flights.  Few articles out in the Philstar etc.  Alot of my expats friends who have lived for years in the PI are now seriously thinking of bailing out for good.  If you need to get to Manila, its going to be a complete nightmare for the rest of the year, just my hunch.  Its Filipino chaos at its finest which is actually the reason we decided to move back to the US, although the US is in a similar but different situation.  Fun times ahead but its starting to get tiring.  Interview delayed now 3 months with no end in sight. 

 

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/06/01/2017952/cab-airlines-cancel-domestic-flights

 

Edited June 2, 2020 by flicks1998

[Allovertheworld 355]

3 hours ago, flicks1998 said:

It appears provinces are trying to delay the start of domestic flights.  Few articles out in the Philstar etc.  Alot of my expats friends who have lived for years in the PI are now seriously thinking of bailing out for good.  If you need to get to Manila, its going to be a complete nightmare for the rest of the year, just my hunch.  Its Filipino chaos at its finest which is actually the reason we decided to move back to the US, although the US is in a similar but different situation.  Fun times ahead but its starting to get tiring.  Interview delayed now 3 months with no end in sight. 

 

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/06/01/2017952/cab-airlines-cancel-domestic-flights

 

What a nightmare. 

[BOKURAGAITA 103]

[Allovertheworld 355]

Until they get rid of the silly quarantine procedure, you will not see any tourist going to Philippines.

 

Nobody want to be quarantined in a 3rd World Country with limited medical facilites

[BOKURAGAITA 103]

54 minutes ago, Allovertheworld said:

Until they get rid of the silly quarantine procedure, you will not see any tourist going to Philippines.

 

Nobody want to be quarantined in a 3rd World Country with limited medical facilites

Then wait until our country open for tourist, if your being impatience you have a lot of choices all over Asia who lifted lockdown. 

 

If you don't want to be quarantine in a 3rd world country then book your trip for the next 2 years. 

 

Just my opinion. 

 

 

[Allovertheworld 355]

1 hour ago, Carin Bulado said:

Then wait until our country open for tourist, if your being impatience you have a lot of choices all over Asia who lifted lockdown. 

 

If you don't want to be quarantine in a 3rd world country then book your trip for the next 2 years. 

 

Just my opinion. 

 

 

I am well established in Phillippines,  Spent over 3 years of my life there in the last 14 years. Places know me, Restaurants and bars in Manila know where I like to sit and what to eat and drink. Hotels know my routines and accommodate to them. I have vehicles there, lots of clothes, I have relative living there that I get to only see when I go to there or they come home to USA to buy stuff to take back to Philippine.    Plus I have long time friends there I enjoy catching up on when I go there.

 

I have figured out how to get around, how to get thing done and how the society is. I have explored many places in Philippines, I have many many more uncharted areas to explore.

[BOKURAGAITA 103]

4 hours ago, Allovertheworld said:

I am well established in Phillippines,  Spent over 3 years of my life there in the last 14 years. Places know me, Restaurants and bars in Manila know where I like to sit and what to eat and drink. Hotels know my routines and accommodate to them. I have vehicles there, lots of clothes, I have relative living there that I get to only see when I go to there or they come home to USA to buy stuff to take back to Philippine.    Plus I have long time friends there I enjoy catching up on when I go there.

 

I have figured out how to get around, how to get thing done and how the society is. I have explored many places in Philippines, I have many many more uncharted areas to explore.

Good for you but Duterte  will not going to let you in during the pandemic and to be honest "the well established"  none of that really matters right now because as what i have read in an online statements from the DOT (Dept. of Tourism) they are doing it slowly and they need to make sure that locals go first. I tried to trace again the statement since that was 2 weeks ago, my fiancé can't even travel but complaining will not going to change the Pres. order. 

 

Goodluck. 

[BOKURAGAITA 103]

The gov't always make an update of the travel, you can always check it online. I hope they change plans for this year that no tourist not until 2021. 

[flicks1998 1,044]

16 minutes ago, Carin Bulado said:

Good for you but Duterte  will not going to let you in during the pandemic and to be honest "the well established"  none of that really matters right now because as what i have read in an online statements from the DOT (Dept. of Tourism) they are doing it slowly and they need to make sure that locals go first. I tried to trace again the statement since that was 2 weeks ago, my fiancé can't even travel but complaining will not going to change the Pres. order. 

 

Goodluck. 

I have a question on what you would consider locals and I know this is the wrong board to probably ask as we are all here to support each other in this long visa process we find ourselves in.  For the last 10 years I have lived and worked in Manila and returned to the US in January for the first time since March of 2010.  I have an almost 8 year old son in the Philippines who I am the biological father and the legal parent as the mother passed away 6 years ago.  Luckily my fiance and some others have been able to watch him but why am I not allowed back?  Its this stupidity on why all of us decided to start the fiance visa process and leave as there is no future for my son there anyway. I have contacted the Philippine Embassy in DC and no one can even give an answer.  I get the "its just the way it is", the same reaction I would get in Manila.  I am seriously considering the drastic step and have my son dropped of at the US Embassy and left there, would I then be allowed to come get him?  I have researched myriads of other countries who still have bans on foreigners, but everyone I have researched I could come back if I had kids there.  But not the Philippines.

 

Also and this is our cultural differences considering complaining.  Americans love to complain, its part of our culture and if its done in a constructive nature, can actually help.  It CAN get things done.  However, this was the most frustrating thing for me working in Manila, is nobody would complain, everyone would just accept the situation and I constantly saw locals get walked all over because of this.  I understand its a very top down approach in the Philippines and very few people can make decisions without consulting their manager (because thats the way it is) but when people accept pure incompetence, its when frustrations set in.  The way this situation has been handled in the Philippines has been a comedy and I have very little faith that much will change this year.  In fact, most locals dont truly understand the nature of this virus. Most are still under the impression that every 20 year old exposed to it is going to die. Also, I lost the little respect I have for Duterte when he said schools will not open until a vaccine is found.  Well, there never has been a vaccine found for a coronavirus and people seem to think that early next year its possible, but thats best case scenario and very optimistic.  How are students going to learn remotely where a good portion of the country doesnt even have reliable internet?  I dont want my son in a school there, its one of the reasons why we are leaving.  

 

These are all rhetorical questions and you dont need to answer them, Im just giving you a hard time but just showing you another perspective.  However, I would love to see Filipinos start to push back as a group on many of the ridiculous rules in place now.  There is no coordination.  Look at the chaos in Manila on Monday when there was practically no transportation but people had to go back to work.  My respect for the locals would increase so much if they finally did complain and push back on the myriad of rules and laws, and passes that are required to do anything there.  People just accept every situation and thats not how it should work.  I remember I had team members commuting 3 hours one way from Valenzuela, Antipolo, south of Calamba on a daily basis when the subway around Manila should have been built 10 years ago.  I have seen the blue prints, seen where are the station are to be located but nothing gets done as nobody pushes as they just accept and dont want to complain.  So what did I have? Completely exhausted employees every day with total commute times of up to 6 hours.  And yes, corruption does created other problems.

 

As I said we are all in this together at this point, but the frustrations are at about peak level because as most of the world starts to open up in someway, the Philippines still has zero coordinated effort in so many different aspects, and through my experience there, it will always be chaotic which is scary as many of us may have to wait until next year or who knows when.  Maybe the godfather says no foreigners until there is a vaccine   

 

This post is long enough.   At least good luck on your visa process.