Met fiancée through her work has a webcam model

[Villanelle 4,122]

2 hours ago, laylalex said:

I think that cam work isn't illegal per se because there is no physical contact. (I did a little research last night on it, quite interesting, but I'm no lawyer so take my research with a grain of salt!) It's, um, whether there are any "extracurricular" activities outside of the chatting that could be problematic. 

 

Again I say all of this without judgment. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I agree the job is potentially more of a problem than the meeting online. 

There is a surprising number of cam model/ USC relationships. More then one would think. Sometimes its even the USC being the cam model. In those cases its usually more an issue of the USC proving their income from that type of work. Ive never come across anyone who was trying to petition for an overseas cam model that had a problem because they were in said profession specifically. 

 

Technically the 'work' is considered legal but its a really gray area. And its not so much prostitution its more the whole 'filming of porn' aspect. Many performers are doing this at home in residential neighborhoods, some even have minor children present in the home. There is a variety of legal ramifications from various angles. But Ive never heard of anyone in the US getting in trouble for cam modeling unless they had other issues going on like escorting which is prostitution or drugs. 

 

 

[Ironclad43 131]

I think it'll be harder to prove a bonafide marriage considering her line of work, rather than any other concern.

[laylalex 7,284]

6 minutes ago, Ironclad43 said:

I think it'll be harder to prove a bonafide marriage considering her line of work, rather than any other concern.

Why? They're not married yet and they're going for a K1, so they wouldn't have to prove a bona fide marriage -- there isn't one yet. Right?

 

Also, why wouldn't a webcam model be able to fall in love with someone and marry them? I have a friend who supported herself through part of grad school doing cam work (it can be VERY hard work, which is why she quit) and she had a relationship at the time with someone who knew what she did. Ultimately it's only a job.  

[Orangesapples 1,954]

1 hour ago, Ironclad43 said:

I think it'll be harder to prove a bonafide marriage considering her line of work, rather than any other concern.

I don't think that's a problem, I've never seen it as an issue cited by others before. USCIS doesn't care about your sex life (for the most part), they care about whether the relationship is for immigration purposes or not. 

[Boiler 45,466]

§ 40.24 Prostitution and commercialized vice.

(a) Activities within 10 years preceding visa application. An alien shall be ineligible under INA 212(a)(2)(D) only if -

(1) The alien is coming to the United States solely, principally, or incidentally to engage in prostitution, or has engaged in prostitution, or the alien directly or indirectly procures or attempts to procure, or procured or attempted to procure or to import prostitutes or persons for the purposes of prostitution, or receives or received, in whole or in part, the proceeds of prostitution; and

(2) The alien has performed one of the activities listed in § 40.24(a)(1) within the last ten years.

(b) Prostitution defined. The term “prostitution” means engaging in promiscuous sexual intercourse for hire. A finding that an alien has “engaged” in prostitution must be based on elements of continuity and regularity, indicating a pattern of behavior or deliberate course of conduct entered into primarily for financial gain or for other considerations of material value as distinguished from the commission of casual or isolated acts.

(c) Where prostitution not illegal. An alien who is within one or more of the classes described in INA 212(a)(2)(D) is ineligible to receive a visa under that section even if the acts engaged in are not prohibited under the laws of the foreign country where the acts occurred.

(d) Waiver of ineligibility - INA 212(h). If an immigrant visa applicant is ineligible under INA 212(a)(2)(D) but is qualified to seek the benefits of INA 212(h), the consular officer shall inform the alien of the procedure for applying to DHS for relief under that provision of law. A visa may not be issued to the alien until the consular officer has received notification from DHS of the approval of the alien's application under INA 212(h).

[laylalex 7,284]

Okay, so since there's no sexual intercourse involved pretty much by definition when it's webcam work, it seems like it wouldn't come into play unless there is "extracurricular" activity. Intercourse is a different thing than activity or performance. 

[payxibka 10,045]

21 hours ago, laylalex said:

I don't want to cause any offense here so I will ask this as delicately as I can, and I really mean this in a judgment-free way. I know that cam girls/webcam models get paid for what they do, and they absolutely SHOULD get paid for it.  And I understand that it is usually completely legal. But I do not know if there are potential implications like what I read some women who were bar girls in the Philippines go through when getting petitioned. There are presumptions I would think that USCIS/DHS might make about her job that theoretically could make things difficult at a later stage. It could be an uncomfortable discussion but it might be an important one if you have not had it already.

Bar girls do "boom boom" , webcam models don't.   Important difference. 

[laylalex 7,284]

2 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Bar girls do "boom boom" , webcam models don't.   Important difference. 

Yeah -- I was thinking about that thread the other week with the woman who worked in a bar as a musician/singer and her fiance said she wasn't a "boom boom" girl. But of course people make assumptions, like people make assumptions about exotic dancers and camgirls and phone sex workers. So I guess what I was getting at is that the OP should be ready for difficult questions even though he may have very straightforward and acceptable answers for them.  

[payxibka 10,045]

1 minute ago, laylalex said:

Yeah -- I was thinking about that thread the other week with the woman who worked in a bar as a musician/singer and her fiance said she wasn't a "boom boom" girl. But of course people make assumptions, like people make assumptions about exotic dancers and camgirls and phone sex workers. So I guess what I was getting at is that the OP should be ready for difficult questions even though he may have very straightforward and acceptable answers for them.  

The OP isn't going to get any difficult questions.   Possibly the OPs  fiancee

[dadadada 14]

Thanks everyone.

 

If my fiancee is pigeon holed as a prostitute for her work history after honestly answering whatever questions are asked of her, I feel we have bigger problems that aren't so much under our control.

 

We will be honest and complete and hope everything works out in the end.

[the johnsons 0]

Not sure if you use this website anymore. But I have some questions about your situation. My wife is Russian and webcam model, also will be interviewing in Warsaw. We didn't originally list her job on the application forms but assuming they will ask her about her job at the interview. I'd love to ask you a few questions if you see this. 

[GinoNiña 182]

can you give us  the link so we can give more appropriate comments😁

[denden 0]

Hi!! I know the post is 2020, we are 2024 now, and I have the same problem.

 

how did it go with your fiancè? please update us please

[TBoneTX 45,266]

The OP hasn't logged on here in 21 months, and the thread is old, so it's now locked to further comment.  The most recent poster is welcome to start a new thread.

 

Edited to add:  The OP's timeline shows that the visa was approved.

Edited September 24 by TBoneTX