Question regarding sponsors from K1

[Squidslinger 1]

So, we had to file for our K1 with sponsors due to my income not being enough. Have 2 great relatives willing to help.

 

I'm assuming for the AOS I should list one of them for the support requirements. I noticed on the docs that it needs to be one living in the same house with us. Which is possible. If I file with the sponsor listed, how will this affect the future interview/etc? Would it mean that both of us + the sponsor need to go in for the interview? Thanks for the help.

[SalishSea 18,072]

13 minutes ago, Squidslinger said:

So, we had to file for our K1 with sponsors due to my income not being enough. Have 2 great relatives willing to help.

 

I'm assuming for the AOS I should list one of them for the support requirements. I noticed on the docs that it needs to be one living in the same house with us. Which is possible. If I file with the sponsor listed, how will this affect the future interview/etc? Would it mean that both of us + the sponsor need to go in for the interview? Thanks for the help.

You are the only sponsor.  An eligible joint sponsor does not need to live in the same house with you, by any means.  Where are you seeing this?  

 

The joint sponsor will not be interviewed, but you both must submit all supporting documentation, including the new I-944.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

37 minutes ago, Squidslinger said:

So, we had to file for our K1 with sponsors due to my income not being enough. Have 2 great relatives willing to help.

 

I'm assuming for the AOS I should list one of them for the support requirements. I noticed on the docs that it needs to be one living in the same house with us. Which is possible. If I file with the sponsor listed, how will this affect the future interview/etc? Would it mean that both of us + the sponsor need to go in for the interview? Thanks for the help.

That is incorrect.  A joint sponsor simply needs to add the sponsored immigrant to their own household size.

[Squidslinger 1]

4 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

That is incorrect.  A joint sponsor simply needs to add the sponsored immigrant to their own household size.

So I would assume that would affect the tax filing for the following year as well?

 

I was seeing this on one of the updated forms. For the K1 we had 2 sponsors beside myself, the Embassy only took 1. Which is an aunt who doesn't live at this address. When I started to file out for her since it's the one the embassy took, I got to question which implied that she was part of this household. Which made me realize I couldn't use her again and would have to use the other sponsor that lives at the same address. I'm kind of in a transitional time as my company gets it's first product going and between jobs too so...how a lot of people here in Cali have to get by to survive unfortunately. Think there is at least a dozen houses nearby just packed with people, all renting rooms out. No one can afford the rent out here.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Squidslinger

[Ayrton 965]

7 hours ago, Squidslinger said:

So I would assume that would affect the tax filing for the following year as well?

 

I was seeing this on one of the updated forms. For the K1 we had 2 sponsors beside myself, the Embassy only took 1. Which is an aunt who doesn't live at this address. When I started to file out for her since it's the one the embassy took, I got to question which implied that she was part of this household. Which made me realize I couldn't use her again and would have to use the other sponsor that lives at the same address. I'm kind of in a transitional time as my company gets it's first product going and between jobs too so...how a lot of people here in Cali have to get by to survive unfortunately. Think there is at least a dozen houses nearby just packed with people, all renting rooms out. No one can afford the rent out here.

 

IRS has its rules for filing taxes and USCIS has its rules for the household size. Having someone in their household size on the 864 doesn't mean they're gonna add them as a dependent on their taxes.

 

You only need one sponsor that makes enough money. If the spouse doesn't make enough money, you get one joint sponsor. If the joint sponsor doesn't make enough money, there's no reason to have them, unless this person has a spouse and their money is gonna be used as well. So the joint sponsor signs a 864 and the spouse of the joint sponsor signs a 864a.

 

A joint sponsor doesn't need to live with you, by any means. They can live anywhere is the US. When you use the joint sponsor, the immigrant is added to their household size and not the opposite.

 

Joint sponsor doesn't go the interview. I don't know where you saw that. The interview is about the couple relationship. People use joint sponsor all the time. No problem with that.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

17 hours ago, Squidslinger said:

So I would assume that would affect the tax filing for the following year as well?

 

I was seeing this on one of the updated forms. For the K1 we had 2 sponsors beside myself, the Embassy only took 1. Which is an aunt who doesn't live at this address. When I started to file out for her since it's the one the embassy took, I got to question which implied that she was part of this household. Which made me realize I couldn't use her again and would have to use the other sponsor that lives at the same address. I'm kind of in a transitional time as my company gets it's first product going and between jobs too so...how a lot of people here in Cali have to get by to survive unfortunately. Think there is at least a dozen houses nearby just packed with people, all renting rooms out. No one can afford the rent out here.

Huh?  No relationship between sponsoring an immigrant and tax filing.

 

Household  size that includes the sponsored immigrant is only used to verify income sufficiency.

[Squidslinger 1]

19 hours ago, Ayrton said:

 

IRS has its rules for filing taxes and USCIS has its rules for the household size. Having someone in their household size on the 864 doesn't mean they're gonna add them as a dependent on their taxes.

 

You only need one sponsor that makes enough money. If the spouse doesn't make enough money, you get one joint sponsor. If the joint sponsor doesn't make enough money, there's no reason to have them, unless this person has a spouse and their money is gonna be used as well. So the joint sponsor signs a 864 and the spouse of the joint sponsor signs a 864a.

 

A joint sponsor doesn't need to live with you, by any means. They can live anywhere is the US. When you use the joint sponsor, the immigrant is added to their household size and not the opposite.

 

Joint sponsor doesn't go the interview. I don't know where you saw that. The interview is about the couple relationship. People use joint sponsor all the time. No problem with that.

So, form 864 would be for me to fill out and 864a would be for the sponsor? Or is that reverse?

[Ayrton 965]

3 hours ago, Squidslinger said:

So, form 864 would be for me to fill out and 864a would be for the sponsor? Or is that reverse?

Are you the USC spouse?

 

If so, you fill out a 864 for you, send tax transcript for latest year. Joint Sponsor fills out another 864, with their tax transcript. If the joint sponsor filed a joint tax return for the latest year, their spouse will fill out a 864a.

[Squidslinger 1]

9 hours ago, Ayrton said:

Are you the USC spouse?

 

If so, you fill out a 864 for you, send tax transcript for latest year. Joint Sponsor fills out another 864, with their tax transcript. If the joint sponsor filed a joint tax return for the latest year, their spouse will fill out a 864a.

USC? Not sure what that is.

 

The sponsors on our K1 are widows so, they wouldn't need an 864a right? From what you said, I should fill out an 864 and then a sponsor should as well.

[Just Paul 4,595]

5 minutes ago, Squidslinger said:

USC? Not sure what that is.

US Citizens.   You probably need to review the guides and vocabulary.

[Squidslinger 1]

6 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

US Citizens.   You probably need to review the guides and vocabulary.

Ah right. I've been through the guides. Didn't think about that term.

 

So yes I am the USC and my sponsors are all USC as well. So then I'm filing 2 864s, one for myself and one for 1 of my sponsors. I won't need to do the 864a because of a lack of a spouse on the sponsors, right?

 

 

[Just Paul 4,595]

On 5/23/2020 at 4:03 PM, Squidslinger said:

I'm assuming for the AOS I should list one of them for the support requirements.

 

I-864 at AOS you file one I-184 and the Joint Sponsor files one.  The joint sponsor must meet the poverty level for 125% of I-864p for the sponsor, the immigrant and any of the sponsors dependents.

 

Does the joint sponsor realize they are signing a contract with the US Government that states they are sponsoring the immigrant into perpetuity or until 40 quarters of social security, or until becomes a citizen, leaves or die?

[Squidslinger 1]

6 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

 

I-864 at AOS you file one I-184 and the Joint Sponsor files one.  The joint sponsor must meet the poverty level for 125% of I-864p for the sponsor, the immigrant and any of the sponsors dependents.

 

Does the joint sponsor realize they are signing a contract with the US Government that states they are sponsoring the immigrant into perpetuity or until 40 quarters of social security, or until becomes a citizen, leaves or die?

Yep, both my sponsors were made aware of that at the K1 phase.

[Just Paul 4,595]

5 minutes ago, Squidslinger said:

Yep, both my sponsors were made aware of that at the K1 phase.

you can only have 1 unless they are married.

[Squidslinger 1]

46 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

you can only have 1 unless they are married.

Yeah, we made the embassy aware and provided the paperwork. They looked at it and accepted the best one we had.