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Living Abroad, Proving Domicile in US/intent to move back

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Chile
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IR-1 Visa here, just made it to the NVC stage.

 

I've lived in Chile since 2011 and have been waiting for my wife's visa to be approved before moving to the states. I obviously am going to be moving back to the states with my wife and daughter, but I have to prove that to the NVC.

 

I'm writing a letter explaining my situation and including the following information. They all show the same address, where we intend on living.

 

  • US Bank account statement
  • US credit card statement
  • LLC formed in 2020 in my name
  • Proof that I've been applying for jobs (emails and job board confirmations)
  • Latest federal tax return

 

Will this be enough? Should I include something else?

 

I don't have a recent voting record, US property or an unexpired driving licence. My latest state taxes were filed for 2018 in a different state than we're planning on moving (where mother lived, moving to where father is). That is why I'm not including my state taxes.

 

I have to use a joint sponsor because I only have foreign income that will stop once I quit my job and move to the states.

USCIS Stage:

  • Nov 12 2019: NOA1 (NSC)
  • Dec 17 2019: I-129f Received
  • May 15 2020: I-130 Approved!

NVC Stage:

  • May 16 2020: Case Created
  • May 16 2020: Fees Paid
  • May 22 2020: Sent IV & AOS Packages
  • May 29 2020: Request for more documents (proof of assets)
  • May 30 2020: Resubmitted NVC documents
  • June 15, 2020: DQ'd! 
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Have you filed tax returns every year? It doesn’t prove domicile but I just wanted to put that out there as they will want to see you have been maintaining your obligations as a USC (assuming you made over the filing threshold).

 

For domicile, what will your living arrangements be? Have you contacted apartment rental agents or realtors about properties? If you have children have you contacted schools? You can include those searches/communications as evidence of intending to establish domicile. It might even be easier for you to return before her interview so that at the interview she can confirm that you are back in the USA. A few months of separation never killed anyone. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Chile
Timeline

Thanks for the reply! Yes, I've filed taxes for all the years I've lived here, unfortunately I can't find a copy of my 2017 taxes which means I'd have to ask for transcripts through the mail. The IRS online interface doesn't work for me.

 

As for domicile, we're going to be living with a parent of mine until I get a job in the US, this address is also my permanent address. Unless I find a job before we move there then I'd fly out before my wife and rent a place, etc. I could conceivably contact a realtor and look for rentals, not sure if that'll help. The idea is that during the NVC stage I find a job. My daughter is too young to go to school.

USCIS Stage:

  • Nov 12 2019: NOA1 (NSC)
  • Dec 17 2019: I-129f Received
  • May 15 2020: I-130 Approved!

NVC Stage:

  • May 16 2020: Case Created
  • May 16 2020: Fees Paid
  • May 22 2020: Sent IV & AOS Packages
  • May 29 2020: Request for more documents (proof of assets)
  • May 30 2020: Resubmitted NVC documents
  • June 15, 2020: DQ'd! 
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9 minutes ago, jerval said:

Thanks for the reply! Yes, I've filed taxes for all the years I've lived here, unfortunately I can't find a copy of my 2017 taxes which means I'd have to ask for transcripts through the mail. The IRS online interface doesn't work for me.

 

As for domicile, we're going to be living with a parent of mine until I get a job in the US, this address is also my permanent address. Unless I find a job before we move there then I'd fly out before my wife and rent a place, etc. I could conceivably contact a realtor and look for rentals, not sure if that'll help. The idea is that during the NVC stage I find a job. My daughter is too young to go to school.

We needed to show our intent to re-establish domicile too.   Using email copies of conversation about housing and finding employers is fine.  Having a conditional job offer is even better.  You have keep up on the tax returns so that is good. 

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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On 5/21/2020 at 5:07 PM, Paul & Mary said:

We needed to show our intent to re-establish domicile too.

"too" is incorrect. if you prove that you are domiciled in US then by definition you can't re establish something you aready are.
 

If you prove your stay abroad is temporary in nature and you are domiciled in US then you don't need to prove you are going back anytime soon.

 

if you can't prove domicile by showing your stay abroad is temporary, then the requirement can be met by proving intention to reestablish domicile in US by no later than intending immigrant's admission to US.

 

Also, some people erroneously think that by "going back to US before or together with" intending immigrant satisfies domicile or intent to reestablish domicile. The fact is nowhere does it say that setting foot on US soil equals domicile, because that is not what domicile is about. 
 

In other words: I often see comments on the forum that tell people to make sure USC spouse living abroad goes back to US before or together with intending immigrant. IMO That is not correct advise. If USC living abroad (temporarily) proves (for Aos app purposes) he/she is still domiciled in US, then intending immigrant can enter US regardless where USC spouse is and when is coming back to US.

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