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A thoughtful and perhaps prescient piece.  Comments?

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Media Must Report Truth Of Anti-Trump Spy Operation Before It's Too Late For Them

by Mollie Hemingway - May 17, 2020

 

As new details emerge about the Obama administration's broad spying-and-leaking campaign against the incoming Trump administration, reporters have a choice to make about whether to cover this story honestly, at long last.  There is a brief window of time afforded the media to get the story right. They should take advantage of it.  [...]

 

Continues here: https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/17/media-must-report-truth-of-anti-trump-spy-operation-before-its-too-late-for-them/  

 

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Rare garbage from Mollie. The media is a complicit partner in Russiagate/Spygate/Obamagate, whatever people want to call it. It's already too late.

 

Much like the way a criminal mindset comes at the moment they commit the crime, the time frame this occurred for the media was in 2016-2017, mostly in 2016, when the point-of-no-return decisions were made. It's done. 

 

The political industry tends to be highly predictable like in many other industries in the sense that they attempt to be self-perpetuating, so they're much softer on themselves than on others, mainly because they know if there's a true reckoning it puts their own job at risk. So they go soft, do what Mollie just did, or even worse, bs people like Ben Shapiro does with his Hanlon's Razor / "These people aren't malicious they're just dumb!" methodology. 

 

Don't vouch for them to come around, hope they reap the true consequences. The US knows more than most countries via rotten foreign policy how this sort of rapid destabilization is a nation-wrecker, US intelligence turned that into an art abroad, and now they've helped turn it inward. 

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Despite the headline, I really doubt Mollie H. Thinks any of these biased media stalwarts will actually make any changes.  Sure there may be a few outliers, but the majority of the “award winning” leftist journalists are simply going to pick up the deflection banner from the Democrats.

 

 

Many of our supposedly smart media elites are dinosaurs who are completely unaware of the asteroid headed right to them. Instead, they are doing their part in an all-hands-on-deck effort to continue pushing out Democratic talking points that got them into the mess. This week, that meant they regurgitated the Democratic claim that the Obama administration’s spying and leaking was “normal” and that to be concerned about it is nothing more than a “distraction.”

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Here is an example of a leftist journalist doubling down and taking the major political deflection strategy by the DNC and Obama Alumni association to the extreme.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/5/16/21258788/obamagate-trump-flynn-bannon-flood-the-zone

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8 hours ago, Dashinka said:

example of a leftist journalist

I saw that, too.  He writes in a truly mature fashion, and reasons that "this is bull because we think it is!"

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19 hours ago, Dashinka said:

I really doubt Mollie H.

In fact, you and Burnt are closer than she made it.  For ages, Rush (for one) has said that the media and the Democrat party are one and the same.  Furthermore, it's not entirely apparent which one is pulling the other one's strings.

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4 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

In fact, you and Burnt are closer than she made it.  For ages, Rush (for one) has said that the media and the Democrat party are one and the same.  Furthermore, it's not entirely apparent which one is pulling the other one's strings.

That certainly seems to be the case with at least some of the elite leftist media types.  The GOP folks in DC always seem to think they can change that mentality by playing up to those media elite (John McCain, Mittens, etc.,), but they never learn.

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14 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

In fact, you and Burnt are closer than she made it.  For ages, Rush (for one) has said that the media and the Democrat party are one and the same.  Furthermore, it's not entirely apparent which one is pulling the other one's strings.

In one of my long diatribes shortly after I registered this account (which I'm sure no one read) I eluded to the fact that Dems and Republicans, the media, bureaus, parties, etc. are all overwhelmingly connected. In general political topics I put things in a D/R, left/right context because this is precisely the two dimensional way people think, so it makes little sense to describe things in a way that is beyond people.. when I do, no one reads it.. they don't get it, or don't have the attention span for it. I can't blame them a lot in that regards because I'm the same way.. we just learn when we learn, and some never do.

 

In the end, what people, the public, fail to understand that this connected elite put significant attention into understanding them (whether as a whole or by segmenting them as done in the business world), so they can psychologically screw with them. Their end goal is to perpetuate the way they do things, and predictability requires a controlled environment, something extremely difficult when talking about the complexities of human thought.

 

It's precisely why, election season after election season, we've had incumbents despite rock bottom approval, something that makes zero fricken sense. It's become a psychological form of learned helplessness, people have become so weak-minded they psych themselves out into avoiding necessary conflict, simply adapt to how others make things for them despite the fact that the populace here is supposed to be the check against them. This weak behavior easily places those with stronger wills and power in a position to to precisely what they are doing now. And why should they ever stop? The populace has no desire for change, especially change that forces them to actually criticize themselves, above all. They just want to be fed lip service.

 

Overall, this political corruption is an extension of the populace, one that has rotted to the core. At very least the US has a constitution to slow things down but you see precisely how fast it can evaporate and how meaningless it can be when people keel over. 

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Anyways, why this one issue is so important, focusing a little, is because of all the toes Flynn was going to, and still has a very high chance, of stepping on. He was already involving himself in things this establishment either coveted for themselves, and/or things that put their predictable way of doing things in jeopardy. When people like Yovanovich and co came before Congress, they really cemented this for me, and you can tell with the language they used, that their method of foreign policy must be utilized and that any elected representative who they're supposed to be conducting policy around, actually serves at their behest, when reality is it should be vice versa. This is meritocracy at play.

 

Sometimes certain people want to clean house, and those on the outside of these connected interests don't really understand the great depth of relationships involved in "the swamp", along with how cemented it's become (took time for these changes to become normative), so they're more apt to focus on one thing, stepping on a trap that hits numerous people, which is why you had so many people in various areas of "the swamp" gladly trying to sink Flynn. In this meritocratic environment, he's a threat to their comfy way of doing things, and the last thing these people want is to have to learn to code... as in, have to adapt. The more certain people are given their way, the more they fight it, and because they have no alternative, you see deranged actions like this judge. Because their entire identity is based on this system, there becomes a high risk of volatility if one makes changes to it. They don't see a normal life without the power, influence, etc. that they have, they've based their life around this cancerous meritocratic idea.

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3 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

In one of my long diatribes shortly after I registered this account (which I'm sure no one read) I eluded to the fact that Dems and Republicans,

that's probably why no one noticed it, it got away.

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