Coronavirus: How 'overreaction' made Vietnam a virus success

[Orangesapples 1,954]

Just now, Burnt Reynolds said:

"US isn't free.. look, people use freedoms to break laws! Classic non-freedom!"

 

"See, foreign terrorists being held in Guantanamo is proof that the Americans have no freedoms!"

 

 

 

Yes? 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

6 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

The various state governors are under no obligation to listen to the federal government when dealing with public health emergencies.  All state governments and many large cities and counties have their own public health experts that they use for these type of decisions.  As you see, the CDC only puts out guidelines, or recommendations, but no one has to follow these.  I am not defending Trump here, just putting the responsibility where it lies.  The feds could have done much better with respect to strategic reserves, and potentially implemented the defense production act sooner, but they still have to rely on the various governors for accurate accounts of their needs.  I do find it funny how you use the term “Dear Leader” when you are suggesting that President Trump should have acted more like the rotund leader of the DPRK.  Which is it?  

Ugh, Trump didn't make himself dictator like the left declared he would (and now, should).. sheer incompetence!

[Orangesapples 1,954]

2 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Ugh, Trump didn't make himself dictator like the left declared he would (and now, should).. sheer incompetence!

Are you saying the man who thought (sarcastically?) you can inject disinfectant and UV light is competent? Entertaining, yes. 

Edited May 15, 2020 by Orangesapples

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 minute ago, Orangesapples said:

Are you saying the man who's though you can inject disinfectant and UV light is competent? Entertaining, yes. 

Yes.

 

Proof of Trump injecting UV light:

 

You can see how Trump knew about the virus as early as 2017. Here he is, injecting UV light into his finger and his eyes killing viruses. His incompetence has killed untold people, even caused those who jumped to their deaths in despair over losing their livelihood from lockdowns to die from the virus! Orange man needs to go.

 

#Impeach

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

Sorry, I don't think that quarantining people in the comfort of their own home for a few weeks is oppression.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  But at a minimum, it's sheer ignorance.

 

Know what you will NEVER find in a leper colony?  People without leprosy.  Why?  Because never in history did healthy people get quarantined.  Quarantine is for SICK people.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Yes.

 

Proof of Trump injecting UV light:

 

 

You can see how Trump knew about the virus as early as 2017. Here he is, injecting UV light into his finger and his eyes killing viruses. His incompetence has killed untold people, even caused those who jumped to their deaths in despair over losing their livelihood from lockdowns to die from the virus! Orange man needs to go.

 

#Impeach

The idiocy is rampant, eh?

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

7 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

The idiocy is rampant, eh?

Whatever we call it, it's orange man bad, for everything. And their hope is to overwhelm people with enough (badly) contrived negativity about Trump that they just capitulate.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  But at a minimum, it's sheer ignorance.

 

Know what you will NEVER find in a leper colony?  People without leprosy.  Why?  Because never in history did healthy people get quarantined.  Quarantine is for SICK people.

I see you know your facts. 

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/index.html

 

• Isolation separates sick people with a contagious disease from people who are not sick.
• Quarantine separates and restricts the movement of people who were exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become sick.

 

Sick people isolate, healthy people quarantine. 

 

[TBoneTX 46,123]

10 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

Nearly 1 in 100 people in the US is currently behind bars

But the jails were emptied so that the convicted criminals wouldn't catch the virus.

 

Now please calculate how many law-abiding citizens remain imprisoned in "the comfort of" their own homes by tyrannical governors.

[Ban Hammer 13,551]

7 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Whatever we call it, it's orange man bad, for everything. And their hope is to overwhelm people with enough (badly) contrived negativity about Trump that they just capitulate.

[Dashinka 24,794]

6 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

I see you know your facts. 

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/index.html

 

• Isolation separates sick people with a contagious disease from people who are not sick.
• Quarantine separates and restricts the movement of people who were exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become sick.

 

Sick people isolate, healthy people quarantine. 

 

So how do you explain the various governor’s actions that kept people who were not exposed needing to stay at home?

[Ban Hammer 13,551]

7 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

• Quarantine separates and restricts the movement of people who were exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become sick.

 

Sick people isolate, healthy people quarantine. 

 

yet we're quarantining people that haven't been exposed..........

[90DayFinancier 910]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So how do you explain the various governor’s actions that kept people who were not exposed needing to stay at home?

And you know who was exposed how?

 

[90DayFinancier 910]

3 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

yet we're quarantining people that haven't been exposed..........

Show me a "quarantine" order for Covid-19. They exist, doctors quarantine senior housing, prisons, facilities all the time. Flu, Norovirus...all of these facilities have protocols in place to protect once the doctor issues the order. Doctors order quarantining.

 

Stay at home? You can stay in your boat, your cabin, your RV, you just need to limit contact. That is not a quarantine, but if you only have an apt, it essentially remains the same.

 

Is it a quarantine or just practical measures to separate and not get yourself and others sick?

Because language matters to some.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So how do you explain the various governor’s actions that kept people who were not exposed needing to stay at home?

Stay at home is not quarantine. You're still allowed to go to the grocery store and out for a walk or you go to work if you're essential. Shelter in place/stay at home orders try to limit social contacts and reduce R0. Quarantine means that you literally stay home/in a hospital room and don't leave even for a grocery store trip or for a walk. 

 

Is this explanation clear? 

Edited May 16, 2020 by Orangesapples