Trudeau announces ban on assault-style weapons in Canada

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Cant tell if you are being sarcastic  but there are loads of deer processing places in my area. I would assume all hunting areas have them.

 

Just for the record I dont hunt. I get no joy out of watching things suffer. I realize its important  and I know I eat meat that is processed inhumanely,  just personally dont have the disposition for it.

 

   It's been about 30 years since I've been hunting. I used to go with the old man and his buddy just in case they actually got one and needed help lifting. They used to have to lift the carcass onto the truck and take it to some guy who did the butchering. 

[NikLR 13,227]

11 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Just for the record I dont hunt. I get no joy out of watching things suffer. I realize its important  and I know I eat meat that is processed inhumanely,  just personally dont have the disposition for it.

I feel that while a bow is sufficient for hunting, I would prefer a rifle than the poor animal running off and dying slowly.  Either way being accurate is very important. But I'm not keen on venison anyhow. We had a bunch from my FIL but it was really gamey. 

So targets are all I aim at. 

[TBoneTX 45,303]

1 hour ago, NikLR said:

I'm not keen on venison

Oh, deer...

[NikLR 13,227]

Okay this is long and from facebook so its not an article. If it needs to be removed please do but its another opinion on the OTHER side of the fence with very good points!  I cant link to facebook but its from a Kevin Scott and both my brother and BIL shared it.  If you guys want the link I can provide with mod permission. Due to length I put it in a spoiler.

- Firstly. Please share! We need to educate Canadians. Secondly, I am overwhelmed by the support I have received. I didn’t expect this to get this big this fast. As such I can’t accept friend requests. I’ll try my best to respond to messages. I am who I say I am. Several people have questioned me. I assure you they were met with certificates and qualifications, but if you doubt me I will be happy to verify it. Be kind and be safe. 

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Let me lay this out for you and anyone else who also likely isn’t as informed as they would like to be. 

Firstly, let me say this. I’ve been a firearms instructor for 14 years, a police officer and supervisor for 8. A correctional officer for 6 and an RCMP firearms verification expert since 2012. Part of being a firearms verification expert means it’s my job to be able to testify to court what classification different firearms are, and their points of origin and import. 

With that being said I will start with this. Nothing on that list, or in a Canada is an “assault weapon” or a “military grade firearm”. All military firearms have been outright banned in Canada since 1979. Automatic firearms are prohibited in Canada. The rifles on that list are hunting and sporting rifles. 

Trudeau is blatantly lying and misleading Canadians by using their lack of knowledge on the subject. Firstly, he bypassed our democratic process with is outrageous and every Canadian should be appalled. Secondly he is dancing on the graves of all those victims in NS. The shooter used a rifle obtained in the US and a pistol stolen from a Cst killed in cold blood. The victims and their families deserve better. Nothing he did was legal, he wasn’t even a firearms license holder and had previously been banned from owning firearms after a common assault (disclaimer - those conditions had expired). 

Canadians are ridiculously strict with gun laws. Nothing in this act will help public safety in the slightest. All centre fire rifles in Canada are limited to 5 rounds. They cannot be  converted to be automatic. 

This will cost Canadians a half billion dollars and have zero effect on public safety. It will hurt public safety as it distracts money and attention from real issues. 

The borders are weak as hell. I would say I handled more American firearms then Canadian ones. Personally I have seized more firearms then most people have ever seen in real life. The border is the biggest problem. 

Secondly, the liberals banned carding and severely limited police powers to be proactive against gangs. The result was a 48% increase in shootings and a 98% increase in the number of people shot in the GTA. 

Thirdly, the liberal government passed bill C75 which lowered sentences on violent crime and terrorism. It reduced bail considerations. Increased bail and promoted early release of offenders.

The liberals have hurt community safety far worse then we can likely repair. 

Chris Lewis OPP commissioner (Ret) does not support this. 

The association of chiefs of police do not support this. 

Every police officer is screaming at this waste of money that will not help anything. 

My AR 15 holds 5 .223 rounds. My deer rifle holds 5 30-06 rounds. It’s the most commonly used deer rifle in North America. Use common sense and tell me what’s more dangerous. 

I think it’s also important that people understand how licensing works. 

When you first decide you want your Possession and acquisition license (PAL) you find a licensed firearm instructor and tester. You will learn about different types of firearms, ammunition, safe handling, storage and transportation. The hunter safety course required for hunting is another course and exam on top of this. For the firearms portion only you will spend about $400 and two 8 hr training days. Followed by a lengthy exam requiring a 80% pass mark. 

You then submit your application with proof of your testing. A picture, and roughly the same information you submit on your passport. Two guarantors etc. But, if you have a former spouse or partner...hope you’re in good standing. You will need their consent and the Chief Firearms Office (CFO) will contact them. You will wait about 6-12 months while they do background checks and local police records checks as well as calling the two character references you provided. 

Then eventually your card will come in the mail at a cost of $80. Now, you legally can purchase ammunition and a firearm. But, only Non-Restricted firearms such as shotguns and hunting rifles. They must be stored separate from ammunition, out of site and locked. Either with a disabling lock, or in a locked container that is hard to break into. They can only be loaded in a place where they can be legally discharged. Ie the woods far away from people and houses. 

Now, if you want a pistol or sporting rifle you need a restricted possession and acquisition license (RPAL). Back to the classroom, another 8hrs and $400. Another exam another $80 and an application the same as the first. You will wait 6-12 months again. Now, you have your license? Great! You can’t purchase a restricted firearms yet though. 

Before you can do that you’ll need to be a member of a licensed range. Licensed ranges are over seen by the CFO to make sure they meet very stringent safety measures. So here in kingston we have one club, with a 2-3 year waiting list. So you apply and wait. Eventually luckily you get a spot. You pay your $300 annual fee, but you’re not shooting yet. First, another 8 hour safety course and then 4 probationary visits with a range officer. 

Finally, you’re a member. Now you can purchase a pistol or sporting rifle. So you go to the store and chose one. You pay, now you wait. If you’re lucky 2-3 weeks maybe, sometimes 6-10 while the CFO approves it. 

Oh, did I mention all firearms owners are checked on The Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) daily?. 

So finally the day comes. You pick up your pistol or rifle. You’re ready to go! Nope, sorry. You’ll need two locks. A disabling lock and a hard container that locks. Restricted firearms are always locked twice. So we’re on our way right? No, not yet. Now you will need to contact the CFO wait on hold for 35-45 mins and request an Authorization to Transport (ATT). This is a piece of paper they will email you with your current address and your home address permitting you to transport your new firearm. You’re not allowed to stray. That would result in a ten year sentence and lifetime ban. 

Once your home your pistol or rifle is stored separate from ammo and locked twice. It may only be transported to and from your licensed range with your ATT. It may only be discharged at your range. 

At anytime the police on behalf of CFO  or CFO may conduct a warrantless search of your home if there is a concern for safety or to verify proper compliance if you’re a collector. 

At any time any person can phone the CFO or local police with a safety concern about you and you will lose your firearms. It is now up to you, to pay to defend yourself. 

That is the just of the firearms licensing requirements in Canada. 

Believe me, gun owners are afraid of sneezing as we can lose them so easily after going through so many hurdles to have them.

[Ban Hammer 13,343]

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

5 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

The ban was more theater to misdirect from this fact.

 

The Canadian media also made sure to let us know that it was not in fact, a response to the shooting (because the bans wouldn't have stopped this shooting), but Trudeau had been planning it for a while!

 

Of course, such a ban was really only made public as another misdirection, when Trudeau was embroiled in his blackface controversy.

 

It's a pretty consistent methodology.

Edited May 4, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds